doitny Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 hours ago, jetstream23 said: We all know about JD and his love of saving money. Drafting AVT and Moore probably lets him cut both Alex Lewis and Jamison Crowder, saving what, $20 million? i would not cut Crowder unless he drafts a WR at 34. i like that were 4 deep there after last season. plus we need to see if Mims can stay on the field or if his is going to be injury prone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, doitny said: i would not cut Crowder unless he drafts a WR at 34. i like that were 4 deep there after last season. plus we need to see if Mims can stay on the field or if his is going to be injury prone. Crowder would be traded. I think he will be at some point day 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 hours ago, IndianaJet said: What you're missing here is that this FO is not building a team for "success" in 2021....they're building for 2022 and on. 4 rookies starting on one side of the ball this year, means 4 more vets starting on that side of the ball in 2022, when the Jets are in a better position to compete for the playoffs. i get your point but if we keep drafting really good OL this year there all going to have to get paid at the same time. this line could go from really good or great to avg in a year. if your think for the future you have to keep that into your considerations. cant have all our money tied up in the line. i know you guys hate to hear this but the OL doesn't have to ALL be all-pros. and the best teams arent. great we got our 2 stud lineman. we can pay 2 big money guys on the line. but now draft some studs at other positions. otherwise we will lose some of these OL in a few years and basically just drafted then for another team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: True, but the Jets did not know this and could just as easily been sitting at 23 having watched the last olineman they wanted off the board. Also they liked AVT much more than the others by the sounds of it. Yeah unless we took someone who was a quasi-reach, I'm not big on the "he'd have been there anyway" argument. Also as much as we all love having more picks, lofty optimism aside we just aren't and weren't starting 7 rookies. They had a big stiffy for AVT and they didn't f*** around with it & potentially lose the guy they wanted. I don't think they'd have been in a bad situation either way even if there was a run in the late teens & early 20s: we had a zillion picks and OL was at least a couple rounds deep this year, through our #34 pick and even through wherever 34 traded down to. But if OL is the position where the GM is "if anything, I'm an expert in this," and he feels so strongly about this one player being so special and more than a nominal upgrade, then I'm ok with it. FFS the one thing this team isn't lacking is having enough draft picks this year (never mind doubling up in rounds 1 & 2 next year, too). Now, if AVT isn't all that, and Darrishaw (or whomever) is the next Orlando Pace + Walter Jones HOF linemen we passed on, then I'll see to it he's going to have Sperm on his face. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Morrissey said: Jags get 34 Jets get 45, 65 Raiders get 34 Jets get 48, 79, 121 KC trades both their 2nds to move up for jok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jetstream23 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 5 hours ago, Lith said: So, given the uncertainty of scouting this year's draft, how do you think that impacts what we do with 34. DO we stay put and take a player we feel really good about, since the mid to late round picks have less value than year's past. Or do we trade out of 34 and add a couple more "lottery tickets" and hope one of them is a winner. I keep waffling on this, but given how the board has fallen, I think a trade back of 10-12 slots makes the most sense. Yup. I think they probably have great info on maybe 100-150 players, then it drops. I also don’t see the Jets taking anyone who didn’t play in 2020. There’s some “recency bias” but it matters. Swing for the fences later in Round 5 if you want, but not in the first 3-4 rounds. I have no problem trading down from 34 into the 40’s if it’s for another pick in say the top 100. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 hours ago, doitny said: i would not cut Crowder unless he drafts a WR at 34. i like that were 4 deep there after last season. plus we need to see if Mims can stay on the field or if his is going to be injury prone. Same here. I like Crowder even if we draft a WR. Surrounding the rookie QB with savvy, veteran pass catchers like Crowder is important. I’m just saying what I think JD might do. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 If we draft a WR early in round 2 JD should look to trade Crowder + a 4 to pick up a 3rd rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 4 hours ago, choon328 said: Crowder would be traded. I think he will be at some point day 3 As he should be. This draft is loaded with slot WRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzyJet Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 15 hours ago, ID. said: Count me in the JOK crew. Says the Jets and Jeff Ulbrich are the best fit for him @14:22 JOK is to Defense what Pitts is to Offense. Not saying HOF caliber. But what I am saying is that he's a weapon/ tool/ matchup nightmare. I'm firmly on the JOKer train. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 39 minutes ago, Lith said: They almost drafted a CB over Etienne. This is a lock CB or safety. The Jets have the first pick today and should do well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Trade back makes so much sense after giving up what we did to go get Vera Tucker. 34 is a great spot to be in. Pleny of time to weigh opporutnities and get teams bidding against each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzyJet Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lith said: Trade back makes so much sense after giving up what we did to go get Vera Tucker. 34 is a great spot to be in. Plenty of time to weigh opportunities and get teams bidding against each other. I could be talked into a trade back if we're blown away in this sellers market type situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ken Schroy Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Very exciting. JD is sitting there and letting the draft/offers come to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, Ken Schroy said: Very exciting. JD is sitting there and letting the draft/offers come to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Round 2 is going to be interesting tonight. The 2 top RB's irrelevant position in the NFL are gone. Who will be the 3rd RB chosen and by who. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 58 minutes ago, Marshmello said: Owusu-Koramoah is exactly that guy you'll be watching for years wondering why we didn't draft him. The other choices are very uninspiring. Especially Campbell who would be a serious reach there IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I do not want to get rid of crowder, he is one of the few 'help the Qb' players on this team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcJet Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Just take JOK and lock in an outstanding draft. We don't need no stinking 3rd rounder this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I do not want to get rid of crowder, he is one of the few 'help the Qb' players on this team. He's great. I was all for keeping him if Sam was staying. But now... I'd take Jenkins and then, if possible, trade a 2022 1st n 3rd to get another early 2nd to get Moore. Cut Crowder and save $10mil. Business is business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I do not want to get rid of crowder, he is one of the few 'help the Qb' players on this team. If that’s the case then we cannot draft a receiver in the second round. Can’t use this high a pick for WR5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, dcJet said: Just take JOK and lock in an outstanding draft. We don't need no stinking 3rd rounder this year. He reminds me a lot of Tyrann Mathieu the Honey Badger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Integrity28 said: As he should be. This draft is loaded with slot WRs. Trading the most proven offensive guy on the team to take a chance on unproven 3rd round guys would be an absolute f*cking disaster with a rookie QB. So yeah, fully expected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: Trading the most proven offensive guy on the team to take a chance on unproven 3rd round guys would be an absolute f*cking disaster with a rookie QB. So yeah, fully expected. You guys vastly overrate crowder. He’s a jag. Roster has been so bad, jag becomes over valued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jago Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 if its more OL we need a C now.especially with rookie qb.a-stay for:jok lbCreed cb-move back 5-10ileafu the syracuse cbmoore/marshall wrfreiemuth tejavonte rbassorted G’sif b- package late scrub picksand get another 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, dcJet said: Just take JOK and lock in an outstanding draft. We don't need no stinking 3rd rounder this year. Or just take JOK at 34. Package 107 and 146 to move back into the third round, to take Michael Carter. If Elijah Moore falls into the 40s, use a future pick to take him. Walk away with Wilson/Vera Tucker/Owusu Koromoah/Moore/Carter and still have picks in the 4th/5th/6th 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: You guys vastly overrate crowder. He’s a jag. Roster has been so bad, jag becomes over valued. He is absolutely not a JAG. Ludicrous notion. He’s consistently productive in some of the worst situations in football. It would be such a disaster to cut him. To take Wilson’s safety net away, his most reliable option while also sending the message that good play isn’t rewarded. Garbage take. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: He is absolutely not a JAG. Ludicrous notion. He’s consistently productive in some of the worst situations in football. It would be such a disaster to cut him. To take Wilson’s safety net away, his most reliable option while also sending the message that good play isn’t rewarded. Garbage take. Repped for going over the top. Im not wrong though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 26 minutes ago, kdels62 said: If that’s the case then we cannot draft a receiver in the second round. Can’t use this high a pick for WR5. Maybe so, I want to see corey davis play to make sure he is not another perriman, mims is still pretty unproven. Keelan what his face is unknown as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 28 minutes ago, Mike135 said: He's great. I was all for keeping him if Sam was staying. But now... I'd take Jenkins and then, if possible, trade a 2022 1st n 3rd to get another early 2nd to get Moore. Cut Crowder and save $10mil. Business is business. Wait, you'd want to keep Crowder if we had kept Darnold, but not for our new rookie QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I feel the pick has to be between The ND KOW, The NC RB, or Jenkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 NFL Network discussing NY Jets picking RB JoVante Williams at 34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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