#90 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Question: Can you name the Jets current starting LB group? YEEEEECH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maxman Posted May 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 @T0mShane is round 4 a good round for Cox? Let me know what you think. 1 1 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, Maxman said: @T0mShane is round 4 a good round for Cox? Let me know what you think. Yeah Tom let us know what you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Yeah Tom let us know what you think? He follows college pretty closely, so I am curious. Not sure if round 4 or 5 is better but he will chime in I am sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I’m on board. He’s a good OLB fit for this 4-3 scheme where LBs play off the LOS and emphasize pass coverage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted May 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Maxman said: @T0mShane is round 4 a good round for Cox? Let me know what you think. 3 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: Yeah Tom let us know what you think? Look at @Patriot Killa pretending not to know the right time to take Cox. Please. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Taking Cox too early can definitely be a problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdub03 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Do we need Cox? We can ask my wife, but I think the answer will be no. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Maxman said: @T0mShane is round 4 a good round for Cox? Let me know what you think. Depends what you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Carter or Gainwell. We are so bad at RB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: Taking Cox too early can definitely be a problem. You beenchatting with my girl???? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I don’t know why we’re neglecting the RB position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Cox would be good for deep depth 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I think Cox is too big. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, Ghost said: I don’t know why we’re neglecting the RB position. Because we have 4 of them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Yes. He’s a great coverage LB. I’m shocked he’s still available. He’s a day two player who’s only available because of his age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: Because we have 4 of them? We have 4 running backs? Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Had Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: Because we have 4 of them? 4 cox...no way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 7 hours ago, Maxman said: @T0mShane is round 4 a good round for Cox? Let me know what you think. Good person to ask, expert in undersized Cox, errr, LB'ers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauderdale jet Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Draft carter - the kid has insane moves and can catch. Look at his tape if you haven’t yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 At my age, if Cox doesn't come equipped with say, little blue pills, I'm screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Is Cox a deep threat? Asking for a friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smashmouth Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 2 hours ago, FidelioJet said: I think Cox is too big. If you have elite speed and good tackling ability which Cox has both why are you concerned with size ? hes only 240 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Maxman said: He follows college pretty closely, so I am curious. Not sure if round 4 or 5 is better but he will chime in I am sure. You would think round seven, the bigger the better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: If you have elite speed and good tackling ability which Cox has both why are you concerned with size ? hes only 240 I was making a very bad, regrettable joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I was making a very bad, regrettable joke. It was a bit flaccid. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I know his name is spelled with an “X” but it kinda sounds like “cks” which makes it sound like you guys are talking about penises, LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 The last time we had Cox at LB it worked out OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 We should trade back the value is in the 12th round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 10 hours ago, Maxman said: @T0mShane is round 4 a good round for Cox? Let me know what you think. Only issue is he has a shoulder injury that some have said is unfixable. Lets just take RB Carter or Gainwell with our 1st 4th round pick. The priority is the O and some of these LB/CBs left are probably no better then many of the players we already have on the roster. Plus after the moves yesterday Jets can cut WR Crowder and OL Smith and use that money to get a few LBs and CBs still on FA market. Then we can use our remaining 5 picks on both CB/LB/Edge and maybe another OL and TE. For K we should just take an UDFA nd not waste a draft pick there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 3 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: Because we have 4 of them? 4 Cox? Impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Ghost said: I don’t know why we’re neglecting the RB position. Because the history of the Shanahan offense (Mike & Kyle) is you don’t need high profile “names” to have a successful run game. With 6 picks today I think 1 will be used on a RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Michael Carter NFL Draft profile: Scouting report, Fantasy Football outlook, pro day results, 40-yard dash While Carter may not profile as an every-down back, his time at UNC suggests he can be a key contributor By Dave Richard Apr 29, 2021 at 6:52 pm ET6 min read A three-star prospect as rated by 247Sports, Michael Carter posted 3,345 all-purpose yards with 2,536 coming on the ground and an astounding 45 total touchdowns as a senior at Navarre High School just outside of Pensacola, Fla. Not bad for a kid coming off a torn PCL and LCL in his right knee the year prior. Named the USA Today Florida Offensive Player of the Year, Carter was recruited by Florida, Tennessee, Louisville and Mississippi State but ultimately went to North Carolina. There, Carter was part of a multi-pronged rushing attack that included fellow 2021 prospect Javonte Williams. He finished his career there with 3,404 rushing yards, 656 receiving yards and 28 total touchdowns in 44 games. Carter also took part in the 2021 Senior Bowl where he led the National team with 60 rush yards on eight carries with a touchdown. Michael Carter UNC • RB • 8 HEIGHT5'8 WEIGHT201 AGE21 (5/7/99) 40-YARD DASH4.50/4.55 *Pro Day VERTICAL JUMP34-inches View Profile We're breaking down everything you need to know about Carter from a Fantasy manager perspective, including best fits, Dynasty outlook, measurables, scouting report, key stats and an NFL comparison. NFL Draft: Prospect profiles | Mock drafts, rankings Fantasy fits Denver Broncos Not many teams will view Carter as an every-down back, so it'll take a team that desperately needs a "lightning" component for its run game to make Carter attractive for Fantasy. The Broncos can offer exactly that. Carter could theoretically be Denver's "1B" option to Melvin Gordon's "1A" and, with a strong rookie season, could contend for the lead role as soon as 2022. New York Jets Gang Green's run game is wide open and figures to be molded like San Francisco's. While that means no one back will reliably be counted upon game after game, it also means cut-back runners who excel in zone blocking will be prioritized. That's a massive part of Carter's game. Landing in New York could equate to 10-plus touches a week right off the bat. Arizona Cardinals It might take some guts from Kliff Kingsbury to roll into the 2021 season with satellite backs like Chase Edmonds and Carter as his top options, but they could feasibly rotate and be used similarly. Predicting weekly stats would be tough, but at least a workload of eight-plus touches per game could be leaned on (and way more if Edmonds were to struggle or miss time). Houston Texans The Texans' backfield is crowded right now, but Carter would immediately become the team's most elusive running back and could help in the passing game. Moreover, he'd be in a position to be a bigger part of their run game in 2022. Head on over to Spotify, Apple, or wherever else you consume podcasts to follow Fantasy Football Today in 5. Dynasty outlook Carter's a good back who's going to have to catch some breaks to become a workhorse in the NFL. He's a shifty, compact runner, but he doesn't have the blazing speed, consistent power or pass protection chops to lead a backfield. Not at this point anyway. It wedges him into a complementary role that, in the right offense, could mean anywhere from 10-to-15 touches per week. He could evolve from there, but he could also struggle to keep that workload. In a rookie class with several great running backs and even more great receivers, Carter should fall to the end of Round 1 if not early Round 2 in rookie-only drafts. Scouting report Strengths Short, stocky build challenged defenders not only to wrap him up but also locate him behind his offensive linemen. Displayed excellent patience in following his blockers in both zone and power schemes. Transferred over to following blocks downfield, too. Had excellent vision to identify where his rushing lanes were. When he did stop or shuffle his feet, it was usually because defenders crashed his O-line. He didn't bump into his O-line's butts very often. Terrific focus and fearlessness, which helped him navigate very tight quarters when running between the tackles. Carter had very good lateral agility that gave him the goods to be a cut-back escape artist. Would regularly jump cut, shift, slide and juke his way through defenses for extra numbers. Don't mistake his size for his toughness. Carter was never afraid to run with a physical edge. Was unfazed by lower-body tackle attempts, frequently breaking out of defenders' grasps like Alvin Kamara. That includes when he ran in tight, dense spaces between the tackles. He's slippery. Acceleration and burst weren't consistent but was mostly good. Typically sprung into gear once he diagnosed a play and knew where he wanted to go. Wasn't a burner but had good enough speed, displayed at its best when Carter rushed to the edges and broke away from defenders. Finished plays with toughness and smarts. Did a solid job of diagnosing defenders at the end of plays. Would run to contact frequently to max out his yardage and often would drag a defender to pick up extra yardage. Ball security was very good. Fumbled twice in 2018 (109 touches), once in 2019 (198 touches), zero times in 2020 (181 touches). Mostly good hands in the passing game. One drop all of 2020. Naturally turned upfield after the catch and was effective in space. Returned kicks for North Carolina, averaging 22.4 yards per return on 29 tries with no touchdowns. Concerns Hand size is 8 3/4, which is considered very small. Underweight, which could make him a liability if pressed into a big role. Carter isn't a big target, but his power was non-existent when defenders hit him high. When defenders wrapped him above the waist, the play was over. Had good burst, but it took him a second to recognize where to run once he had the football in his hands. The slightly slow reaction time could cost him opportunities at the pro level. Speed was never electric -- would get caught from behind by faster defenders in the ACC. Didn't see him run a variety of routes and might be best as a flare/screen/dumpoff option in the passing game. Willing to work in pass protection but wasn't good at it. At best he was inconsistent and at worst he got completely overpowered by linebackers. Had nearly 25% of his entire 2020 rushing production in final game at Miami. Didn't miss a game in 2019 or 2020, but a broken wrist cost him two games in 2018 and a torn right PCL and LCL in 2015 forced him from nearly all of his junior year of high school. Some may consider it a red flag that he sat out of the Orange Bowl, his last college game. Stats breakdown G Att RuYds Avg TD Rec ReYds Avg TD 2020 11 156 1245 8.0 9 25 267 10.7 2 2020 v top 25 4 66 685 10.4 5 6 93 15.5 0 Career 44 514 3404 6.6 22 82 656 8 6 Advanced stats to know (all from 2020)* 3.46 yards before contact per rush, sixth-best in nation 4.47 yards after contact per rush, 14th-best in nation 47 missed tackles forced, fifth-best in nation 29 carries of 15-plus yards, best in nation Small sample size, but Carter converted 90% of his carries on downs of three yards or fewer (9 of 10). It was the third-best mark in the nation. Played four games last year with under 15 touches, three with 20-plus touches NFL comparison A lot of names came to mind when watching Carter -- Brian Westbrook, Garrison Hearst and Austin Ekeler, to name three. But Carter's thick legs and physical ways brought back some serious Devonta Freeman vibes. Freeman entered the NFL as a part-time running back and then emerged as a full-timer who became a good Fantasy asset. That's the best-case scenario for Carter, who is nearly certain to be viewed as a part-time running back to begin his career with zero guarantees he will ever become more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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