The Official Draft Day 3 Thread

[Maxman]

Time for all of you true draftniks to shine and tell us why we should be upset about a linebacker we missed out on in Round 7.

Go Jets!

[Big_Slick]

Does this mean I get to start drinking beer at noon?

[Maxman]

17 minutes ago, Big_Slick said:

Does mean I get to start drinking beer at noon?

Yes. You have my permission.

[Defense Wins Championships]

Kenneth Gainwell. 

Jax provided Trevor Lawrence with run game to fall back on as a rookie; by drafting a game changing 1st round RB in Travis Etienne (with Robinson already there). 

I'd love to see JD after protecting Wilson with Vera-Tucker and giving Wilson a Tyreek Hill type of electric Receiving weapon; also provide Wilson as a rookie with a HR threat of a RB in Kenneth Gainwell who's super fast as a dual threat back with catching ability. 

Keep surrounding this kid with an O-Line and playmaking offensive weapons and Zach Wilson could become special for us. 

[BornJetsFan1983]

I'd just like to see at least two CBs. There are at least too worth drafting no?

Let's go Joe great job so far!

Yesterday was great. I saw other lineman going in the third and wonder if we should have stayed out and had those thirds..but very happy with our players so far...

[clayton163v]

I took a look at the late-round prospects and these are the players I thought were good fits for the Jets.  I believe they are all still available.  I am certain we will be adding a safety and a linebacker.  For our next pick, I think Nasirildeen - Safety and Dalman - Center represent the best value.  Jabril Cox is also good value.  I prefer Nasirildeen.

We have been linked to JaCoby Stevens and Trill WIlliams.

STRONG SAFETIES:

Hamsah Nasirildeen is a strong safety who is 6' 3" 215 lbs and carries a 3d-round grade.  This versatile player can line up deep or in the box and is a candidate to be our starting WILL.  Ourlads said he is a sound "fundamental tackler" and is a "solid zone defender".   He has the ideal prototype with can't teach skills like his 34.5" arms and 10" hands.   He is a good candidate to wear the Green since he is a great fit and can fill several roles.  This is true whether we are in the 4-3-4 or the 4-2-5 or 4-1-6.    He is experienced on the coverage units.  I would be surprised if the Jets took him in the 3d since we have other pressing needs, but starting with pick 108 in the fourth watch for his name.  To my knowledge, he has not been linked to the Jets in pre-draft interviews.

JaCoby Stevens is a strong safety who is 6' 1" 216 lbs and carries a 5th-round grade.  Ourlads said "he has played linebacker, deep safety, and as a hybrid" overhang player on the edge.  An "explosive tackler" he is at home in the box but has the versatility to play multiple roles.  Stevens has been linked to the Jets in pre-draft interviews.  Like Nasirildeen, he is a candidate to start at the WILL as well as in the box.   The Jets obviously like him and I could see him join us in the 5th.

Brady Breeze is a strong Safety who is 5' 10" 190 and carries a 5th-round grade.  Ourlads said "he has outstanding ball skills".  He is experienced in the box and "as a deep safety in cover two and quarters".  He is a good fit for a zone heavy scheme like the Jets and is an outstanding special teams player.  Small for a box safety, I would look for him in the sixth or as a free agent.  

FREE SAFETIES: 

Trill Williams is a free safety who is 6' 2" 200 lbs and carries a 4th round grade.  This versatile player lined up at corner, safety and nickel back and is a solid tackler.  A long strider with excellent length, he is an experienced zone defender and has played a lot of off man in the slot and on the outside.  He has been linked to the Jets in pre-draft interviews.  Like Jacoby Stevens above, Trill Williams can fill multiple roles which permits Saleh to disguise the pre-snap coverages.  I would look for him in the 5th.

Brandon White is a free safety who is 6' 2" 220 lbs and carries a 7th round grade.  This hammerhead safety hit like a truck and Ourlads said "he is at his best in zone coverage".  An outstanding special teams player.  I would look for him with our last 6th round pick or as an undrafted free agent.  Like JaCoby Stevens and Trill Williams he has excellent height and length and can play multiple roles.

CORNERS:

Israel Mukuamu is 6' 4" 205 and carries a 4th round grade.  Another big press corner, he also projects at safety.  Has wonderful length - 6' 4" with 34" arms and 9.5" hands.  It makes it difficult to throw over him in zone coverage and he gets his hands on a lot of balls.   He rarely misses tackles and makes the most of his excellent length.  Ourlads said "he will battle and still has upside".  They like his potential at safety and as the corner assigned to the big receivers in the NFL.  He is a good fit for the Jets. 

Mark Webb is 6' 1" 210 and carries a 6th round grade.  He has played corner, safety and nickel back and is a solid special teams player.  I could see us take him with our last 6th round pick or sign him if he goes undrafted. 

CENTERS:

Drew Dalman has a 4th round grade and is ranked at #134 overall.  Dalman is a "center only" prospect and does not project at guard.  Nor does he offer scheme versatility.  He is a "zone only" and "center only" player.  He is too light at 286 lbs for a man scheme.  Nor does he have room for more weight and is a finished product.  Highly intelligent - he went to Stanford - Ourlads says "he is a day one starter" in a zone scheme.  The son of OL Chris Dalman, he reminds me of Tom Nalen - the long-time pro bowl center for the Broncos.  Nalen played in a zone scheme at 260 lbs and the whole league was afraid of him.  Zone schemes value quickness and lateral agility over raw bulk and power.  Like Nalen, Dalman is an ideal fit for the zone scheme we are running.  Would I take him at #107?  No.  Would I take him at #146?  Yes, I would.  If we like somebody better at another position, I would pass and see if we can get him later.  This is why.

Michael Menet out of Penn State, Trey Hill out of Georgia and Jimmy Morrissey out of Pitt are all great fits for a zone scheme.  All have potential to develop into starters.  All are cheap.  Menet carries a 6th round grade, Hill and Morrissey carry 7th round grades.  It is certainly possible that none of them get drafted.  I would be happy to bring one in with one of our 6th round picks and develop him.  Menet is an athletic center who is a good fit for a zone scheme but needs to get stronger.  Hill is a farking monster who also has the wheels and quickness to play zone.  He has positional versatility and could develop at guard or center.  He needs work on his technique and is not ready or he would go earlier.  Like Dalmen, Morrissey is a "center only" and "zone scheme" only player.  Because Dalman, Menet and Morressey lack both positional and scheme versatility, they are going to go later in the draft than players like Humphrey who offers both.  Hill is still raw and will take time to develop.  I could see him going earlier than his grade because he offers positional and scheme versatility. 

LINEBACKERS:

MIKES:

Jabril Cox - 3d round grade.  6' 2" 233 lbs.  Athletic linebacker who is solid in coverage.  Has the skill level of a three down starter. 

Cameron McGrone (an excellent name for a linebacker) is another traditional Mike.  He is 6" 1 and 236 lbs and carries a 5th round grade.  I also expect him to fall lower than his grade.  He too is likely a two-down linebacker but unlike Barnes he is a solid special teams player on the coverage units. 

Paddy Fisher out of Northwestern is 6' 3" 240 lbs and carries a 6th round grade.  He is a solid run stuffing middle linebacker with plenty of zone experience.  Says Ourlads: "adept at finding the throwing lane, he causes hesitation in quarterback reads" and "makes plays on the ball with positioning".  

Erroll Thompson out of Mississippi State projects at Mike, carries a 6th round grade and is 6' and 254 lbs.  He is a physical linebacker with above average instincts and playmaking skill.  He is a traditional two-down Mike.

Rashard Ashby out of Virginia Tech carries a 7th round grade, projects at Mike and is 5' 10" 237 lbs.  He is a two-down linebacker and is solid against the run.  He is a good special teams player.

Tuf Borland (great name for a linebacker) out of Ohio State projects as a two-down Mike and carries a 7th round grade.   He is 6' 229 lbs.  

WILLS:

Garrett Wallow out of TCU carries a 5th round grade and projects at Will.  Adept at zone coverage Ourlads says: "he takes precise drops" and has a "feel for the throwing lanes".  He reroutes receivers and "causes some incomplete passes" that do not show up as PBUs.  He is a productive special team's player on the coverage units. 

Tony Fields out of West Virginia is 6' and 222 lbs.  He carries a 6th round grade and projects at Will.  A powerful tackler with sideline to sideline range. 

Nick Niemann out of Iowa is 6' 3" 237 lbs and carries a 6th round grade.  He projects at Will and SAM and has good wheels with 4.5 speed.  He is a demon special teams player.  The kind of guy who is hard to cut.  His brother Ben plays for the Chiefs.   

Isaiah McDuffie out of Boston College is 6' 1", 224 lbs and carries a 7th round grade.  He projects at Will.  Has sideline to sideline range and is good in zone coverage.  He is an outstanding special teams player. 

Isaiah Kaufusi (Yes, another Kaufusi!) out of BYU is 6' 1.5" and 220 lbs and projects at Will.  Good special teams player.  

Max Richardson out of Boston College is 5' 11" 230 and projects at Sam.   He is a quality special teams player.

Grant Stuard out of Houston is 5' 11" 230 lbs and projects at Sam.  he carries a 7th round grade and Ourlads says is a "terror on kick coverage units".

RUNNING BACKS:

Ken Gainwell is 5' 8" 200lbs with 4.47 speed and is a solid two-down back with a 3d round grade.   His speed game suits a wide zone scheme.  On third down you have to throw him the ball or split him out wide - he is very good at both.  We will not fool anybody into thinking he is going to stay in to block.  Said Ourlads "Poor blocker" and won't "move piles or "escape tackles".   Nevertheless, I like him but only as a bargain later in the draft.  Our 5th round pick or later.   

Chuba Hubbard is 6' 210 lbs with 4.5 speed and Ourlads says "would be an ideal fit for a zone-heavy rushing scheme".  A former world ranked 100 meter sprinter, he has that long speed that can "break off long runs" and "run away from all defenders".  His slender build makes him an ideal fit for a committee approach - this is not a bell cow.  His big play ability adds a dimension to our backfield.  Not a blocker or short yardage guy.  He carries a 4th round grade and I would grab him in the fifth if I can.  A good fit, is a good fit.

Elijah Mitchell is 5' 10" 215 but plays much bigger.  He has elite 4.35 speed but - despite that tremendous speed - is really a between the tackles workhorse.  A two-down back who neither blocks or catches well, he is a no nonsense north-south runner who fits a zone scheme as a one-cut runner to the hole.  He can help us and I would grab him in the 5th if we have not taken a back.

[T0mShane]

I would like Chuba Hubbard and Ben Mason. 

[Bronx]

4 hours ago, Maxman said:

Time for all of you true draftniks to shine and tell us why we should be upset about a linebacker we missed out on in Round 7.

Go Jets!

Do you sleep?

[Jets723]

I think we concentrate on defense today.  Preferably LB and Corner.  Cox is still on the board so if we snag him that’s 4 starters in a row JD has gotten which is tremendous 

[Irish Jet]

Carter is the second best back in the draft class IMO. I know there’s some more depth there but I’m still shocked he’s there. He would definitely be an instant impact guy. I know we need defensive help but it’s tempting...

[Averagejetsfan1421]

I dont know when he will go off the board but I hope we land the tightend from Miami belvin Jordan, 

[T0mShane]

32 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I would like Chuba Hubbard and Ben Mason. 

Pauline:

2021 NFL Draft Sleeper: Ben Mason, FB, Michigan

Multi-purpose weapon Ben Mason of Michigan is an under-the-radar prospect getting rave reviews. The sometimes fullback, sometimes H-back, sometimes tight end is another player who can squeeze every ounce of talent from his body. He’s a terrific blocker and a sensational pass catcher out of the backfield. Mason also does a solid job carrying the ball when called upon.

These are skills Mason showed off during his career at Michigan and, more importantly, duplicated on a grander scale during Senior Bowl practices. Scouts didn’t grade Mason coming into the season, but he’s now a lock Day 3 selection.

Which teams are looking at Mason?

Many teams are, but keep this in mind: Mason is drawing a lot of comparisons to Kyle Juszczyk, the nine-year veteran out of Harvard and five-time Pro Bowl selection who recently signed a five-year contract with the San Francisco 49ers.

More and more people tell me Mason is a natural fit for the New York Jets. They will be running an offense similar to the one used in San Francisco. Expectations are that Gang Green looks Mason’s way in the middle of Day 3.

[SR24]

Trey Smith still available too

[bealeb319]

Trey Smith still available too

I feel like at some point we need to look at defense but this kid is a monster size wise and fairly talented could develop into a pretty good guard.

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[choon328]

I'm looking at today a little differently. I think there is going to be some opportunities to add some veteran players who can fill important spots in the Jets depth chart for late rd picks. Keep in mind the Jets have 5-6th rd picks over the next 2 years. Here are some players that I think will be available:

QB Nick Foles (CHI)

TE David Njoku (CLE)

TE Hayden Hurst (ATL)

HB Keryon Johnson (DET)

HB Jeff Wilson (SF)

DE Dante Fowler Jr (ATL)

Edge Whitney Mercilus (HOU)

DE Marcus Davenport (NO)

CB Marshon Lattimore (NO)

CB Isaiah Oliver (ATL)

 

[choon328]

Day 3 should be about getting value not needs. None of these players should be expected to start year 1 so you look for the best players regardless of position. 

[Shockwave]

Jabril Cox ran a 4.5 40 and wwas one of the best cover LB in  college. They have to take him. We have no one signed at LB after next year that could do that. 

[Long Island Leprechaun]

54 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

Carter is the second best back in the draft class IMO. I know there’s some more depth there but I’m still shocked he’s there. He would definitely be an instant impact guy. I know we need defensive help but it’s tempting...

 Thank you. Infinitely better back than Gainwell or Hubbard. Carter would thrive in a zone scheme.

[Jets723]

5 minutes ago, Shockwave said:

Jabril Cox ran a 4.5 40 and wwas one of the best cover LB in  college. They have to take him. We have no one signed at LB after next year that could do that. 

Absolutely.  Im nervous Jacksonville will but fingers crossed 

[Long Island Leprechaun]

24 minutes ago, SR24 said:

Trey Smith still available too

If they can get past the blood clot issue, he's a worthwhile project. Big and mean at least.

[jetswin]

17 minutes ago, choon328 said:

I'm looking at today a little differently. I think there is going to be some opportunities to add some veteran players who can fill important spots in the Jets depth chart for late rd picks. Keep in mind the Jets have 5-6th rd picks over the next 2 years. Here are some players that I think will be available:

QB Nick Foles (CHI)

TE David Njoku (CLE)

TE Hayden Hurst (ATL)

HB Keryon Johnson (DET)

HB Jeff Wilson (SF)

DE Dante Fowler Jr (ATL)

Edge Whitney Mercilus (HOU)

DE Marcus Davenport (NO)

CB Marshon Lattimore (NO)

CB Isaiah Oliver (ATL)

 

interesting thought, I'd trade a 6th for Njoku or Lattimore, but is that realistic?

[adobolo2]

We have 6 picks left and personally Id be happy if we traded up a few times in the the next three rounds to get players we want as the talent this year is weaker than in previous drafts. These are the players I'd target

Carter or gainwell at running back

Marco wilson at corner (shoe gate has made him drop)

Mason at FB

Fields LB

Gillespie safety

Tommaria Terry Wr (absolutely love this guy)

We are still developing Clark at guard so I can't see us taking anymore guards but I wouldn't mind Tommy Doyle at tackel to be a swing tackel of the future.

 

 

 

[Jackie Treehorn]

What about RB Michael Carter from North Carolina? He’s pretty small but seems to be able to get things done. Fits outside-zone scheme and can catch. 

[Scoop24]

few guys i like heading into day 3

Jabril Cox

jordan Smith

Trill Williams 

Ben Mason

Michael Carter

Kenneth Gainwell

chuba Hubbard 

Royce Newman

Trey Smith

Brevin Jordan

Hamsah Nasirildeen

Tony Fields II

Zach McPherson 

Ellerson Smith

Rashad Weaver

Cameron McGrone

 

 

[Jets Voice of Reason]

Top guys for me in the 4th:

Elerson Smith

Carter or Gainwell

Trey Smith

Jabril cox

Ardarius washington

[Jethead]

Cox or Carter with our first pick today please.

Keep on rollin' JD!

[choon328]

10 minutes ago, jetswin said:

interesting thought, I'd trade a 6th for Njoku or Lattimore, but is that realistic?

Yes. The Saints are in a bad spot cap space wise. The Browns don't have a need for Njoku

[PepPep]

I know the Jets have been linked to guys like Jacoby Stevens, Trill Williams, Michael Carter, and some others in this area. But if Jabril Cox is there it would make a ton of sense to take him. Barring some injury or off-field issue I am unaware of, he gives you the best fit and value at the pick. He can also vie for a starting role as a Will before transitioning to Mike once we move on from Mosley because he is versatile enough to do that. 

I would put Michael Carter a close second as far as value + fit. He would be really special in this offensive scheme, albeit not as a bell-cow back. Maybe they get both guys in the 4th. However, I have the Jets targeting RB later on, so probably someone like Khalil Herbert or Jermar Jefferson in the 5th. There's a lot of talk of Kenneth Gainwell. But I don't think the Jets even met with him, and they looked at a lot of RBs. 

I can't imagine they target Trey Smith. He just seems like a poor fit. Jaylon Moore maybe if they want to double up on Guard. 

Kary Vincent Jr. and Elerson Smith are two names to watch out for.   

[Long Island Leprechaun]

4 minutes ago, Jethead said:

Cox or Carter with our first pick today please.

Keep on rollin' JD!

Yup. Those two are 3rd round talent at least and potential starter/rotational players. 

[Long Island Leprechaun]

1 minute ago, PepPep said:

I know the Jets have been linked to guys like Jacoby Stevens, Trill Williams, Michael Carter, and some others in this area. But if Jabril Cox is there it would make a ton of sense to take him. Barring some injury or off-field issue I am unaware of, he gives you the best fit and value at the pick. He can also vie for a starting role as a Will before transitioning to Mike once we move on from Mosley because he is versatile enough to do that. 

I would put Michael Carter a close second as far as value + fit. He would be really special in this offensive scheme, albeit not as a bell-cow back. Maybe they get both guys in the 4th. However, I have the Jets targeting RB later on, so probably someone like Khalil Herbert or Jermar Jefferson in the 5th. There's a lot of talk of Kenneth Gainwell. But I don't think the Jets even met with him, and they looked at a lot of RBs. 

I can't imagine they target Trey Smith. He just seems like a poor fit. Jaylon Moore maybe if they want to double up on Guard. 

Kary Vincent Jr. and Elerson Smith are two names to watch out for.   

Gainwell overachieved in college. He'll be pedestrian in the pro's. Ellerson Smith is also mediocre. But a great name.

[Cyberjet]

Everyone says our 4 RBs suck. I’m not sure the Jet coaching staff agrees. I think their philosophy is a good OL makes good RBs. But we’ll find out.

[Biggs]

Two dudes I scouted out of the Betty Ford clinic.  They can ball but they fell because of character issues.  

[Rhg1084]

The odds of getting a player at pick 107 or later that will have any type of meaningful career in the league is slim to none! If JD can’t get anyone here who will be a contributor is a home run 

[Irish Jet]

Everyone wants Carter or Cox but you just know we'll call some obscure defensive back or some sh*t. Hard to trust Douglas in the 4th round running back department after last year's fiasco. 

[Integrity28]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

I would like Chuba Hubbard and Ben Mason. 

Throw in one o those zone centers I’ve been chattering about during my “cramming for the draft” month, and yes.