TheClashFan Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I'll go B+ right now. Good draft, esp. the first four picks. I'm in the one more OL camp...esp. watching Trey Smith go so late to the Chiefs. On the bright side, now two young studs on the OL, likely both on the left side. A mediocrity at C, and JAGs at RG and RT. We need either Clarke or Edoga to show something this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: For me there is only one fail in this draft for the Jets and that is, only one olineman taken. The guy we got has pro bowl potential and we are better off now than before the draft no doubt but we took like 5 secondary/small LB players in a row essentially. This oline crop reminds me of last years WR crop in which douglas should have double dipped but did not and we did not double dip at oline this year. This is his one mistake. Disagree. LT = set LG = set C = solid vet signed for another year RG= 2nd year player and a FA vet RT = solid vet Next year you take a RT with one of our firsts and hopefully a center with one of the second round picks. JD has to spread out the rookie deals so we aren't trying to re-sign/replace everyone at once. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dupe Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: For me there is only one fail in this draft for the Jets and that is, only one olineman taken. The guy we got has pro bowl potential and we are better off now than before the draft no doubt but we took like 5 secondary/small LB players in a row essentially. This oline crop reminds me of last years WR crop in which douglas should have double dipped but did not and we did not double dip at oline this year. This is his one mistake. I like the approach a lot. We added what we believe is a blue chip prospect. We know AVT is going to start and think he has the chance to be an all-pro level guard. I cheer that we added weapons rather than developmental fat guys. We really do have a lot of OL guys on our roster. Some of you are so hung up on Tevon and doubling up on OL most of whom would be no better that what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Mike135 said: B. I would have used some of the 2022 draft capital to grab another oline starter early in the 2nd round. Sucks paying a premium, but worth it to give the young QB the best environment possible year 1. No. Then next year you would say we should have kept that pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 ASent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungaman Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 B+ based on current face value. Could go up or down when we look back in two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 A- Which is probably the best draft for this team in over 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ken Schroy said: No. Then next year you would say we should have kept that pick. Exactly. I love having two picks in the first three rounds next year. We can address all of our remaining needs with premium picks and then stock up on BAPs! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut Jet Penalty Makers Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I've been a critic here of JD's draft last year...particularly of the Morgan, Perine and Davis picks...I hope all 3 are off the roster soon..some of the picks look like they are designed to correct the bad picks they were last year and to ease them off the roster with the new picks....we'll see in the summer cuts..I like what he's done this year with a concentration of early offense picks...however, I do feel that some of this year's defense picks are repeating the cycle of converting them from their natural positions. That doesn't work in the long run and bears watching... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Just now, Jimmy 2 Times said: Exactly. I love having two picks in the first three rounds next year. We can address all of our remaining needs with premium picks and then stock up on BAPs! In fact, the more you think about how loaded they could be in 2023... it's exciting. Hopefully most of these kids develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticalJet2 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Rounds 1 -4 = A+ Rounds 3 - 6 = C+ to B- UDFA so far = A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 53 minutes ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: Disagree. LT = set LG = set C = solid vet signed for another year RG= 2nd year player and a FA vet RT = solid vet Next year you take a RT with one of our firsts and hopefully a center with one of the second round picks. JD has to spread out the rookie deals so we aren't trying to re-sign/replace everyone at once. Your definition of solid vet is different than mine. Also I've said all along I want a great oline as in one of the very best in the league. Also the depth is poor, an injury and the house of cards falls down. We;ve improved but I'll stick by my thought that this was a good draft for oline and we had lots of picks thus the want for a double dip. Hey it was a great draft but I'd rather have had a 2nd oline prospect than the extra safey /lb or cb. But I've been harping on the oline for like 10 years on this site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, Ken Schroy said: No. Then next year you would say we should have kept that pick. Nope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 We went offense (QB/LG/WR/RB with our first 4 draft picks (back to back to back to back) for the 1st time since 1983; That's 38 years in the makings. That's an automatic A++ draft class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: Your definition of solid vet is different than mine. Also I've said all along I want a great oline as in one of the very best in the league. Also the depth is poor, an injury and the house of cards falls down. We;ve improved but I'll stick by my thought that this was a good draft for oline and we had lots of picks thus the want for a double dip. Hey it was a great draft but I'd rather have had a 2nd oline prospect than the extra safey /lb or cb. But I've been harping on the oline for like 10 years on this site. 2 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Your definition of solid vet is different than mine. Also I've said all along I want a great oline as in one of the very best in the league. Also the depth is poor, an injury and the house of cards falls down. We;ve improved but I'll stick by my thought that this was a good draft for oline and we had lots of picks thus the want for a double dip. Hey it was a great draft but I'd rather have had a 2nd oline prospect than the extra safey /lb or cb. But I've been harping on the oline for like 10 years on this site. I want the best line in the league also. I questioned JD not double dipping at receiver last year, but seeing where we are now, we can see his bigger plan. Mims, a top Free Agent (Davis), and now Moore and it's a very nice trio that should complement each other nicely. Add in the kids on the practice squad and there's some actual depth. We can kind of glimpse what he's doing on the line: Left side hopefully set for the next decade, and tons of premium draft capitol to fill the right side next year. JD is playing the long game and it looks to be paying off. Fant and McGovern are more than serviceable for a year. I'm excited to see Clark play and Feeney is solid depth. Edoga hopefully takes a step forward after another year in the strength and conditioning program to add depth at tackle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamax99 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: For me there is only one fail in this draft for the Jets and that is, only one olineman taken. The guy we got has pro bowl potential and we are better off now than before the draft no doubt but we took like 5 secondary/small LB players in a row essentially. This oline crop reminds me of last years WR crop in which douglas should have double dipped but did not and we did not double dip at oline this year. This is his one mistake. I was thinking same thing, lol wish we got 1 more guard, but dont forget guard we drafted last year in 5rd is back . Maybe hes looking good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamax99 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 A for me would have been A plus if we got kicker from Miami, and another Guard /c right side of line is still iffy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 hours ago, The Crusher said: F, no kicker Just added one as UDFA. Does that change the grade? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 Best draft in over a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 39 minutes ago, MysticalJet2 said: Rounds 1 -4 = A+ Rounds 3 - 6 = C+ to B- UDFA so far = A Based on what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 A- The minus is for not trading back into the 3rd round for one of these guys. Quinn Meinerz - C/G Ben Cleveland - G Kendrick Green G/C Wyatt Davis - G Tommy Tremble - TE Robert Hainsey - OT Aaron Robinson - CB Ifeatu Melifonqu - CB Benjamin St-Juste - CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, southtown24th said: Based on what? You realize nothing in this thread is based on anything, right? Until we know if these players can play - it's not sh*t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 B+ Thought we got too cute at the end, and I wanted Ben Mason But I actually trust these guys to have really thought about their picks. As we saw with Mangini, the coaches are absolutely critical to picking players. With Maccagnan, his bad scouts did not consult with the coaches enough. WIth Gase, his coaches were bad, which is where some of the bad picks last year come from. You really sense that the players picked fit in the scheme. I think we will see big improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 It was a really good draftEven the talking heads are swooning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: People say that and then tell me that we got Cam Clark last year so we should be okay. Some drafts are poor in a position, some are better, this was a good oline draft. We shored up a number of positions. We got a new QB, a top OL, a really nice WR, a RB. I dont know, what can we do in one draft? I like the STs players we added at the end of the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Lith said: Just added one as UDFA. Does that change the grade? I don’t believe you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I don’t believe you 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manu81 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamax99 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 hours ago, nycdan said: So here's a random though on your last point. 2022 draft capital may have a better use for teams that need to clear more cap and can only do it by trading, not cutting players. Example: Saints are right at the cap, but once they sign a full roster, will be at least $2M over. And they have restructured everything with a pulse. I believe if they were to release either of their expiring rookies, Ramzczyk or Lattimore, it would still hit their cap since the money is guaranteed. However, if they trade them, they are free of that cap. $11M for Ramzczyk and $10M for Lattimore. So it's possible they find themselves needing to trade a player to clear the cap. In that case, the Jets have both the available cap and trade assets to make that deal happen. Other teams in a similar situation: Falcons - $6M over the effective cap. Hayden Hurst? Saves them $600k if they cut and $2M if they trade. Bears - $3.4M over the effective cap. We need a vet QB. They need to move one. Nick Foles? They might have to give us a pick for that one, but it's one way they can solve two problems at once. Eagles - $4M over the effective cap. Lattimore is a player ive been saying Jets should make a play at, hes a stud corner with 1 year left on team over cap. Give them a2nd next year and maybe one of DBs we drafted . He a perfect corner for Saleh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 B+A+ rounds 1-4B- rounds 5-7 the trade was befuddling Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 hours ago, The Crusher said: F, no kicker They took UDFA K Chris Naggar who has a strong leg hitting three 60+ yarders and can punt, kickoff, and hold. He was a top kicker in college the past year or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 The only thing that matters too much is Zach Wilson. If he is good we can start greenbaying and patriotism things a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, UnknownJetFan said: They took UDFA K Chris Naggar who has a strong leg hitting three 60+ yarders and can punt, kickoff, and hold. He was a top kicker in college the past year or so. Sounds good but I was hoping a second day pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jago Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 10 picks even with big tradeupfqbavtwr,rb, plus bonus te in udfaand nice mashup of hybrid Lb and cbs for the back 7 and s/t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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