Hal N of Provo Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 33 minutes ago, BklynJetsFan85 said: Not singling you out per se... ive seen a lot of people with the williams pick at 10 - i feel like it carries risk... as with any knee injury. They of course say he will make full recovery bla bla bla... but risk the 10th pick to do it? Some teams are in a better position to take risks. The Jets have too many holes to take a known risk like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 +4 2023 2nd round picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sonny Werblin Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Trade back special. I think the Baltimore and Buffalo trades are unrealistic, but it was fun nonetheless. 6 picks in the top 50 and 9 in the top 76 offer lots of options. 18. Tyler Linderbaum OC Iowa 25. Devin Lloyd LB Utah 35. Cameron Thomas EDGE San Diego State 38. Trey McBride TE Colorado State 45. Isaiah Spiller RB Texas A&M 49. Derion Kendrick CB Georgia 57. Lecitus Smith OG Virginia Tech 69. Jake Ferguson TE Wisconsin 76. Wan'Dale Robinson WR Kentucky 114. Yusuf Corker S Kentucky 145. Myron Cunningham OT Arkansas 162. JoJo Domann LB Nebraska 2023 BAL 2nd 2023 BUF 2nd Trade Details Received: Pick 14 - Jameson Williams and Pick 89 - Matthew Butler Received: Pick 18 and Pick 49 Trade Details Received: Pick 10 - Derek Stingley Jr. and Pick 108 - Rachaad White Received: Pick 25, Pick 57, Pick 89 and 2023 BUF 2nd Trade Details Received: Pick 4 - Andrew Booth Jr. Received: Pick 14, Pick 45, Pick 76 and 2023 BAL 2nd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 This is how the draft is gonna go so I’m sorry if you think great CBs are unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 30 minutes ago, kdels62 said: This is how the draft is gonna go so I’m sorry if you think great CBs are unnecessary. Were I to guess, those top two picks are positions they’d like to be in a position to take early next year - though I guess the early linebacker depends if they want to replace Mosley or bridge Mosley. The team is terrible so you can justify almost any pick, but Douglas has shown us he prioritizes supporting the young QB and building inside out. Pretty clear neither is done yet, though that focus has hurt other areas of the team. Maybe he pivots early because he feels a little pressure but feels a touch more likely (to me at least) that he continues down the path he’s on. Deviating from both would be surprising. Feel like Douglas has a little “trust the process” in him too. Think those picks make the team better in a way I’m not sure he cares to make the team better right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdub03 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, kdels62 said: This is how the draft is gonna go so I’m sorry if you think great CBs are unnecessary. Very similar to my last run through. Although, there is no way we're drafting 12 guys, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 No trades. We roll with McGovern at RG, Becton at RT, and Fant gets traded for a 2023 first round pick. Robinson is the thunder to Carter's lightning. Hopefully they signed a FA receiver or Moore takes a big step. Either way, the run game dominates for the next 5 years and Zach can hit McBride 80 times a year off of play action. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 20 hours ago, jetstream23 said: "The jetstream 12" Better than Idzik's! lol 12 picks and no lbs??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 hours ago, BurntDice said: 12 picks and no lbs??? I want all offense but we need a bunch of LBs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Peace Frog said: I want all offense but we need a bunch of LBs. I want the opposite of last year. Defense heavy early and offense late. This draft is stacked with D in the first 2 rounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 4 hours ago, BurntDice said: 12 picks and no lbs??? I know. It just didn't fall that way. Dean was off the board before Round 2. I like Harris in Round 2 but went with Cine who I think was a good value there. Also, I'm not familiar enough with the late round linebackers to make decent guesstimates as to who to pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 minute ago, jetstream23 said: I know. It just didn't fall that way. Dean was off the board before Round 2. I like Harris in Round 2 but went with Cine who I think was a good value there. Also, I'm not familiar enough with the late round linebackers to make decent guesstimates as to who to pick. There’s a few good ones like Muma , asamoah, Walker. Muma is going to be at the sr bowl. I really like him a lot 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, BurntDice said: There’s a few good ones like Muma , asamoah, Walker. Muma is going to be at the sr bowl. I really like him a lot Funny, I just grabbed Asamoah in a mock. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Funny, I just grabbed Asamoah in a mock. lol This would be a phenomenal draft. DAMN you for these trips down fantasy lane. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 13. Garrett Wilson WR Ohio State 22. Tyler Linderbaum OC Iowa 35. Cameron Thomas EDGE San Diego State 38. Zion Johnson OG Boston College 44. Jahan Dotson WR Penn State 53. Trey McBride TE Colorado State 69. Daniel Faalele OT Minnesota 78. Leon O'Neal Jr. S Texas A&M 108. Mykael Wright CB Oregon 116. Darrian Beavers LB Cincinnati 145. Christian Watson WR North Dakota State 162. JoJo Domann LB Nebraska 197. Zyon McCollum CB Sam Houston State 2023 CLE 2nd 2023 LV 2nd 2023 LV 7th 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 On 1/25/2022 at 8:05 AM, HighPitch said: fellas where are the wrs? ? 15. Jameson Williams WR Alabama 18. Tyler Linderbaum OC Iowa 35. Travon Walker EDGE Georgia 38. Zion Johnson OG Boston College 46. Jahan Dotson WR Penn State 49. Trey McBride TE Colorado State 69. Daniel Faalele OT Minnesota 77. George Pickens WR Georgia 83. Brandon Smith LB Penn State 108. Alec Pierce WR Cincinnati 114. Darrian Beavers LB Cincinnati 145. Christian Watson WR North Dakota State 162. Zyon McCollum CB Sam Houston State 2023 NO 4th 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 9 hours ago, jetsons said: ? 15. Jameson Williams WR Alabama 18. Tyler Linderbaum OC Iowa 35. Travon Walker EDGE Georgia 38. Zion Johnson OG Boston College 46. Jahan Dotson WR Penn State 49. Trey McBride TE Colorado State 69. Daniel Faalele OT Minnesota 77. George Pickens WR Georgia 83. Brandon Smith LB Penn State 108. Alec Pierce WR Cincinnati 114. Darrian Beavers LB Cincinnati 145. Christian Watson WR North Dakota State 162. Zyon McCollum CB Sam Houston State 2023 NO 4th Never heard of Christian Watson. Me likey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 9 hours ago, jetsons said: ? 15. Jameson Williams WR Alabama 18. Tyler Linderbaum OC Iowa 35. Travon Walker EDGE Georgia 38. Zion Johnson OG Boston College 46. Jahan Dotson WR Penn State 49. Trey McBride TE Colorado State 69. Daniel Faalele OT Minnesota 77. George Pickens WR Georgia 83. Brandon Smith LB Penn State 108. Alec Pierce WR Cincinnati 114. Darrian Beavers LB Cincinnati 145. Christian Watson WR North Dakota State 162. Zyon McCollum CB Sam Houston State 2023 NO 4th Although Williams in round 1 would be a tough one for me. I guess we’re not getting him any other way but ooooff I don’t know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 On 1/21/2022 at 10:23 PM, BurntDice said: I just threw up in my mouth a bit Gross. If your hand was forced to go ALL offense. Give me a better draft. Give me your version. I want to see you avoid all the prospects I proposed and have a stellar draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, PepPep said: Gross. If your hand was forced to go ALL offense. Give me a better draft. Give me your version. I want to see you avoid all the prospects I proposed and have a stellar draft. The first 2 rounds in this draft is defense heavy. There’s 0 reason to force offense in a draft filled with quality defensive players. Sign/trade for a wr like Allen Robinson or DJ Moore/Ridley/Cooper and sign a guard and Te and the offense is in good shape pre draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, BurntDice said: The first 2 rounds in this draft is defense heavy. There’s 0 reason to force offense in a draft filled with quality defensive players. Sign/trade for a wr like Allen Robinson or DJ Moore/Ridley/Cooper and sign a guard and Te and the offense is in good shape pre draft Of course I would not go ALL offense. LOL. If my had was forced to go ALL offense, those would be my selections. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 30 minutes ago, BurntDice said: The first 2 rounds in this draft is defense heavy. There’s 0 reason to force offense in a draft filled with quality defensive players. Sign/trade for a wr like Allen Robinson or DJ Moore/Ridley/Cooper and sign a guard and Te and the offense is in good shape pre draft It seems like nobody in this forum reads. I made it pretty clear that there are a lot of people that want zach supported and not defense. I made it clear that this was for fun. read! also i do not agree with that this draft is better for defense. All these edge guys have big question marks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 40 minutes ago, PepPep said: Gross. If your hand was forced to go ALL offense. Give me a better draft. Give me your version. I want to see you avoid all the prospects I proposed and have a stellar draft. thats simple, just look at the OP if your forced to go all offense. WR is a huge need. Crowder, Cole and maybe Berrios are gone. just Moore and Davis are left. your not filling those all thru FA. this way we get our pick of the top 2 WRs in this draft. wasting a 4th and a 10 on the OL is insane. then you get the best TE which is probably Mcbride or whoever TE is around at 2a. then at 2b i would get a RB. thats if im FORCED all offense. in reality i want a Edge, WR, TE, and anyone not OL. OL are a dime a dozen. you can get good ones on day 3 , FA, UDFA... besides i think JD gets a starting RG in FA and waits for a back up RT on day 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 53 minutes ago, HighPitch said: It seems like nobody in this forum reads. I made it pretty clear that there are a lot of people that want zach supported and not defense. I made it clear that this was for fun. read! also i do not agree with that this draft is better for defense. All these edge guys have big question marks. There’s a lot more to defense than edge. Take a look at the top 50 players on most big boards. What do you see? It’s usually 3/4 defense. There’s also a ton of good edge players that can be had in the early second most likely. It’s fairly deep at lb, safety, dl, cb. Also fixing the D does support Zach. Take a look at the eagles game. Zach only had what 2 drives in the second half? The defense being trash makes it much more difficult for the offense. They are on the field much less and get out of rhythm and they have to score on nearly every drive just be in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 OK but I'd say one of the first round OL men, Burks and Trey mcbride at TE would be SUPER safe and make a HUGE difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Just now, HighPitch said: OK but I'd say one of the first round OL men, Burks and Trey mcbride at TE would be SUPER safe and make a HUGE difference Why? Kinnard is a perfect fit for the offense and he can probably be had in the early 2nd. the same can be said for ruckert. He’s a perfect fit for the offense and will probably go in the 3rd. same with wrs these guys would be late first or 2nd round picks the last few years. there’s more than the first round man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BklynJetsFan85 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 WHEELING & DEALING 101 8. New York Jets Andrew Booth Jr. CB, Clemson 10. New York Jets Tyler Linderbaum IOL, Iowa 35. New York Jets Daxton Hill S, Michigan 38. New York Jets Drake London WR, USC 43. New York Jets Trey McBride TE, Colorado State 51. New York Jets Isaiah Spiller RB, Texas A&M 74. New York Jets Kyler Gordon CB, Washington 107. New York Jets Leo Chenal LB, Wisconsin 144. New York Jets Jack Sanborn LB, Wisconsin 161. New York Jets Cade Hall EDGE, San Jose State Trades: TRADE 1 RECEIVED Round 1 Pick 4 Derek Stingley Jr. CB, LSU Round 3 Pick 69 Kingsley Enagbare EDGE, South Carolina Round 1 Pick 8 Andrew Booth Jr. CB, Clemson Round 2 Pick 43 Trey McBride TE, Colorado State Round 3 Pick 74 Kyler Gordon CB, Washington Round 2 2022 Draft TRADE 2 RECEIVED Round 2 Pick 51 Isaiah Spiller RB, Texas A&M Round 4 Pick 113 Hassan Haskins RB, Michigan Round 2 2022 Draft Not sure about WR Drake London falling to the 2nd round... websites projecting him anywhere from early-mid 1st round to early 2nd round. draft network has him as 2nd round value. PFF has him as 1st round value. Either way - dude is 6'5 210, strong hands, very good route runner, good RAC (especially for such a big guy), now this is why I love him for the Jets: Ball Skills: He has outstanding ball skills. He has an uncanny ability to track the deep ball. He also has an outstanding catch radius and jumping ability. So even off targeted throws he can clean up and make the QB look good. & Big Play Ability: He is a big-play threat whenever his number is called. He has the speed to beat you vertically and he will likely win the contested catch. He’s a surprisingly dangerous runner with the ball in his hands, as well. Those Wisconsin LBs are everything I love in a defensive player. They play mean and hard, especially chenal - known as the meanest/toughest enforcer in the Big 10. If hits you square - you're feeling it the next day. Like him for a lot of forced fumbles resulting from hard hits at the next level. ' The rb spiller draws comparisons to Joe Mixon...him and carter would compliment each other perfectly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Kinnard i agree. Ruckert? No way. Some have him as a 5th rounder. Windermyer and mcbride are the 2 best. we can agree to disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Maybe my favorite without trades so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I don't believe either 'Trey' will last into round 2, but if we landed them both, I'd consider the draft a resounding success, almost no matter who we drafted in round 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 7 hours ago, Peace Frog said: Although Williams in round 1 would be a tough one for me. I guess we’re not getting him any other way but ooooff I don’t know. I agree but the upside for me outweighs the down... at pick #15... I would take the chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BklynJetsFan85 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Gunna give cliff notes on a few players: I'm a big Fightin Irish fan - this kid Hamilton is an effin unicorn! Jamal Adams times 10. Also great run stopper - was a big problem for us. Aspects that really jump out to me: Football IQ: I haven’t seen many prospects in my time that see the game as cleanly and calmly as Hamilton. He moves at a different speed than the rest of the players on the field—both faster and slower when needed in both instances. He’ll pick up on keys from a deep post alignment and attack swiftly, oftentimes beating his LBs to the spot. But when he’s closer to the line of scrimmage, he’s content to slow-play the ball and allow the play to declare itself with patience before calling upon his elite athleticism to attack and rally to the football. Refined as a deep coverage defender and as a B-level/nickel defender against both the run and the pass. Versatility: What do you want him to do? He’ll do it. Seriously. I knew coming into my film study that he had the athletic profile to play all over the field but was blown away at just how diverse of a defender he was. Deep post safety, robber, sack WILL linebacker, nickelback, walked up on the line of scrimmage, the punt team—you name it. Hamilton has rare athletic gifts and they’ll allow him to fill a plethora of roles and reps on defense. He’s going to be a total headache to account for ahead of each and every snap for opposing offenses and has the potential to disrupt plenty of opposing concepts if the defense has a read on what they’re trying to accomplish each week Run Defending: Literally a cheat code in the run game. I’ve watched him fit up interior gaps from 12-15 yards of depth with consistency and without issue in uneven levels on the defense. His perimeter work, both from high-post alignment and in the nickel, is excellent. He’s swift to drive and attack blocks, beating them to the spot and then uncovering to square up the ball-carrier. He’s an effective tackler and his range is out-of-this-world good in this capacity. There's much more to him and if anyone wants me to post the full scouting report, I will. FS/CB Daxton Hill - projected as FS/Nickel Corner - figure play him inside. or at FS (depends how they would decide to play Hamilton), he also fits our system - perfect for cover 1 & cover 3. Football IQ: Hill has very impressive instincts and awareness. He shows the ability to read the quarterback's eyes in zone coverage and allows him to take him to the spot. He is quick to read and diagnose run plays and is very good at sniffing out screens and pick pattern concepts. Versatility: Hill is an extremely versatile player at the back end of this defense. He can play single-high free safety, nickel, outside corner, and even has aligned as a dime backer. His blend of athleticism and toughness are exactly what NFL defensive coordinators are looking for out of a defensive back as it allows them to be creative on where he is utilized. Competitive Toughness: A true football player. Hill is as tough as they come and always looks to deliver a blow upon contact. He plays the game the right way, playing through the whistle and always hustling to the ball even when the play goes the opposite way. His intensity and passion are evident and he plays much, much bigger than his frame should allow. Special Team: With Hill’s straight-line speed and toughness, he projects to be a rockstar on special teams from day one. He was very good playing special teams for the Wolverines covering kicks early on in his career and he will certainly be an asset in that phase of the game at the next level. WR Jalen Tolbert - hadn't seen this guy until today, watched some tape myself - kid is a baller! Ideal Role: X or Z receiver Scheme Fit: Scheme-versatile traits Run After Catch: Tolbert has a good mix of size, speed, and power that allows him to be a tough tackle running with the ball after the catch. Talbot has the speed to simply run away from defenders that he knows that he is faster than and he has the strength to power through smaller defenders and arm tackles to pick up extra yardage. Ball Skills: This player has flashed spectacular plays to showcase his ball skills. He does a good job of tracking the ball in the deeper portions of the field and if need be can use one hand to haul the pass in. He can make all of the tough catches with a defender draped over him but needs to improve on making the simple catches. At times, Tolbert has concentration drops in relatively easy pass-catching situations. Competitive Toughness: Tolbert's competitive traits come out in two aspects of his game. When blocking, Tolbert is a high-effort guy and tries to impose his physicality on defenders. And the other trait that shows his competitive toughness is his ability to make catches with defenders draped all over him. Tolbert shows determination and toughness to absorb the contact and still compete to catch the ball Big Play Ability: Tolbert has exceptional big-play ability. He has the speed to get on top of defenders and stack them so he can haul in the deep pass. He also is a threat on short to intermediate routes to score from wherever on the field. TE Jeremy Ruckert - another guy I wasn't super familiar with because I've been locked onto Tre McBride. *NOTE* I just started mocking heavy for this year the past couple of weeks.... learning about diff guys every few days. I like him a lot, not sure if I love him, Ohio State TEs always seem to transition to NFL kinda meh or worse. Hopefully he bucks the trend. Ideal role: Starting tight end, featured move piece Scheme tendencies: Split flow zone, 12-personnel-heavy groupings, vertical seam stretch in play-action. Hands: Ruckert’s hands are terrific—he hasn't been given very many targets but he certainly made the most of them. There are a number of eye-popping one-handed receptions on his resume in traffic and in tight congestion and those plays, along with good concentration on tight-window throws (Clemson, 2020) showcase how impactful he can be when the field is congested. His hands and length offer a large catch radius to help out his quarterback in instances in which the throw isn’t made with precision accuracy. Competitive Toughness: I appreciate how hard Ruckert plays despite never being a focal point of the offense. He’s got very good functional strength for a player of his stature, he plays fast and with enthusiasm as a blocker and will be a stout presence on leveraged blocks on the edge. He’s not a mauler in the run game but his role, if crafted with angular blocks, will be an impactful one for the running game. Big Play Ability: If you need a tightly-contested reception, you’d do well to throw to Ruckert if the defender has their back turned. He’s got good concentration and strong hands to squeeze the ball, making him dangerous and valuable in the red area. But expecting him to help create explosive plays in the passing game may be an ambitious ask. G Cole Strange - depth for now, hopefully develop into a RG (note - from small school, he def has the tools, but level of competition - gunna need some time to adjust) He also 6'6 301lbs Ideal Role: Developmental starting guard Scheme Fit: Zone Competitive Toughness: Strange is a nasty blocker with ideal temperament. He brings the fight on every snap and his motor always runs hot. He gets after people and keeps battling through the whistle. He has the edge teams are looking for. Balance: Strange is an aggressive blocker but is also controlled. He has good contact balance while playing with good bend and leverage. Overall, his coordination and weight distribution is ideal. Anchor Ability: Strange absorbs power well with his firm anchor. His commitment to playing with good bend and leveraged hips enables him to drop his anchor and hold his ground. His initial pop in his hands and stout anchor make it difficult for opponents to rush through him. Power at POA: Strange is a people-mover in the run game. His firm punch, leveraged hips, and powerful leg drive enable him to displace defenders and wide lanes. He has NFL-caliber power to exchange in the trenches. Football IQ: Strange’s football intelligence shines on tape. He has terrific spatial awareness and ability to adjust in pass protection. He has excellent timing in the run game and understands body positioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYDreamer Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 4: R1 P4 EDGE Aidan Hutchinson - Michigan 10: R1 P10 LB Nakobe Dean - Georgia 35: R2 P3 C Tyler Linderbaum - Iowa 38: R2 P6 TE Trey McBride - Colorado State 69: R3 P5 TE Jeremy Ruckert - Ohio State 108: R4 P6 RB Brian Robinson - Alabama 114: R4 P12 G Emil Ekiyor Jr. - Alabama 145: R5 P3 LB Brian Asamoah - Oklahoma 162: R5 P20 WR Slade Bolden - Alabama 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Not sure which one I like more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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