kevinc855 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 I’m curious. I’m fully supportive of Wilson, moving forward. He’s a Jet now and that’s all that matters but reading draft grades I need reassurance. Reading Pete Prisco and many others, there seems to be a theme that many feel Fields will turn out to be then second best QB in the draft. I was also high on Fields and skeptical of Wilson due to the cupcake schedule. That said he has amazing arm talent and fits our scheme. So my question is what exactly did JD fall in love with? Is it just raw talent. JD always struck me as the guy who like the big rough and tumble, play hurt type of QB, not the pretty boy from Draper Utah. Is it scheme? Is it the tape? I want nothing more then Wilson to succeed but I’m nervous how this all turns out. Help me out 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tranquilo Posted May 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2021 Tape and retention. And he's a romantic. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted May 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2021 I do well in life by not having Pete Prisco's opinion influence mine at all. 19 2 4 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: I’m curious. I’m fully supportive of Wilson, moving forward. He’s a Jet now and that’s all that matters but reading draft grades I need reassurance. Reading Pete Prisco and many others, there seems to be a theme that many feel Fields will turn out to be then second best QB in the draft. I was also high on Fields and skeptical of Wilson due to the cupcake schedule. That said he has amazing arm talent and fits our scheme. So my question is what exactly did JD fall in love with? Is it just raw talent. JD always struck me as the guy who like the big rough and tumble, play hurt type of QB, not the pretty boy from Draper Utah. Is it scheme? Is it the tape? I want nothing more then Wilson to succeed but I’m nervous how this all turns out. Help me out Hahahahahaha... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted May 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2021 Wilson has the second best blonde hair in the draft class. Who knows, if he had grown it out longer he could’ve gone #1. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nycdan Posted May 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2021 Fidelio said he would be fired if he didn't draft Wilson and at least two more consecutive offensive players. How could he ignore that warning? 6 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Zach isn’t Sam Darnold and JD didn’t have any QBs on the roster. And the headband thing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 I think it’s Mrs Wilson, not Zach Wilson. I don’t think she hot at all but she thinks she’s Scarlett Johansson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tranquilo Posted May 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 minute ago, nycdan said: Fidelio said he would be fired if he didn't draft Wilson and at least two more consecutive offensive players. How could he ignore that warning? Tbh it's pretty crazy he went 4 offensive players in a row after all that. Funny sh*t. Good call, @FidelioJet 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Yet Fields fell out of the top 10. Apparently the many people weren’t QB needy teams drafting in the top 10. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetblue95 Posted May 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2021 fields was the 4th QB taken and was passed on by multiple QB-needy teams. but pete prisco and others... 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 I think @KRL captured it in his post with this article 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DoubleDown Posted May 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2021 The skills Wilson showed during the 2020 college season translate very well to the NFL. When you study the tape, it is littered with tight window throws, aggressive decisions while still taking care of the football, going through progressions, good pocket movement, good mobility, looking off defenders, snaps from under center, and a strong arm. From everything I have read, he lives and breathes football and is dedicated to mastering his craft. Simply put, he checks alot of boxes. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, CTJetsFan said: I think @KRL captured it in his post with this article Bingo. Read the Breer SI article if you want to know "why". If you don't care to know why and just want to contend that Fields will be better, that's your right to do so. Time will tell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Long Island Leprechaun Posted May 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2021 Personally, I think both Wilson and Fields can be successful in their own way. The question you should really be asking is why Fields went seven spots below Trey Lance, who is a similar QB from a tiny school with a sparse record. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, CTJetsFan said: I think @KRL captured it in his post with this article But doesn't the summer of George end poorly? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 25 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: I’m curious. I’m fully supportive of Wilson, moving forward. He’s a Jet now and that’s all that matters but reading draft grades I need reassurance. Reading Pete Prisco and many others, there seems to be a theme that many feel Fields will turn out to be then second best QB in the draft. I was also high on Fields and skeptical of Wilson due to the cupcake schedule. That said he has amazing arm talent and fits our scheme. So my question is what exactly did JD fall in love with? Is it just raw talent. JD always struck me as the guy who like the big rough and tumble, play hurt type of QB, not the pretty boy from Draper Utah. Is it scheme? Is it the tape? I want nothing more then Wilson to succeed but I’m nervous how this all turns out. Help me out If there is one team that does a better job than the Jets of developing QBs, it's the Bears. Especially with all those 1st round draft picks they've had the last 4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 I liked Fields alot. However the NFL has told this past weekend that he was the QB4 in this draft and was not drafted in the top 10. That conversation has been put to bed until it gets revisited in few years. SF, Carolina and Denver literally just passed on him. How does that not mean more then these trash analyst? Moving Forward I absolutely hate the position Fields is in. Bad Front office. Bad coaches that just ruined another QB. The Talent is aging there and they are going to need a LT and new WR1 next year. Then hes looking at a new offensive coordinator/HC when those guys get fired in a year or 2. I would have loved for Fields to go to Denver or Carolina. He deserved a better situation than Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 31 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: I’m curious. I’m fully supportive of Wilson, moving forward. He’s a Jet now and that’s all that matters but reading draft grades I need reassurance. Reading Pete Prisco and many others, there seems to be a theme that many feel Fields will turn out to be then second best QB in the draft. I was also high on Fields and skeptical of Wilson due to the cupcake schedule. That said he has amazing arm talent and fits our scheme. So my question is what exactly did JD fall in love with? Is it just raw talent. JD always struck me as the guy who like the big rough and tumble, play hurt type of QB, not the pretty boy from Draper Utah. Is it scheme? Is it the tape? I want nothing more then Wilson to succeed but I’m nervous how this all turns out. Help me out Personally I wanted Fields but there is no denying the arm talent of Wilson. As you said, he is a Jet and I am fully on board with him as I am with Moore as much as I disliked the pick. What is done is done. Time to get behind these guys and support them as fans, not question them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Shockwave said: I liked Fields alot. However the NFL has told this past weekend that he was the QB4 in this draft and was not drafted in the top 10. That conversation has been put to bed until it gets revisited in few years. SF, Carolina and Denver literally just passed on him. How does that not mean more then these trash analyst? Moving Forward I absolutely hate the position Fields is in. Bad Front office. Bad coaches that just ruined another QB. The Talent is aging there and they are going to need a LT and new WR1 next year. Then hes looking at a new offensive coordinator/HC when those guys get fired in a year or 2. I would have loved for Fields to go to Denver or Carolina. He deserved a better situation than Chicago. Lamar Jackson went 32 Teams passing on a guy does not prove anything 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 28 minutes ago, Biggs said: Yet Fields fell out of the top 10. Apparently the many people weren’t QB needy teams drafting in the top 10. The 9ers screwed up taking Lance at 3. That whole pick was a disaster start to finish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 minute ago, More Cowbell said: The 9ers screwed up taking Lance at 3. That whole pick was a disaster start to finish. Very possibly. But Josh Allen has pretty much given them a three year probationary period on that pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 38 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: I’m curious. I’m fully supportive of Wilson, moving forward. He’s a Jet now and that’s all that matters but reading draft grades I need reassurance. Reading Pete Prisco and many others, there seems to be a theme that many feel Fields will turn out to be then second best QB in the draft. I was also high on Fields and skeptical of Wilson due to the cupcake schedule. That said he has amazing arm talent and fits our scheme. So my question is what exactly did JD fall in love with? Is it just raw talent. JD always struck me as the guy who like the big rough and tumble, play hurt type of QB, not the pretty boy from Draper Utah. Is it scheme? Is it the tape? I want nothing more then Wilson to succeed but I’m nervous how this all turns out. Help me out No offense but I stopped reading here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 I don’t get the whole Fields v Wilson. Lance went 3rd and Carolina and Denver passed on him too. Wouldn’t it be Wilson v Lance ? They were the ones taken back to back. Or v the whole field of QBs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, DoubleDown said: The skills Wilson showed during the 2020 college season translate very well to the NFL. When you study the tape, it is littered with tight window throws, aggressive decisions while still taking care of the football, going through progressions, good pocket movement, good mobility, looking off defenders, snaps from under center, and a strong arm. From everything I have read, he lives and breathes football and is dedicated to mastering his craft. Simply put, he checks alot of boxes. See, this is where I think people are drinking the Kool Aide. He was throwing against WAC db's. Now he is going to be throwing against guys like Patrick Peterson. He is not going to have the same success as college. Yes, he is a very accurate deep ball thrower and that is going to serve him well but if he keeps Taki g deep shots into tight windows in the NFL, you will see the ball get picked off. Nobody does that consistently, not even Roger's. I hope guys get separation and he gets a good amount of easy throws or we might see a pretty high pick rate this season 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 41 minutes ago, Tranquilo said: Tape and retention. And he's a romantic. That smile man! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 I'm not in love So don't forget it It's just a silly phase I'm going through And just because I call you up Don't get me wrong Don't think you've got it made I'm not in love, no no It's because... I like to see you But then again That doesn't mean you mean that much to me So if I call you Don't make a fuss Don't tell your friends about "the two of us" I'm not in love, no no It's because... I keep your picture Upon the wall It hides a nasty stain that's lying there So don't you ask me To give it back I know you know it doesn't mean that much to me I'm not in love, no no It's because... Ooh, you'll wait a long time for me Ooh, you'll wait a long time Ooh, you'll wait a long time for me Ooh, you'll wait a long time I'm not in love So don't forget it It's just a silly phase I'm going through And just because I call you up Don't get me wrong Don't think you've got it made I'm not in love I'm not in love Big boys don't cry, big boys don't cry OK, that was fun, my dog has to pee. Later. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInPA Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Pete Prisco is wrong all the time so if he says something believe the opposite. I stopped reading him years ago. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 35 minutes ago, bitonti said: Lamar Jackson went 32 Teams passing on a guy does not prove anything Ask Brady or Montana.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, JetsFanInPA said: Pete Prisco is wrong all the time so if he says something believe the opposite. I stopped reading him years ago. Priscilla may have once been a Jets fan but no longer. Always craps on us. Not fair or balanced regarding Jets football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Blue eyes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 31 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: The 9ers screwed up taking Lance at 3. That whole pick was a disaster start to finish. I don't like the pick at 3. The reality is that still doesn't justify Fields at 2 or 3 or Mac Jones going 15. What were starting to see is position value pushing QB's up draft boards not down. There's a lot of arguments that Pitts was the best player period in this draft. There's also an argument that with 5 year slotting paying a TE top 5 money over a QB that you think can make it is insane. No question that Lawrence was the top pick based on his positional value. I still doubt Lawrence was rated a better prospect than Pitts. Zach Wilson is probably a top 4 prospect and went 2 because of positional value. Fields and Mac Jones may end up being better than Lawrence or Wilson. Davis Mills or Mond may be the two best QB's in this class. There is clearly consensus by NFL GM's that even with an overweight draft bias in taking QB's because of positional value, both Fields and Mac Jones aren't top 10 picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 45 minutes ago, bitonti said: Lamar Jackson went 32 Teams passing on a guy does not prove anything It doesn't prove they can't make it or won't be great. It does prove that their is a consensus by NFL GM's that they aren't as good a prospect as other guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 51 minutes ago, bitonti said: Lamar Jackson went 32 Teams passing on a guy does not prove anything As mentioned in the post you responded to is: at the time of the draft Justin Field was the QB4 on NFL front offices boards and was passed on by several teams that needed a QB. It does not mean he won't succeed by any means whatsoever(I hope he blows up). But damn did he land in the worst spot for a QB. Absolutely horrible location for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 hour ago, jetblue95 said: fields was the 4th QB taken and was passed on by multiple QB-needy teams. but pete prisco and others... SF also fully intends to not start tray lance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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