HawkeyeJet Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, TeddEY said: Islanders are a wild card with geography because they’ve only been around since 72. This is an interesting tidbit. I had no idea they were that "new". Lead me down a bit if a rabbit hole about the NHL as I basically only watch casually during the playoffs and no other time. The Islanders are young in terms of real time, but the NHL as a whole is incredibly young. Shocked me to see teams like Edmonton, Calgary and Winnipeg(original version) were only around from the late 70s. Did not expect that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Just now, TeddEY said: I’m not a huge NBA guy, but stories of its demise are overstated and typically from people hoping for it for political reasons. Now go look at the viewership of a Hornets/Magic game and we'll talk. I'm not an NBA guy either but I certainly used to be. I never said it was going to fold or stop operating, or even should, but it SHOULD be more popular than it is and have larger viewership than it currently does, it doesnt. Speculate however you like as to why. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, JTJet said: People just dont give a sh*t about the NBA anymore Wrong again. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Bronx said: Wrong again. Good talk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZachEY Posted May 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 minute ago, JTJet said: Now go look at the viewership of a Hornets/Magic game and we'll talk. I'm not an NBA guy either but I certainly used to be. I never said it was going to fold or stop operating, or even should, but it SHOULD be more popular than it is and have larger viewership than it currently does, it doesnt. Speculate however you like as to why. It’s overall tv decline is in parallel with the other non-NFL sports. I think it’s a generational thing involving ways of consuming media and less free time in the target demos. The best thing the NFL has going for it with TV is you only need to commit 3.5 hours a week to your team, and it’s typically on a Sunday. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be_a_Jet Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, JTJet said: Now go look at the viewership of a Hornets/Magic game and we'll talk. I'm not an NBA guy either but I certainly used to be. I never said it was going to fold or stop operating, or even should, but it SHOULD be more popular than it is and have larger viewership than it currently does, it doesnt. Speculate however you like as to why. You straight lying that you used to be a true NBA fan lmao. Could already tell what type of fan you were so no worries lol. You wish the NBA was hurtin don’t lie we know the truth my guy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Basketball is boring people only care about 7 or so teams, and NBA players are insufferable douchebags that make Soccer players look tough. ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 College basketball is tremendous. The NBA is purely awful on so many fronts. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Just now, Be_a_Jet said: You straight lying that you used to be a true NBA fan lmao. Could already tell what type of fan you were so no worries lol. You wish the NBA was hurtin don’t lie we know the truth my guy Am I straight lyin homie? Dawg? Have anything of substance to add in regards to the ratings? No? Why? Oh, it's because theres nothing you can read anywhere that says viewership is up. Even before all 2020 threw in the way. What even constitutes a "true" NBA fan? Get outta here with that nonsense. I watched Pacers games up until Miller retired, then completely lost interest. Why? Maybe because small market teams in the NBA struggle immensely and makes it less entertaining. Small markets are just farm teams for the top teams now. It didnt used to be like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 33 minutes ago, JTJet said: I'm talking about total viewership ratings, not tv. They track them all. I was confused. The article you linked to support your point is talking about TV ratings so I just assumed you were too. All platform viewership and engagements are tracked to a certain extent, that is true. There is no such thing as "total viewership" however where those cross platform numbers are rolled into 1 neat and tidy package. The NBA leads all pro sports in digital views. Maybe the USA has little to no contribution to that, but that seems far fetched. Believe what you want, it's not important one way or the other, and I have zero skin in the game because I'm far from a huge NBA fan. That said I don't think you are as educated on the nuances of the subject as you think. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: I was confused. The article you linked to support your point is talking about TV ratings so I just assumed you were too. All platform viewership and engagements are tracked to a certain extent, that is true. There is no such thing as "total viewership" however where those cross platform numbers are rolled into 1 neat and tidy package. The NBA leads all pro sports in digital views. Maybe the USA has little to no contribution to that, but that seems far fetched. Believe what you want, it's not important one way or the other, and I have zero skin in the game because I'm far from a huge NBA fan. That said I don't think you are as educated on the nuances of the subject as you think. I used it as a reference. Nobody has brought a single verifiable source on the NBAs viewership being up in any capacity, even prior to the excuse of 2020... because you cant find it. It did not happen. Edit: I'm talking overall viewership. You can throw a rock into the internet and hit 10,000 articles from any number of sources about their viewership being down every year for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZachEY Posted May 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2021 https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/nba-social-media-video-views-tv-ratings Report: NBA season sets digital media records amid TV slump Basketball league sees total video views for 2019/20 climb 17% to 20bn. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be_a_Jet Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, JTJet said: Am I straight lyin homie? Dawg? Have anything of substance to add in regards to the ratings? No? Why? Oh, it's because theres nothing you can read anywhere that says viewership is up. Even before all 2020 threw in the way. What even constitutes a "true" NBA fan? Get outta here with that nonsense. I watched Pacers games up until Miller retired, then completely lost interest. Why? Maybe because small market teams in the NBA struggle immensely and makes it less entertaining. Small markets are just farm teams for the top teams now. It didnt used to be like that. Lotta energy, I love it. Coulda guessed you were a Pacers fan tbh. If you stayed a Jets fan through their garbage in a big market , The Pacers have been way more entertaining so I don’t see your point. Pacers have had really great players and comparatively been way more competitive than the Jets. You got Utah, Phoenix and Denver leading the West. You see what you want to see homie! It’s okay, don’t worry!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, Be_a_Jet said: Lotta energy, I love it. Coulda guessed you were a Pacers fan tbh. If you stayed a Jets fan through their garbage in a big market , The Pacers have been way more entertaining so I don’t see your point. Pacers have had really great players and comparatively been way more competitive than the Jets. You got Utah, Phoenix and Denver leading the West. You see what you want to see homie! It’s okay, don’t worry!! I love how you left out my boys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be_a_Jet Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: I love how you left out my boys Dame has to be top 3 most likeable players and that team as well. That’s my bad. Love the blazers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 NBA is by far my least favorite of the big 4 sports but its foolish to think they aren't making huge money. They are drawing close with MLB as time passes and generations change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Interesting it’s isles and not nets or knicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmhertz Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 7 hours ago, Dcat said: 6'2"? Hmm 6'2 1/8'' taller than Farve, Mahomes and Rodgers. more solidly put together than all three and you can add to them skinny malink Lawrence and fatso Mac Jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 8 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said: I was confused. The article you linked to support your point is talking about TV ratings so I just assumed you were too. All platform viewership and engagements are tracked to a certain extent, that is true. There is no such thing as "total viewership" however where those cross platform numbers are rolled into 1 neat and tidy package. The NBA leads all pro sports in digital views. Maybe the USA has little to no contribution to that, but that seems far fetched. Believe what you want, it's not important one way or the other, and I have zero skin in the game because I'm far from a huge NBA fan. That said I don't think you are as educated on the nuances of the subject as you think. You'll never get through to him bc there is an obvious agenda. The biggest issues for the NBA ratings is that it's on TNT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 11 hours ago, The Crusher said: Zach looks like he belongs there. Honestly would never have believed it. Good for him. Everyone loves him. He hasn’t taken a snap yet. What could go wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 14 hours ago, jetsrule128 said: Zach Wilson and mike white hanging out where’s James Morgan ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 13 hours ago, JTJet said: I would say 75% of America doesnt give a sh*t about basketball anymore. There are still a lot more basketball fans In America than hockey fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 11 hours ago, TeddEY said: Islanders are a wild card with geography because they’ve only been around since 72. Exactly. I was a hockey fan because of my father, a Ranger fan before the islanders were founded. I have cousins in the same boat but they lived in LI while I was in Brooklyn. I remained a Ranger fan they adopted the Islanders. A Mets fan because my father was a huge Dodger fan who hated the Yankees. So I was Jets, Mets, Rangers, Knicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 55 minutes ago, Lizard King said: Everyone loves him. He hasn’t taken a snap yet. What could go wrong. I honestly thought football was going to be the easy part for him. We will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bgivs21 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 10 hours ago, TeddEY said: https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/nba-social-media-video-views-tv-ratings Report: NBA season sets digital media records amid TV slump Basketball league sees total video views for 2019/20 climb 17% to 20bn. Thats "video views". So that's mostly people watching clips on Twitter, Instagram, Youtube etc. It's not people watching full games though so it's a little misleading. I'm no NBA fan but I have found myself watching a bunch of clips on Instagram. What does this mean for the NBA? Who knows but there are most certainly less people investing time to watch the game as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Basketball is healthy because the demographics are what you want in a sport, young men who will spend and stay with the NBA. This younger fanbase will access the games beyond the normal TV viewership, I'd bet digital media viewership is much higher than with the other major sports. So the reliance on TV numbers to prove or disprove of the leagues popularity is wrong. The NBA isnt the NFL and never will be but its not losing popularity, its gaining it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 This means something and I’m excited!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 So my takeaway is that if Zach attends a hockey game in May, the NBA will disavow any knowledge of China taking part in covert basketball games thus creating an insurgency that will overthrow the current chief of state allowing for the NBA to broadcast its propaganda to the ignorant misguided masses of Rangers fans seeking Zach's autograph ???Am I caught up on this thread now ?Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 10 hours ago, Be_a_Jet said: Dame has to be top 3 most likeable players and that team as well. That’s my bad. Love the blazers Enjoyed the win last night against a really tough Nuggets team. Just need 3 more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 15 hours ago, Lith said: Speaking for myself, I grew up in the late 60s/70s on Long Island. My parents were not big sports fans -- they took me to see the Mets and Jets becasue it was more convenient than a trip to the Bronx. Mets/Jets became my teams. And until 72, the Rangers were the only team in town. Rooted for both teams for the first couple of seasons after the Isles were formed. But as I went to more and more Isles games in an arena that was 20 minutes from home. And for $3 a ticket. (Nets were the cheap ticket at $2.75). The isles became my team. Grew up in Smithtown. Graduated HS in 85. Friends dad knew Bobby nystrom. Really felt like our guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 13 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said: TV viewership. NBA's TV ratings are in decline(like most other sports). That doesn't mean it's losing popularity. I'm not an NBA guy by any stretch, but the average NBA fan isn't the 47 year old from Albany who still consumes all of their TV through the traditional measures. The NBA has a massive social media following. People consume media in so many ways that TV ratings are just a small slice of the pie. The NBA's popularity has decreased pretty dramatically from the peak Jordan era. Granted they have a massie TV contract propping them up and will probably get another- but the actual eyeballs are down a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said: So I was Jets, Mets, Rangers, Knicks. So, this is why we’re both miserable? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, JiFapono said: This means something and I’m excited!!!! Overall no, but for me? I really thought he would be that dude standing in the corner looking at his team mates with that “ Toto we aren’t in Kansas anymore !” Look. Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, bgivs21 said: Thats "video views". So that's mostly people watching clips on Twitter, Instagram, Youtube etc. It's not people watching full games though so it's a little misleading. I'm no NBA fan but I have found myself watching a bunch of clips on Instagram. What does this mean for the NBA? Who knows but there are most certainly less people investing time to watch the game as a whole. I don’t think anyone was saying it was full games. More so that watching full games on tv is no longer the only, or preferred option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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