PFFs top 10 safeties, Maye > Jamal

[Rhg1084]

damn who woulda thought 

[Team archer]

Pay da man

[Jet Nut]

So theyre not separating FS from SS?

Interesting. 

[MindOverMatter]

But but but... Jamal set the record for most sacks in a season for a safety!!!! And his dancing and bravado makes me feel all tingly down by my boxer shorts, that has to be worth at least the #6 spot.

[MindOverMatter]

3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

So theyre not separating FS from SS?

Interesting. 

Good point they definitely should. But still Harrison, James, and potentially Maye would all be ranked higher.

[Rhg1084]

1 minute ago, MindOverMatter said:

Good point they definitely should. But still Harrison, James, and potentially Maye would all be ranked higher.

James is interesting cause he’s playing like 21/48 games in his career, obviously PFF still thinks very highly of him 

[Barry McCockinner]

[Jet Nut]

14 minutes ago, MindOverMatter said:

Good point they definitely should. But still Harrison, James, and potentially Maye would all be ranked higher.

Honestly, I dont pay enough attention to PPF, especially S rankings, to know what their criteria is. Maye and Adams are nowhere near the same type players, dont know how you use a number ranking system to compare them.

[Jimmy 2 Times]

32 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

damn who woulda thought 

Big Mac had one helluva draft!  

Two top ten players???

[JetNation]

In a bit of off-season player grading, the folks over at PFF have shown quite a bit of love to Jets safety Marcus Maye in grading the top players at the position in the NFL.

The top- safeties in the NFL, per @PFF_Sam

How do you think he did? pic.twitter.com/9r6uDeqhpR

— PFF (@PFF) June 1, 2021

 

Maye was named the 7th best safety in the league behind Derwin James, Minkah Fitzpatrick, Marcus Williams, John Johnson, Harrison Smith and Justin Simmons.

Interestingly enough, Maye came in a couple of spots ahead of former teammate Jamal Adams who is listed as a safety, but who does his best work as an extra pass rusher up front.  In coverage, Adams leaves a bit to be desired.  In fact, through four pro seasons, Adams is still yet to pick up an interception while facing a starting NFL quarterback.

Meanwhile, Maye has six interceptions despite entering the league at the same time.  Currently signed to a one-year franchise deal, the Jets are reportedly looking to work out a long-term deal with Maye.

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[Jetsfan80]

Of course Maye was better.  Jamal Adams gave up 9.1 yards per target.  50th worst in the NFL.  Maye only allowed 6.2 yards per target, 56th BEST in the league.  And despite Adams playing in the box/blitzing so often, he had less Forced Fumbles (1) than Maye did (2).  Maye also had 2 INTs and 11 PD's to Adams' 0 INT's and 3 PDs.

The only thing Adams had on Maye last season was a bunch of empty sacks.  Sacks which required 98 blitz attempts to accumulate.  Maye had just 2 sacks, but it only required 23 blitz attempts to get them.  That's a pretty close ratio (Maye got a sack on 8.7 % of blitz attempts, Adams on 9.7 %).  I bet if Maye was asked to blitz as often as Adams did (because Adams literally can't do anything else well), Maye would have ended up with 8 or 9 sacks.  

Jamal Adams sucks.  

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

I am shocked to sh*te that any list has a Jet in the top 10. 

[Jetsfan80]

33 minutes ago, JetNation said:

In fact, through four pro seasons, Adams is still yet to pick up an interception while facing a starting NFL quarterback.

 

And yet some here still call Jamal Adams a lock future HOFer.  

And by some, I mean @Pac, @bitonti and @Defense Wins Championships.

Let's all point and laugh at them.

[Savage69]

1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

And yet some here still call Jamal Adams a lock future HOFer.  

And by some, I mean @Pac and @bitonti.

Let's all point and laugh at them.

You gave DWC a pass???

[Rhg1084]

2 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

I am shocked to sh*te that any list has a Jet in the top 10. 

Quinnen is a top 10 IDL, Becton is probably close to a top 10 LT. Crowder might be a top 10 slot WR 

[sourceworx]

One intercepts passes on occasion. The other claps his hands a lot.

[Beerfish]

I hearken to two games last year where all the jet fans were marvelling at Harvey Langi for all the plays he was making out of no where and it was simply Gregg Williams playing him like Jamal is played, zero responsibility other than poaching the line of scrimmage.

 

[Jetsfan80]

5 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

I hearken to two games last year where all the jet fans were marvelling at Harvey Langi for all the plays he was making out of no where and it was simply Gregg Williams playing him like Jamal is played, zero responsibility other than poaching the line of scrimmage.

Yep.  Langi isn't as good at that one skillset as Adams, but he isn't going to get hurt as often, and considering the cost of each, who cares?  Langi - UDFA.  Jamal Adams - # 6 overall pick, traded for two 1sts & a 3rd, seeking $18M+ per year in his contract.

[Larz]

Awesome!  Enjoy Mayes last season here lol

[ToonforPrez]

Quote

 

[David Harris]

3 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

damn who woulda thought 

Well he is getting paid more ? 

[Joe W. Namath]

So Joe Douglas got 2 firsts for the 10th best safety in the league.  Hahahahahahaha.

Thank you Joe Douglas.  Thank you!!

[The Crusher]

4 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

damn who woulda thought 

 

[The Crusher]

2 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

I am shocked to sh*te that any list has a Jet in the top 10. 

This is the surprising part. 

[Defense Wins Championships]

Heck. 

If Marcus Maye can earn a Pro Bowl selection + 2021 1st-team All-Pro honors here in 2021?

I'll gladly take in return another two 1st round draft picks + a 3rd round draft pick (in exchange for a 4th) for the services of Marcus Maye ala "just a Safety".

So far we've turned Jamal Adams into Vera-Tucker (LG).

And with one more Seattle 1st round pick, I hope we also turn #33 into either Kayvon Thibodeaux (4-3 DE Pass Rusher) or Derek Stingley Jr. (Blue Chip CB prospect). 

With Marcus Maye? 

I'd love to flip him into one of either Evan Neal (OT, Alabama) in order to create a 1st round trio for Wilson in Becton (OT, 2020), Vera-Tucker (2021) and Evan Neal (2022) ala a Joe Douglas built offensive line. 

(Although a little too early to discuss 2023's 1st round pick in return for Maye). 

?

 

[GreenFish]

Usually players mail it in after getting that first contract. Someone should Jamal that he was only traded and Seattle hasn’t extended him yet.

[GreenFish]

1 hour ago, ToonforPrez said:

Man this gif sums up my reaction perfectly. Nice fine. Hilarious.

[Joe W. Namath]

5 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

Heck. 

If Marcus Maye can earn a Pro Bowl selection + 2021 1st-team All-Pro honors here in 2021?

I'll gladly take in return another two 1st round draft picks + a 3rd round draft pick (in exchange for a 4th) for the services of Marcus Maye ala "just a Safety".

So far we've turned Jamal Adams into Vera-Tucker (LG).

And with one more Seattle 1st round pick, I hope we also turn #33 into either Kayvon Thibodeaux (4-3 DE Pass Rusher) or Derek Stingley Jr. (Blue Chip CB prospect). 

With Marcus Maye? 

I'd love to flip him into one of either Evan Neal (OT, Alabama) in order to create a 1st round trio for Wilson in Becton (OT, 2020), Vera-Tucker (2021) and Evan Neal (2022) ala a Joe Douglas built offensive line. 

(Although a little too early to discuss 2023's 1st round pick in return for Maye). 

?

 

If he has a good season then franchise him again next year.  There is no way joe d is paying big money to an aging safety he didnt draft.  But ill sure as heck keep him here another year w/o a commitment.

Joe D is doing everything right.  Its really amazing.

[Reynolds1029]

18 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

Usually players mail it in after getting that first contract. Someone should Jamal that he was only traded and Seattle hasn’t extended him yet.

He already got paid by being picked 6th overall. He played what he was worth when he was here. No more no less. 

[jetsons]

4 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

damn who woulda thought 

Those Chargers unis are on Fire. 

[pointman]

4 hours ago, MindOverMatter said:

But but but... Jamal set the record for most sacks in a season for a safety!!!! And his dancing and bravado makes me feel all tingly down by my boxer shorts, that has to be worth at least the #6 spot.

Get checked for the clap.

[pointman]

That article is one of the most delicious things I have ever ingested. 

[Defense Wins Championships]

6 minutes ago, Reynolds1029 said:

He already got paid by being picked 6th overall. He played what he was worth when he was here. No more no less. 

Not like he took his $ and ran into bust status.

Only 4 years in the league? 

Already 3 Pro Bowl Selections by the fans?

Already 3 All-Pro honors by the professional Sports writers?

But yet treated like Blair Thomas, Kyle Brady, Anthony Becht, Bryan Thomas, VERNON GHOLSTON, Kyle Wilson, Quinton Coples, Dee Milliner, Calvin Pryor (Louisville Slugger ⚾ name despite playing, football), Darron Lee and Sam Darnold etc heck not even Sheldon Richardson could hold Adams jock-strap on the field (as a JET). 

But yet you're mocked by this fan base for not absolutely crapping on Jamal Adams. 

It's disgusting. 

Damn. I wish all of Jets draft picks turned out like Jamal Adams (on the Football field, that is) because if so? At the worst we'd have been flipping all 12 of those former 1st round picks into...

Absolute HAULS. 

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

Heck. 

If Marcus Maye can earn a Pro Bowl selection + 2021 1st-team All-Pro honors here in 2021?

I'll gladly take in return another two 1st round draft picks + a 3rd round draft pick (in exchange for a 4th) for the services of Marcus Maye ala "just a Safety".

So far we've turned Jamal Adams into Vera-Tucker (LG).

And with one more Seattle 1st round pick, I hope we also turn #33 into either Kayvon Thibodeaux (4-3 DE Pass Rusher) or Derek Stingley Jr. (Blue Chip CB prospect). 

With Marcus Maye? 

I'd love to flip him into one of either Evan Neal (OT, Alabama) in order to create a 1st round trio for Wilson in Becton (OT, 2020), Vera-Tucker (2021) and Evan Neal (2022) ala a Joe Douglas built offensive line. 

(Although a little too early to discuss 2023's 1st round pick in return for Maye). 

?

 

Marcus Maye couldn’t dream of marketing himself like Jamal. Except Jamal started to believe his own hype, forced himself out of town as well as a nice payday with the Jets,  so Jets  got a premium haul of picks for him and Jamal has yet to get paid. That in no way or no how lessens Marcus Mayes value to the Jets as a player, maybe as a circus  like attraction like Jamal , but certainly not a player. Jamal Adams is an overhyped box safety that literally brings nothing to a defense except clapping and sacks that are strictly a function of him free running to the QB. 

[The Crusher]

35 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

Not like he took his $ and ran into bust status.

Only 4 years in the league? 

Already 3 Pro Bowl Selections by the fans?

Already 3 All-Pro honors by the professional Sports writers?

But yet treated like Blair Thomas, Kyle Brady, Anthony Becht, Bryan Thomas, VERNON GHOLSTON, Kyle Wilson, Quinton Coples, Dee Milliner, Calvin Pryor (Louisville Slugger ⚾ name despite playing, football), Darron Lee and Sam Darnold etc heck not even Sheldon Richardson could hold Adams jock-strap on the field (as a JET). 

But yet you're mocked by this fan base for not absolutely crapping on Jamal Adams. 

It's disgusting. 

Damn. I wish all of Jets draft picks turned out like Jamal Adams (on the Football field, that is) because if so? At the worst we'd have been flipping all 12 of those former 1st round picks into...

Absolute HAULS. 

He’s popular and well marketed that’s it. Got everyone fooled. That’ll change soon. Announcers started working way too hard to think of nice things to say by end of season.