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1 hour ago, JiFapono said:

Phenom?  Wtf?  Lol.  Good talk.  I win again 


Game-changer, future HOFer, whatever silly thing you’ve called him before and still call him.  Take your pick!

Just take the L my man. You admitted you were wrong once about Jamal.  You can do it one more time!

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8 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:


Game-changer, future HOFer, whatever silly thing you’ve called him before and still call him.  Take your pick!

Just take the L my man. You admitted you were wrong once about Jamal.  You can do it one more time!

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On 6/7/2021 at 6:31 PM, Jetsfan80 said:

That would be sweet.  All it would take is for the average of the top 5 safety salaries to drop a bit between now and when the Seahawks tag Adams. 

Always a possibility considering I don't think there are any Safeties out there right with expiring contracts coming up who are going to re-set the market.

he is a thugturd.

Locker room lawyer and cancer. a Me first player, not a team guy.

NO WAY this staff lets him even take a dump in Florhams crappers

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12 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:


Game-changer, future HOFer, whatever silly thing you’ve called him before and still call him.  Take your pick!

Just take the L my man. You admitted you were wrong once about Jamal.  You can do it one more time!

He is on a future HOFer trajectory. Sacks get pro bowl votes and he’s been to three in a row... he keeps stringing those together and he’ll get there ... rightly or wrongly.

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15 minutes ago, jgb said:

He is on a future HOFer trajectory. Sacks get pro bowl votes and he’s been to three in a row... he keeps stringing those together and he’ll get there ... rightly or wrongly.

Sacks are what get him injured and will shorten his career.  Completely unsustainable method for him to try to keep playing at a high level.  He's blitzed 90+ times each of the last 2 seasons and has missed 6 games in that span.  Those 2 facts are related to each other.

At some point he needs to be what he is:  A WLB/SS who can't cover anybody.

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3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Sacks are what get him injured and will shorten his career.  Completely unsustainable method for him to try to keep playing at a high level.  He's blitzed 90+ times each of the last 2 seasons and has missed 6 games in that span.  Those 2 facts are related to each other.

At some point he needs to be what he is:  A WLB/SS who can't cover anybody.

Obviously if he can’t sustain he won’t make it fact is though he is currently in a HOF trajectory. Again not defending him or his play style but that’s how it works with fan voting in pro bowls now.

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11 minutes ago, jgb said:

Obviously if he can’t sustain he won’t make it fact is though he is currently in a HOF trajectory. Again not defending him or his play style but that’s how it works with fan voting in pro bowls now.

The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest.  It doesn't guarantee anything related to the HOF.  There are quite a few players who have been to a bunch of Pro Bowls but aren't in the Hall, or took forever to get there.  Steve Atwater went to 8 and Cliff Harris went to 6 straight from 1974-79 and both only just got inducted in 2020.  Steve Wisniewski went to 8.  Robert Brazile, Ed Budde and Steve Tasker went to 7.  Darren Woodson, Lester Hayes, Ricky Watters and Sterling Sharpe each went to 5.  None of them are in. 

Adams isn't on a HOF path purely because of Pro Bowl selections.  And his play is not going to support that going forward if he keeps sucking in coverage or getting hurt when he blitzes.

Besides, its inevitable that Adams throws a hissy fit with his 2nd organization in a row.  How will that do for his "popularity"?

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2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest.  It doesn't guarantee anything related to the HOF.  There are quite a few players who have been to a bunch of Pro Bowls but aren't in the Hall, or took forever to get there.  Steve Atwater went to 8 and Cliff Harris went to 6 straight from 1974-79 and both only just got inducted in 2020.  Darren Woodson, Ricky Watters and Sterling Sharpe each went to 5.  None of them are in. 

Adams isn't on a HOF path purely because of Pro Bowl selections.  And his play is not going to support that going forward if he keeps sucking in coverage or getting hurt when he blitzes.

Besides, its inevitable that Adams throws a hissy fit with his 2nd organization in a row.  How will that do for his "popularity"?

Disagree. Gotta go wash. You made me defend Jamal. I feel dirty.

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9 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Sacks are what get him injured and will shorten his career.  Completely unsustainable method for him to try to keep playing at a high level.  He's blitzed 90+ times each of the last 2 seasons and has missed 6 games in that span.  Those 2 facts are related to each other.

At some point he needs to be what he is:  A WLB/SS who can't cover anybody.

Dont forget how the team's defense is when he plays - awful.  When you have to blitz  your WLB/SS it opens up holes elsewhere which hurts the defense's ability to play as a team.

The bottom line is if we wind up with AVT and a DE in next years draft for Jamal Adams - its likely the best trade in franchise history.

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Franchise tag makes sense as the most likely outcome here.  I think Seattle have probably realized that they made a massive mistake but there is no way they admit that to the world right now and walk away so soon after giving up what they gave up to get him.

We will probably hear some noises about the difficulties fitting a long term deal within their current cap situation and that they intend to use the franchise tag for a year in order to get themselves into a more advantageous position for a long-term deal.  If he sits out the whole year then they save even that money.

Year-1 of a franchise tag is painful but not immensely so for the Seahawks.

Fast forward another year and they will quietly cut him loose as someone who is not a good fit for the "new" direction that the defense is going towards (or some such).   The old "he is a great player but..." argument.

At the end of the day it is a black eye for that front office.  Maybe Jerry Jones is still interested to make an offer but everything from here in is is damage control for a front office who are desperately trying to not look they have made several firing offenses in a row.

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6 hours ago, The Crusher said:

Eventually all the ball washing by the announcers will stop and they will start calling it how it actually is. I mean if they watch their own broadcast they would have to realize how hard they try to steer towards  his energy , effort and hype. Then realize how they all of the sudden go mute when he pulls up on a tackle because he’s hurt or gets burned badly in pass coverage. That’s why Jamal is keeping quiet right now, he’s no dummy, it’s one thing to sh*t  on the lowly Jets but he knows as well as anyone crapping on his second  team will lift that veil. He’s a lot of things, dumb? Not one of them: 

Yep.  If he ever wants to get paid close to what he demands he'll have to be a good soldier.  No 3rd team out there is going to pay a malcontent who only gets empty sacks (and gets hurt the more he tries to get sacks).  

We'll see how long that quietness lasts though.  He's a petulant child and narcissist, and those true colors are always going to come out the longer he has to wait to get what he wants.  It just might be through his agent / back channels this time rather than just his twitter account.

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31 minutes ago, flgreen said:

Unfortunately for Adams, NFL player salaries are mostly constrained by position. Adams easily being the NFL's best pass-rushing defensive back probably isn't enough to convince the Seahawks he shouldn't be paid like a safety.

Jamie, you were drafted and traded as a safety (even though everyone knows that you blow at coverage).  Seahawks are going to win this bout. You could have been a Jet 4 life with Saleh on board and with some passionate fans by your side. Your greediness and narcissist ego got you in this situation.  Your loss there missy and our gain...biatch.

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9 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

He'll back down and take what they offer.  For all the bravado he is weak and will bleat about him taking less to stay his beloved seahawks.  This is all very predictable,

Also weed's legal in Washington.

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6 hours ago, Beerfish said:

He'll back down and take what they offer.  For all the bravado he is weak and will bleat about him taking less to stay his beloved seahawks.  This is all very predictable,

I dunno man.  We’ll see.  Narcissists rarely back down.  He demanded, and got, his trade to try to get exactly as much as he thinks he’s worth.  And by getting traded for so much, he and his agent know they have some leverage over Seattle.

This is going to get interesting and entertaining.

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The answer to the question in the title is very easy -  From the second the GM and Jamal sit down at the negotiating table. 

The problem is (and was ALWAYS going to be) that the GM is going to propose a contract based on what he saw during a 16 game season from Jamal Adams.  The other side doesn't want a contract for Jamal Adams, he wants a contract for The Prez! 

Ugh I LOOOOVE when Prez gets brought up! That trade wtrash f*cking amazing and it just keeps getting better for us the more time that goes by. 

Sea fans pissed sitting out the 1st rd after watching Jamal last year. Then they remembered they'll be doing it again next year too!?

THEN after spending the offseason hearing about how their FQB wants out because their oline sucks, they watch us use THEIR 1st on a stud olineman? ? ...                             ...THEN remembered about next year again! ???

THEN Sea fans get excited bc their team is trying to trade for Julio... BUT they have no draft capital because of Jamal!????

 

I can't wait to see how many ? the next stage of the Jamal Adams disaster is going to get, which is his contract. 

So, a year removed, obviously no one on the Hawks side would make this trade again. I'd bet you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that would do that trade for even just one 1st. But they made the God awful trade, so now what the hell are they going to do? Admit you screwed up BIG TIME and either let him walk or go the franchise route and do the public battle with him that the Jets were going to be in for?  OR dig your hole deeper and give him the kind of contract he wants? 

Can a GM make that trade, let him walk and keep his job? Can a GM make that trade, give him the PREZ contract he wants and keep his job?!

 

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7 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

I dunno man.  We’ll see.  Narcissists rarely back down.  He demanded, and got, his trade to try to get exactly as much as he thinks he’s worth.  And by getting traded for so much, he and his agent know they have some leverage over Seattle.

This is going to get interesting and entertaining.

He needs to get what he can and not wait till season starts. He will start losing money every game  he plays. Once the ,” Jamals energy man!” Veil is lifted it’s gonna be ugly. If he gets hurt early? He needs to take the money and run before rest of the league funds out what we already knows. 

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7 hours ago, MichaelScott said:

The answer to the question in the title is very easy -  From the second the GM and Jamal sit down at the negotiating table. 

The problem is (and was ALWAYS going to be) that the GM is going to propose a contract based on what he saw during a 16 game season from Jamal Adams.  The other side doesn't want a contract for Jamal Adams, he wants a contract for The Prez! 

Ugh I LOOOOVE when Prez gets brought up! That trade wtrash f*cking amazing and it just keeps getting better for us the more time that goes by. 

Sea fans pissed sitting out the 1st rd after watching Jamal last year. Then they remembered they'll be doing it again next year too!?

THEN after spending the offseason hearing about how their FQB wants out because their oline sucks, they watch us use THEIR 1st on a stud olineman? ? ...                             ...THEN remembered about next year again! ???

THEN Sea fans get excited bc their team is trying to trade for Julio... BUT they have no draft capital because of Jamal!????

 

I can't wait to see how many ? the next stage of the Jamal Adams disaster is going to get, which is his contract. 

So, a year removed, obviously no one on the Hawks side would make this trade again. I'd bet you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that would do that trade for even just one 1st. But they made the God awful trade, so now what the hell are they going to do? Admit you screwed up BIG TIME and either let him walk or go the franchise route and do the public battle with him that the Jets were going to be in for?  OR dig your hole deeper and give him the kind of contract he wants? 

Can a GM make that trade, let him walk and keep his job? Can a GM make that trade, give him the PREZ contract he wants and keep his job?!

 


The GM who made the trade just got an extension this offseason.  ?

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