**Jets Minicamp 6/15**

[Jets Voice of Reason]

2 hours ago, Paradis said:

Honestly I wouldn’t get too hung up on it. We’ve been lucky in recent years to be 2 deep at WR… for so long that everyone is reading WAY TOO MUCH into the pecking order. Until someone blows up (and even then to an extent) these guys are going to be rotating in and out. Balls in SF were spread around, same as they will here. Let’s just sit back, let them compete, and watch the offense develop for now 

When our 2s beat the 1s last year that was a rightful reason to panic. But getting worried over minicamp? Sheesh. 

To me this is a good thing, Mims shouldn’t just assume the starting job is his, he’s got to stay healthy and keep progressing. Competition is a good thing. 

[Scoop24]

 

 

[Scoop24]

 

 

 

[Rhg1084]

27 minutes ago, Scoop24 said:

 

 

 

Man I almost feel bad for Mekhi all they keep asking him is questions about his weight. Everyone knows he’s a planet! Let him be and dominate 

[JohnnyLV]

38 minutes ago, Scoop24 said:

 

 

 

Yeah the highlights clearly to point to how "bad" Zach was. God I hate our beatwriters.

[fullblast]

I'm actually relieved to hear the D forced a couple of picks. Like Zach is cool but how about some decent secondary play?

[kdels62]

2 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Mims caught a td today so that was encouraging.

Saleh and Lafleur have sent a loud and clear message to Mims.  Mims now has 6 weeks to get his act together and come to camp with a fire under his ass and win that #2 receiving job.  With his size and speed, it would be a total disappointment if he ends up the 4th/5th receiver on this team.

Eh it’s more my lack of enthusiasm for Mims in the pre-draft process and my affection for Moore during this year’s predraft.

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, Scoop24 said:

 

 

 

Becton’s weight is at a good place but he has no idea what that place is? Starts with S and ends with oft.

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, Scoop24 said:

 

 

 

Crowder is a solid dude and a very good player. Lucky to have him. 

[GreenFish]

Mekhi’s face looks more “plump” than last year. He’s up there in weight for sure. Glad he got a chef. Sounds like he’ll get this under control.

[Jetpain]

7 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

9 ints on day 1!

will Dolphins extra draft picks be used for Deshaun or Rodgers ?  Tua was doomed as soon as Mike  Francessa anointed him the  great one before his final college season

[GreenFish]

1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said:

Man I almost feel bad for Mekhi all they keep asking him is questions about his weight. Everyone knows he’s a planet! Let him be and dominate 

Yes and no. He’s clearly a young guy and maturing. If he were my son, I’d be upset because I would want him to have space to grow and mature without all the pressure. But on the flip side, the only thing that would prevent him from being a top LT is his weight. So I’d be harassing him about it as well.

[DepressedJetsFan23]

52 minutes ago, Jetpain said:

will Dolphins extra draft picks be used for Deshaun or Rodgers ?  Tua was doomed as soon as Mike  Francessa anointed him the  great one before his final college season

“Herbert isn’t even in the same league as tuar”

 

[Barry McCockinner]

2 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

Man I almost feel bad for Mekhi all they keep asking him is questions about his weight. Everyone knows he’s a planet! Let him be and dominate 

I would have snapped. lol. dude has a lot of patience.

[DetroitRed]

3 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

Man I almost feel bad for Mekhi all they keep asking him is questions about his weight. Everyone knows he’s a planet! Let him be and dominate 

Thought the questions were out of line. No problem if they ask him about being in shape, but what’s  with the repeated “ what do you weigh?”

[RoadFan]

6 hours ago, Paradis said:

Nobody wishes for Mims’ greatness more than myself, but you jackals need to take 5 and heed your own advice. It’s June - they just paid those two guys cheddar - they’re gonna line up with the 1s. Mims needs to stop spending time on the trainers table - but beating his man and running routes is not gonna be a problem… yeeeeesh you guys 

There was something off about Mims' college tape.  I mentioned this before, did not like his effort when he knew he wasnt getting the ball.  Something off about him.  Everyone raved about his run blocking.  I saw a guy that was effective, not great, but only when he felt like it.  I much preferred Michael Pittman's effort in everything he did.

Mims made that stupid comment about Philly being a 'dirty, trash city' right before the draft?  How dumb do you have to be to do that?!?!?

He fell in the draft for a reason.  My guesstimation?  He probably interviewed poorly and is below par between the ears.

[Rhg1084]

3 minutes ago, DetroitRed said:

Thought the questions were out of line. No problem if they ask him about being in shape, but what with the repeated “ what do you weigh?”

100% agree

[Snook]

8 hours ago, Lith said:

 

So ,  Is Mimms playing with the 1s or Zach with the 2s ?

[Paradis]

1 hour ago, RoadFan said:

There was something off about Mims' college tape. 

 

[Irish Jet]

14 hours ago, Paradis said:

Nobody wishes for Mims’ greatness more than myself, but you jackals need to take 5 and heed your own advice. It’s June - they just paid those two guys cheddar - they’re gonna line up with the 1s. Mims needs to stop spending time on the trainers table - but beating his man and running routes is not gonna be a problem… yeeeeesh you guys 

The concerns with Mims predate this camp.

[Jethead]

Physical skills - check

Mental toughness - TBD

 

[Jet Nut]

9 hours ago, RoadFan said:

Mims made that stupid comment about Philly being a 'dirty, trash city' right before the draft?  How dumb do you have to be to do that?!?!?

He made those remarks after the draft.  He had an issue with Philly   I thought 

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NY Jets minicamp notes: Denzel Mims no longer a starter? Not exactly

By

 Robby Sabo

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 06/15/2021

 

Jet X Graphic, Getty Images

 

New York Jets minicamp 2021 kicked off Tuesday with a familiar feeling that’s carried over from OTAs, and Denzel Mims is at the center.

 

FLORHAM PARK, NJ—OK, so if they signed Corey Davis as the No. 1 and Denzel Mims obviously assumes WR2, that means the third spot is up for grabs. Right?

There’s veteran Jamison Crowder, a man whose recent contract restructure places him in the mix. There’s Braxton Berrios, otherwise known as “the man catching every Zach Wilson pass.” There’s also the newly-signed Keelan Cole and rookie Elijah Moore.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 … 7? … 8?

Don’t forget about Vyncint Smith, Lawrence Cager, Josh Malone and little-known Manasseh Bailey, a former basketball player who’s currently making the most while operating out of the slot.

So many bodies, so few spots, too much confusion to even start thinking about numbers that go as high as 7 (bodies kept once the preseason concludes). Sure, this particular New York Jets wide receiver room is a deep and unproven one, making the prognostication game that much more difficult, but such a game in the first place is silly more often than not.

It’s minicamp. Depth chart confusion is a good thing, and with any luck, more confusion can turn into something great down the road.

The most recent bout of fan confusion deals with the second-year Baylor product, No. 11. Tuesday in Florham Park saw Mims look on as Moore, Berrios and Cole assumed first-team reps. This was also the case during the last media-available OTA session last week.

Therefore, some fans are understandably jumping the gun on Mims’s low stock status. Please don’t. There’s a very good reason not to: Robert Saleh and Mike LaFleur deploy an old-school mentality.

 

Along with Mims, who’s only recently returned from injury, Davis and Crowder made their respective debut Tuesday in Florham Park. Davis also returned from injury while Crowder, as previously mentioned, decided on sticking with the Jets via pay-cut.

As practice finished out its last seven-on-seven session, Mims, Davis and Crowder were all clearly visible while watching Moore, Berrios and Cole get the first call. Why? Well, because on this team, players have to earn it.

Miss time, fall behind. As simple as it sounds is as lost as it’s become in its football practice. The NFL level, courtesy of its fantasy-football-loving fans, oftentimes plugs players into specific spots entirely too early. Even real-life coaches are often found guilty of rushing a guy up the depth chart too soon.

Not Saleh. Not LaFleur. Not even when Joe Douglas spends $37.5 million on a “so-called” No. 1 wide receiver.

Granted, both Mims and Davis are returning from injury; perhaps that played into things. And this was Crowder’s first day back. Then again, Davis is the $37.5 million man, Mims is the prized second-round pick, and Crowder is the tried and tested veteran who’s already “earned” his place in the league.

It goes both ways. But it’s the old-school coach looking to drive competition that plays it day-by-day and free of assumption.

 

Labeling Denzel Mims a non-starting receiver for the Jets is beyond premature. That isn’t to say Cole has no chance of beating him out this August. But at this stage, we’re still dealing with rotation and old-school minds that require everybody to earn it.

Besides, LaFleur has been rotating his receivers, tight ends and backs constantly over the course of the last three weeks, and all three “presumed starters” heading in have seen some time with Zach Wilson and the first team.

Mims even caught a touchdown from Wilson on Tuesday—a back-shoulder flat-type-fade beauty that displayed fantastic timing.

 

Not unless Jerry Rice and John Taylor are on the field should a WR1 and WR2 be stamped in ink during the month of June.

Wilson’s up and down day

And just like that, the former No. 5 pick connects with the kid to get team sessions off to a good start. On a five-to-seven-step drop, Wilson led Davis beautifully on a dig route for a good chunk (20-plus yards).

 

A little later, a Kenny Yeboah sighting takes place as Wilson finds him down the seam against zone. The anticipation was tremendous—as Wilson threw it well before Yeboah turned his head—and the undrafted rookie timed it right.

Unfortunately, Yeboah dropped an easy one a few plays later.

 

Trevon Wesco snagged one near the right sideline and decided to turn on his truck-stick body language (in a somewhat not-so-serious way).

Wilson’s mistakes included a Brandin Echols pick-6 resulting from a forced throw to the middle of the field. Not one, but two defenders were in the area. The ball popped up and Echols took advantage.

 

All in all, it was a decent day from Wilson—neither spectacular nor terrible. Well-above average is a good way of describing it.

The young defensive DBs

Another rookie defensive back found himself in the mix Tuesday: the aforementioned Echols who featured a pick-6 on this day.

 

Practice started with somewhat of a walkthrough. Saleh was even spotted playing some quarterback, as helmets were seemingly optional. On one side opposite Bryce Hall was Jason Pinnock, and in the slot was Echols.

Michael Carter II also received his fair share of first-team reps, but Tuesday was Echols’s day.

Carl Lawson’s familiar spot

Carl Lawson assumed his familiar right defensive end spot at times during team sessions. After joining the team just last week, the Jets’ prized defensive free-agent acquisition looked good out there.

An interesting note is the idea that John Franklin-Myers is playing inside much more than out, while Vinny Curry is holding down the left-side edge for the most part.

Safety J.T. Hassell once again paired with Lamarcus Joyner at safety.

Elijah Moore continues his eye-popping play

One of the plays of the day was a Wilson to Moore 9-route resulting in a big chunk. With Bryce Hall all over him, in perfect position, Wilson found Moore’s outside shoulder near the sideline.

 

The exciting thing about this rookie is realized when understanding what’s between his ears. He’s fundamentally smart. He’s savvy. He even cares about the details.

This play popped thanks to Moore’s understanding of the position. He didn’t allow Hall to squeeze him near the sideline, which means he made sure his split/release and stem were inside enough in order to give himself space near the sideline.

 

It was this space that he used to create last-moment separation (perhaps with a bit of a soft shove) that made the throw and play possible.

Moore also caught a Wilson slant via a rub pattern with Tyler Kroft, among other highlights. The Jets have a good one with this kid.

Michael Carter’s one-handed grab

Another spectacular completion came courtesy of the rookie running back. Starting from the backfield, Michael Carter went with the wheel down the right sideline.

The rookie did the rest with just one hand.

 

Backup quarterback Mike White enjoyed a far better day than he’s previously played this spring. Here, he got the job done with the kid.

James Morgan also had a bit of magic in him on this day when he found Vyncint Smith for a bomb that resulted in a 40-plus-yard touchdown towards the end of practice.

The injured area

The injured area was loaded today.

Those separated from the team during positionals were Mekhi Becton, Lawerence Cager, Blaker Cashman, Jonathan Marshall, Daniel Brown, Chuma Edoga, Ronald Blair, Foley Fatukasi, Blessuan Austin, Tristen Hoge and Marcus Maye, the man who showed up to mandatory minicamp despite the ongoing contract negotiations.

Other notes

Unlike the previous regime, this coaching staff really executes some unique things at practice, especially concerning the special teams.

More New York Jets minicamp sights per video can be found below, including Tevin Coleman going all out for one down the left sideline:

 

LISTEN TO THE ARTICLE HERE:

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Hmmmm,

Above article didn't paste to well.  Ya have to highlight it to see the text...............Sorry, but IMO it's worth the read

[Drums]

13 hours ago, Scoop24 said:

 

 

 

I didn't realize just how much of a leader GVR is. Sounds like he was the mastermind behind the Islanders get togethers. I know some have said he started playing better the latter part of the season. It would be awesome if he won the starting job and played well. 

[#27TheDominator]

51 minutes ago, Drums said:

I didn't realize just how much of a leader GVR is. Sounds like he was the mastermind behind the Islanders get togethers. I know some have said he started playing better the latter part of the season. It would be awesome if he won the starting job and played well. 

Leader and mastermind might be a bit much.  He is probably just an Islanders fan.  He is a Long Island boy from Rockville Centre and went to Chaminade.  I'm not sure when you think he played better.  He got hurt early in the Raiders game and went on IR.  He didn't play again until they brought him back for the week 16 loss against the Pats. 

[Joe W. Namath]

Article states miss time and fall behind yet corey davis missed almost all of OTAs and was the #1 receiver yesterday.

Mims is in the doghouse for a reason.  Saleh and Lafleur are challenging him to get his act together the next 6 weeks and come back and dominate in training camp.

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13 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

Leader and mastermind might be a bit much.  He is probably just an Islanders fan.  He is a Long Island boy from Rockville Centre and went to Chaminade.  I'm not sure when you think he played better.  He got hurt early in the Raiders game and went on IR.  He didn't play again until they brought him back for the week 16 loss against the Pats. 

He mentions that he is an Islanders fan in the video so I am not sure you watched it but you should. He says that he basically got the Jets to get the tickets and talked a lot about how important it is to bond with guys at different positions and on the other side of the ball. He is the rep for the union. If you watch the interview, he sounds like a leader to me. Since everyone freaked out about the Islanders games, I think it is fair to say mastermind as well. We're not talking about some grand scheme but it sounds like he got it going and then it took off.

As for his play, I watched him in Carolina and thought he was decent. I haven't dared to go back and watch any games from this year but I've heard quite a few people say he improved as the season went on. 

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5 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Article states miss time and fall behind yet corey davis missed almost all of OTAs and was the #1 receiver yesterday.

Mims is in the doghouse for a reason.  Saleh and Lafleur are challenging him to get his act together the next 6 weeks and come back and dominate in training camp.

I am disappointed he is running with the 2s but at the same time, competition is good. Maybe seeing the 1s having fun, making noise will piss him off and make him hungry. I don't know if that's his issue but it does seem something is holding him back.

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5 minutes ago, Drums said:

He mentions that he is an Islanders fan in the video so I am not sure you watched it but you should. He says that he basically got the Jets to get the tickets and talked a lot about how important it is to bond with guys at different positions and on the other side of the ball. He is the rep for the union. If you watch the interview, he sounds like a leader to me. Since everyone freaked out about the Islanders games, I think it is fair to say mastermind as well. We're not talking about some grand scheme but it sounds like he got it going and then it took off.

As for his play, I watched him in Carolina and thought he was decent. I haven't dared to go back and watch any games from this year but I've heard quite a few people say he improved as the season went on. 

With that said, no one is calling him the starter but he's likable so I'm rooting for him.

[Paradis]

5 hours ago, Irish Jet said:

The concerns with Mims predate this camp.

You also thought Jerry Rice sucked, soooo…

[Greenseed4]

This is hilarious and I don’t know where else to share it. Brandin Echols. 

 

[whodeawhodat]

wtf was there a truck in reverse the whole time at this practice.  that beep beep beep is in every clip ?