ncjetman Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 for the first time in like forever we have a coaching staff that has an offensive playbook that makes sense - the only thing holding us back is the talent and we actually may have some of that too - still a year or two away but if zw is the real deal ( and who knows at this point) but if he is this team is going to make some noise and win some gamesSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Integrity28 Posted June 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2021 2 hours ago, SouthernJet said: he wont get 20 carries but he will get 8-12 carries and 4-8 targets a game You do realize that 12 carries and 8 catches is still 20 touches, right? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 I also expect good players to be good if they are good. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: You do realize that 12 carries and 8 catches is still 20 touches, right? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Ummmmm he is pretty goood...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: # 2, after Pitts, you mean. I dunno dude.... current polls favor Moore as shoe in for OROY with a gold jacket to follow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Ghost said: What about MJD? He lacked size and a special skill coming out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 CBS sports 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 6 hours ago, k-met57 said: You clearly dont remember how MJD was built…its not a comp. BTW with this amount of mass, he ran a 4.39 40 at the combine, which is universally accepted as being harder to run fast then the pro-day...which is where Carter ran a 4.5...and he was still a 60th pick. MJD and Ray Rice had the best running back bodies I’ve ever seen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 14 hours ago, jgb said: He was in the 98th percentile of RBs in the 40. Seems kinda special to me. And had legs like tree trunks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 8 hours ago, jgb said: MJD and Ray Rice had the best running back bodies I’ve ever seen Barry Sanders 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 20 hours ago, jgb said: He was in the 98th percentile of RBs in the 40. Seems kinda special to me. Don’t get me wrong, speed is essential. But how useful is it if you lack vision? All I’m trying to say is Michael Carter is a very balanced RB and although he doesn’t do one thing particularly good, he can still be a real effective RB. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 16 hours ago, k-met57 said: You clearly dont remember how MJD was built…its not a comp. BTW with this amount of mass, he ran a 4.39 40 at the combine, which is universally accepted as being harder to run fast then the pro-day...which is where Carter ran a 4.5...and he was still a 60th pick. Bro, I get it. He was a bowling ball for sure but he wasn’t that weight his rookie that season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 1 hour ago, PepPep said: Barry Sanders Earl Campbell also 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 1 hour ago, PepPep said: Barry Sanders Never saw him live but of course also good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 13 hours ago, Larz said: CBS sports So the Jets are going to have the most productive rookie RB, and second most productive rookie WR? The hype is real! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ghost said: Don’t get me wrong, speed is essential. But how useful is it if you lack vision? All I’m trying to say is Michael Carter is a very balanced RB and although he doesn’t do one thing particularly good, he can still be a real effective RB. The comment was there was nothing special about MJD physically coming out. That has now been disproven. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 14 hours ago, Paradis said: Michael Carter - 5’8” & 201 pounds MJD - 5’7” & 207 pounds. If you think that’s ideal size for a running back, then I don’t know what to tell you. This is their height and weight during their rookie seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 I expect Ladanian type of skillset,,,Defenses used to complain about not seeing LaDanian behind OL given his 5'9 (he claimed 5'10, but uhuh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alentador31 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 19 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: Ummmmm he is pretty goood...... Very little wasted movement. Incredible balance. Insane vision. He looks legit. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 6 hours ago, Ghost said: Michael Carter - 5’8” & 201 pounds MJD - 5’7” & 207 pounds. If you think that’s ideal size for a running back, then I don’t know what to tell you. This is their height and weight during their rookie seasons. Not worth spending more time on but “coming out” part is wrong. He was well regarded. Go on all day about his size if you want but you’re implying he wasn’t viewed as unique or special is wrong. Inaccurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 6 hours ago, 32EBoozer said: Earl Campbell also Agreed, but you can't even compare Campbell to the "small" guys like Barry or Walter. It's almost a different position the way they play. Earl really was almost the perfect prototype for a RB though because he blended it all...power, speed, toughness. One of the most interesting quotes I've ever seen on the subject... When Jim Brown was asked to rank all-time great running backs, he said: "It’s me first, Earl second, and everybody else? Get in line." Back to the subject at hand. Can you imagine trying to guess which way Carter is going to come around Becton when you can't even see him back there? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 22 hours ago, Larz said: CBS sports Amon Ra st Brown #3? Who did these rankings Paradise? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 On 6/25/2021 at 4:45 PM, Charlie Brown said: Ummmmm he is pretty goood...... He was also #8 like Moore in college. Coincidence, but nothing wrong with a bit of superstition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 9 hours ago, jgb said: Never saw him live but of course also good GREAT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 On 6/25/2021 at 4:45 PM, Charlie Brown said: Ummmmm he is pretty goood...... At 1:08... that's the Jets 4th rd pick MC I vs the Jets 5th rd pick MC II. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 On 6/25/2021 at 11:17 AM, Joe W. Namath said: There needs to be an investigation on how we got this kid in the 4th round. Right after they complete the investigation on how we got Elijah Moore in round 2. Thank you Joe Douglas. Thank you!! This guy right now is a third down back. You definitely are not running him between the tackles at the GL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 On 6/25/2021 at 11:42 AM, Tranquilo said: I don't know if the rookies are going to pan out, but when's the last time we had young skill position players topping any list? You just got me trying to think of who was the best WR/RB we've drafted during the Idzik / Mac decade. First thought was Robby, but he wasn't even drafted. Him aside, who was the previous best home grown/drafted WR or RB? Powell? Kerley?!? There has got to be someone I'm not thinking of? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, MichaelScott said: You just got me trying to think of who was the best WR/RB we've drafted during the Idzik / Mac decade. First thought was Robby, but he wasn't even drafted. Him aside, who was the previous best home grown/drafted WR or RB? Powell? Kerley?!? There has got to be someone I'm not thinking of? It would have to be Enunwa. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 On 6/26/2021 at 8:21 AM, 32EBoozer said: Earl Campbell also The Tyler Rose! That dude was a tank. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 On 6/26/2021 at 5:57 PM, Beerfish said: Amon Ra st Brown #3? Who did these rankings Paradise? Moore has unreal shiftiness after the catch,,,that is what makes a very good NFL player become a YAC stud 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 It would be nice for a change to have a RB who's a real receiving threat. Haven't had one of those for in while. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, peebag said: It would be nice for a change to have a RB who's a real receiving threat. Haven't had one of those for in while. amen............................................. ESPECIALLY in this scheme AND to help a rookie QB get thru rookie year when he needs that reliable safety valve escape dumpoff guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungaman Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Bo Jackson would have had a chance to be an all time great had he not suffered the fluke hip injury. Big, powerful, fast. Also notable that he was a very good baseball player to boot - some rare athletes have played two pro sports, but VERY few were above average in both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 On 6/26/2021 at 5:57 PM, Beerfish said: Amon Ra st Brown #3? Who did these rankings Paradise? Nobody seems to be paying attention to the fact that the reasons these guys are up the board is because they don't have anybody good in front of them. That is a big part of the high expectations for Carter and Moore. Who is at WR for the Lions? Perricman and Tyrell Williams? I assume that St Brown will see a ton of targets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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