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No. Njoku has $6M guaranteed coming this year and he really just hasn’t been good. Can’t see JD giving up a pick for that. Cleveland is probably kicking themselves for picking up that fifth year option in the first place. I doubt any team will bail them out. 

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We will be taking a tight end early in the draft next year.  So if a tight end is brought in, it will be on a 1 year deal.  And there will be no draft picks traded either.

But I believe we are fine with Krofty/Herndon this year.

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That seems kind of like a desperation move, we’ve invested so much into the offense and still have tons of draft picks next year. We don’t have to solve every single issue with the roster in 1 season, we also have 5 decent quality receivers and a backfield that can catch the ball   well with a significantly upgraded O line, so if our TE group ends up being subpar I don’t think it will hinder the whole offense and we can address it next year.

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there is a problem with waiting on the draft.  granted the jets aren't ready to start adding those pieces to put them over the top.  but every year that goes by means their existing contracts need to revamped.  guys like becton and qwill aren't going to come cheap.  who knows what other players will emerge as they get game experience.

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15 minutes ago, rangerous said:

there is a problem with waiting on the draft.  granted the jets aren't ready to start adding those pieces to put them over the top.  but every year that goes by means their existing contracts need to revamped.  guys like becton and qwill aren't going to come cheap.  who knows what other players will emerge as they get game experience.

The problem is having your predecessor drafting DT after DT while ignoring other areas of need. Now that WR and OL have been upgraded to acceptable, JD can now draft a premium TE. Macc was awful at drafting everything and it has set JD back for two years.   

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Douglas should have picked this guy in the 4th round in the draft 2 years ago instead of the schlock 4th rounders we picked.

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TE is a black hole for the jets right now.   A trade near final cut down is a possibility.

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I might be in the minority here but I think Herndon could actually be the guy. For a long list of reasons, I just don’t think we’ve actually seen enough to say if he can play or not. He’s finally in a system that should give him some opportunities to be a productive member of the offense. Add in that he’s in a contract year and we may have the formula for a late break out year. He’s flying under the radar right now but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he had a 600-700 yard season. 

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1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said:

We will be taking a tight end early in the draft next year.  So if a tight end is brought in, it will be on a 1 year deal.  And there will be no draft picks traded either.

But I believe we are fine with Krofty/Herndon this year.

This is what I tend to think.  At least the first part.  I thik we are rolling with some combination of Kroft/Herndon/Griffn and Wesco at FB.  Yeboah to the PS.  If someone shakes free during camp cutdowns, then maybe we make an opportunistic addition.  

Whether we are fine with Kroft/Herndon remains to be seen.  I am not quite as optimistic about that as you are.

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3 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

The problem is having your predecessor drafting DT after DT while ignoring other areas of need. Now that WR and OL have been upgraded to acceptable, JD can now draft a premium TE. Macc was awful at drafting everything and it has set JD back for two years.   

no argument from me about mac.  he just didn't understand about what a team needs.  my point is the jets are set up pretty well with the draft but at some point they need to capitalize on the good young players they have before they get expensive.  the next draft seems like pretty far in the future but that year is going to go by very quickly.  it's been reported that te is an important position in la fleur's offense but if la fleur is as good as advertised he will find a way to get the job done without a top one.  in this sense they can wait until next season but probably not much longer.

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3 hours ago, joewilly12 said:

Along with OL LB WR...theres always next year thats the motto. 

You could argue that wr and ol will not be a need in the first two rounds next year. Edge, TE, LB and DB would be my top  4  picks right now for 2022

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5 minutes ago, AlexVanDyke said:

You could argue that wr and ol will not be a need in the first two rounds next year. Edge, TE, LB and DB would be my top  4  picks right now for 2022

WR all depends on Mims.

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4 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

There is not "TE situation". We have some role players and prospects. Our roster was literal trash 18 months ago. You're just not going to get studs everywhere all at once.

Y'all need to take a breath.

"But OMG what R we GUNNA do wiffout the TE???"

Meanwhile, we have more viable pass-catchers on the roster than we've had in like 2 decades.

I love talk about a system needing a certain target it requires and that always coincides with a top tier player at that position. We got guys who can catch the ball and a QB who at least in shorts can put the ball where it needs to be. That should in itself solve a lot of issues. 

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1 hour ago, Integrity28 said:

There is not "TE situation". We have some role players and prospects. Our roster was literal trash 18 months ago. You're just not going to get studs everywhere all at once.

Y'all need to take a breath.

"But OMG what R we GUNNA do wiffout the TE???"

Meanwhile, we have more viable pass-catchers on the roster than we've had in like 2 decades.

I credit a lot this being Jet fans needing to unlearn I need something to bitch about. 

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13 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

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They can’t all be winners, pal. Not when you post 47 times on every issue. It was a garbage take. That’s not the motto, that’s a solution. 

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3 hours ago, Paradis said:

They can’t all be winners, pal. Not when you post 47 times on every issue. It was a garbage take. That’s not the motto, that’s a solution. 

Worry about how many times you post and what you post. 

Don't keep tabs on me. 

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Jets' Chris Herndon Attends Tight End University in Nashville

 
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Over the weekend, 49 tight ends from teams across the NFL gathered in Nashville, TN for a summit of sorts. 

Organized by All-Pros George Kittle and Travis Kelce, as well as recently retired Greg Olsen, the program labeled Tight End University (TEU) invited members of the position to learn key tips from each other. 

One of those 49 in attendance? That would be Jets starter Chris Herndon. 

After a strong rookie season, hopes were high for the fourth-round pick, but injuries and mediocre play have left many wondering whether he will ever meet those previous expectations. 

This season likely serves as the last chance for the Miami product to prove himself in a starting role, with his contract expiring at the end of the year. Herndon’s presence at TEU is a great sign for fans and Jets management alike. The 25-year-old is taking the initiative to capitalize on any opportunity to improve his game.

With the camp being led by some of the best tight ends of this generation in Kittle, Kelce, and Olsen, Herndon had a wealth of knowledge at his disposal in a low-pressure environment. 

Mike LaFleur Weighs in on Jets' 'Talented' Tight End Room

The program provided an excellent opportunity for players whose position requires a diverse skill set to share their tricks in a digestible way. 

"You have all of these guys that are so different but they play the same position," Kittle told ESPN. "We wanted to bring all of the guys together who are the best in the world at their position and learn from each other. It allows these guys to learn about every aspect of their game. If you can do all of the things that a tight end can do, there's not much a defense can do to stop you." 

Gang Green is relying on Herndon to produce, and Joe Douglas and Co. can hope that TEU provided their young tight end with key tweaks that will lead to a breakout season. 

With lots of weapons around him, Herndon should find more openings this campaign. He simply must capitalize on them to earn a new contract with New York, or any other franchise for that matter. 

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9 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Douglas should have picked this guy in the 4th round in the draft 2 years ago instead of the schlock 4th rounders we picked.

Albert Okwuegbunam

TE is a black hole for the jets right now.   A trade near final cut down is a possibility.

 JD didnt draft 2 years ago. 😎

And this guy is a JAG.  Not even a shlock.

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10 hours ago, JiFapono said:

Chris Herndon is going to surprise a lot of people around here...

 

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12 hours ago, rangerous said:

there is a problem with waiting on the draft.  granted the jets aren't ready to start adding those pieces to put them over the top.  but every year that goes by means their existing contracts need to revamped.  guys like becton and qwill aren't going to come cheap.  who knows what other players will emerge as they get game experience.

This isn't a legitimate concern.  You can't avoid leaning heavily on the draft out of a fear of having to pay players.  We don't know if there's any current player on the roster worthy of a contract after his rookie deal ends.  And that includes Quinnen Williams and Becton.  Neither of them may well be worth new contracts.  You cross that bridge when you get there.  It's a good problem to have.  

Meanwhile, these things are staggered.  Say we use one of our 1st rounders on a TE.  It'll be 4-5 years before we have to worry about paying him, plus we'll have the franchise tag as an option.  Cheap rookie deals help buy you time before you have to start spending big money.

Lastly, it's not like Douglas is going to avoid free agency.  In 2 offseasons he's spent pretty significant coin on Lawson, Corey Davis, McGovern, Fant, Jarrad Davis and Keelan Cole.  He's not going to sit on that cap space forever.  He's going to have a nice blend of homegrown talent and hired mercenaries.   

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New York Jets 2021 offseason recap: Tight ends

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The New York Jets added a goal-line target, but will they regret their failure to add competition for Chris Herndon?

 

 
 
 
 
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Following the conclusion of minicamp activities, the NFL offseason is officially over. The next time the New York Jets convene in Florham Park, they’ll be getting ready for preseason and regular season action for the 2021 season. 
 

With the offseason in the rearview mirror, ESM looks back on the green offseason that was, position-by-position. In part four, we analyze the Jets’ tight ends…

USATSI_14956267-1024x683.jpg Sep 20, 2020; East Rutherford, New Jersey, USA;New York Jets tight end Chris Herndon (89) is tackled by San Francisco 49ers cornerback K’Waun Williams (24) during the first half at MetLife Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Vincent Carchietta-USA TODAY Sports

How It Started

The 2020 season marked Chris Herndon’s third official year on an NFL roster. It was, technically speaking, only his second professional campaign as injuries and a suspension limited him to 18 snaps the year before, robbing him of a true sophomore season.

Yet, Herndon was a New York antique by Sam Darnold’s service standards: the 2018 fourth-round pick out of Miami was the only player on the Jets’ most recent opening day roster that caught passes during the departed franchise quarterback’s rookie season.

 
 

One could wax poetic about what that fact says about New York management in the new decade, but looking back toward that rookie season shows what Herndon is capable of. Despite working with a rookie Darnold and aging backup Josh McCown, Herndon led all rookie tight ends with 39 receptions and was second in the same group in yardage (502, 50 behind Baltimore’s Mark Andrews).

Alas, a suspension for a substance abuse policy violation and hamstring woes made his 2019 season a wash, and he failed to recapture the glory upon his reinsertion into the lineup last year, earning only 287 yards on 31 receptions. The early stages of his season were defined by a series of brutal drops, but things got better once things got truly dire for the Jets. Over the final three games (during which the Jets amassed a 2-1 mark), Herndon put up 145 yards on 14 receptions (17 targets). He also scored in each of the Jets’ final two games.

To his credit, Herndon blamed no one but himself for his struggles, even as some tried to pin his issues on his usage in Adam Gase’s systems.

 

“I feel like I’ve been used fairly,” Herndon said in October, per ESPN’s Rich Cimini. “It’s a team game. I can’t sit after every game and be upset and mad and try to point fingers. This time last year I wasn’t even on the field, so at this point, I’m honestly just thankful to be out there.”

The tight end group as a whole failed to make much of a dent in the Jets’ offensive woes. Veterans Ryan Griffin and Daniel Brown united for 117 yards on 11 receptions. Meanwhile, injury issues prematurely ended the Trevon Wesco experiment at fullback.

USATSI_13755443-1024x674.jpg Nov 24, 2019; Orchard Park, NY, USA; Buffalo Bills tight end Tyler Kroft (81) warms up prior to a game against the Denver Broncos at New Era Field. Mandatory Credit: Mark Konezny-USA TODAY Sports

How It’s Going

The Jets apparently have enough trust in Herndon to pocket their wallet, especially when looking at the foreign market. New England, for example, spent over $56 million combined in guaranteed money on Jonnu Smith and Hunter Henry. The Jets mostly kept things small, re-signing Brown to another year at just over $1 million and adding rookie free agent Kenny Yeboah after the draft.

Their big arrival in the tight end room is former divisional rival Tyler Kroft, as the former Buffalo Bill was added on an affordable one-year deal ($2 million). The Rutgers alum has developed a sizable NFL career as a goal-line option, which will undoubtedly help an offense that earned touchdowns on a league-worst 42 percent of its red-zone possessions last season. But is Kroft suitable competition for the primary role? He hasn’t been the starting tight end since 2017 in Cincinnati.

But minicamp offered an interesting twist: according to Connor Hughes of The Athletic, Herndon worked primarily with the second-team group during the spring sessions. Kroft and Griffin earned the top reps, and even Yeboah reportedly took some snaps. Herndon has indirectly responded by, per Jordy Fee-Pratt of SI.com, voluntarily partaking in Tight End University, a Nashville-based tight end summit hosted by George Kittle, Travis Kelce, and Greg Olsen.

It’s interesting to see the Jets work in non-Herndon names at the tight end spot. But are they working in the right names? One would probably feel more comfortable with such experimentation if they added a veteran name like newly minted Seahawk Gerald Everett.

USATSI_13680005-1024x683.jpg Nov 17, 2019; Landover, MD, USA; New York Jets tight end Daniel Brown (87) celebrates with Jets tight end Ryan Griffin (84) after catching a touchdown pass against the Washington Redskins in the first quarter at FedExField. Mandatory Credit: Geoff Burke-USA TODAY Sports

Are They Better Off?

Again, the Jets’ unwillingness to shell out the big bucks for a tight end probably says more about deep of a hole they dug themselves in other spots (i.e. wide receivers) than it does about their full trust in Herndon. New York, according to ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler, made an attempt to add Smith but dropped out of the bidding for financial reasons (Smith later earned a four-year, $50 million deal from the Patriots).

But the new staff has made it clear that they have plans for Herndon…he just has to earn his opportunity to partake.

As training camp ended, new offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur (who previously worked with the elite Kittle in San Francisco) was asked about Herndon’s prospects going into the 2021 campaign. LaFleur offered sympathy for Herndon, as his system will be the third in three seasons for the fourth-round pick (who is a rare leftover from Todd Bowles’ final season). A summer of opportunity awaits.

“It was documented last year just how he came on towards the back half and had a good rookie year that put him on the scene,” LaFleur said, per notes from the Jets. “He’s a talented dude…He missed a little bit of time with some things but it’ll be huge for him when he gets back and rehears this system, talk to him again, and gets in there with pads and we’re out there in those unscripted periods where he has a chance to go out there and make those plays.”

Elsewhere, the signing of Kroft should improve the goal-line situation while Yeboah (11 touchdown receptions over his last two college seasons) could prove to be a diamond in the rough. But since the uncertainty that lingered in the form of Herndon has only amplified, it’s hard to give the Jets a truly strong grade for this offseason’s adjustments, at least for the time being.

Final Offseason Grade: C

Should the Jets have added more competition for Herndon? Continue the conversation on Twitter @GeoffJMags

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12 hours ago, joewilly12 said:

Worry about how many times you post and what you post. 

Don't keep tabs on me. 

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You’re kidding me right. 

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What about Ryan Griffin? A couple of years back he seemed to surprise with his unexpected production, then last year, not so much. He’s 31. Is he done? Doesn’t seem to have many fans in here. 

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