raffyD Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Draft him with the 7th round pick the vikes gave us. He's going to be a major project but I think learning from a guy like c-mart may be how clarrett turns into the force everyone thought he was going to be two years ago. BTW, I'm new to the board and just wanted to say hi to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Draft him with the 7th round pick the vikes gave us. He's going to be a major project but I think learning from a guy like c-mart may be how clarrett turns into the force everyone thought he was going to be two years ago. BTW, I'm new to the board and just wanted to say hi to everyone. RaffyD welcome to the site -I have to respectfully disagree with you on Clarett though- he has shown his baggage to be lazy and with a bad attitude. If we were going to pick a back in the draft there so much better guys to take IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 wow raffy you think he'll fall that far?I'd take a chance on him and sort of compare him to the Miami kid that had his leg bent the wrong way what's his name anyway?Buffalo RB...McGahee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 They're saying that he may not even be drafted unless he has a decent private workout at his HS. I do agree with Fabo though that there are a lot of good projects at RB in the draft w/o the baggage of clarrett, but at the same time I can't help but think that all the scouts had it right the first time, i.e. that he is going to be a force. And with the proper mentoring I still think its possible because he is so young and everyone can be stupid when they are young. Either way we still need an OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 They're saying that he may not even be drafted unless he has a decent private workout at his HS. I do agree with Fabo though that there are a lot of good projects at RB in the draft w/o the baggage of clarrett, but at the same time I can't help but think that all the scouts had it right the first time, i.e. that he is going to be a force. And with the proper mentoring I still think its possible because he is so young and everyone can be stupid when they are young. Either way we still need an OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 oh BTW welcome raffy-keep adding to the mix it can tend to get a little stale in here ahem.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Clarett is a punk who, once he cashes his first NFL check, will stop working. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 RaffyD welcome to the site -I have to respectfully disagree with you on Clarett though the manners on this site are amazing. how long will this last? as far as clarret goes, i agree with you faba. too much baggage. jets don't need that type of distraction for a marginal talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 the manners on this site are amazing. how long will this last? as far as clarret goes, i agree with you faba. too much baggage. jets don't need that type of distraction for a marginal talent. We are here to discuss and have some fun and entertainment with a show of class and not to insult others no matter who you root for-in my opinion let some other team take a big chance on Clarett-we do not have to take that chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 Two years ago they had clarrett getting drafted in the 1st round. I agree we don't need him, for now. But c-mart is going to give us two more years max and they will not be at the level of production to date. I'm thinking about the future and the risk is minimal given we have the extra 7th rounder. Take a guy in the 7th that was once considered a 1st, no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 if the draft was 30 rounds long i wouldn't even use a 30th round pick on Maurice Clarett - that's how badly he sucks - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 if the draft was 30 rounds long i wouldn't even use a 30th round pick on Maurice Clarett - that's how badly he sucks - How do you garner such knowledge??? Because he had a bad day at the combine? That's not enough for me since the combine stats have consistently proven wrong. Remember, it was one bad day. Regardless, I'm more concerned with the OT situation anyway. No one will be running the ball if we don't get our hands on one of the stud OT's this year because the other boys are getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 if the draft was 30 rounds long i wouldn't even use a 30th round pick on Maurice Clarett - that's how badly he sucks - What bit said. Say no to maureen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 How do you garner such knowledge??? Because he had a bad day at the combine? That's not enough for me since the combine stats have consistently proven wrong. Remember, it was one bad day. i don't care about his times (which were pitiful) what pissed me off (and im sure many scouts) is the fact that he got pouty and quit his workout after his poor 40 times - he could have done positional drills, jumps, cone drills, shuttles etc - but no at the first sign of adversity he pulled in the tentpoles and acted like a little baby bitch. if he can't keep his head on straight after a rough 40 time, what's he gonna do when he fumbles on national TV? shoot himself? he's a bum with no character - he will go undrafted and deservedly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxJet Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 NO WAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 If the Jets take Clarett in any round Terry should be fired...lazy with an attitude..no way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 NO WAY I'd rather have the jets trade their first 4 picks in the draft for ronnie brown than waste a day 2 pick on clarett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Two years ago they had clarrett getting drafted in the 1st round. I agree we don't need him, for now. But c-mart is going to give us two more years max and they will not be at the level of production to date. I'm thinking about the future and the risk is minimal given we have the extra 7th rounder. Take a guy in the 7th that was once considered a 1st, no brainer. I agree with raffy. If he is still there in the 7th, take a flyer on him. All you folks who talk about his poor attitude, lack of work ethic and poor motivation seem to be forgeting that "supposedly" those are the strengths of your overated HC. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YJF Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Maurice was a good college back for one year. He had great vision, balance and moves. Alot like Emmitt Smith in that respect. If I were Maurice, I would hope not to get drafted. Rather than get picked in The 7th round. Here's what you do, You sign as an undrafted free agent with a team that has an opening for backup RB. Say, Like a Cleveland or a San Fransisco. Maurice has so many mistakes since his college career ended abruptly. He's going to have to earn his way into The NFL the hard way. As far as The Jets go... Pass..... He can't return kicks so he brings nothing to the table as a 3rd HB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hasty Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Clarett is a punk who, once he cashes his first NFL check, will stop working. Pass. I gotta agree with you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 Can't believe I agree with TX, but it's true. Herm is our HC, he's not that bright but what he can do is motivate and preach a good sermon (and possibly grill a decent wing). Well, if that's all he's good for then he should be the one to tap into the potential of clarrett. Then again, Jane Abe wouldn't suit up for him. I'm still pissed about that, hurt or not hurt you get a darn cortisone shot or whatever they give and put your pads on. Now there's your quitter, and he stands to make 6.7M! I'm talking about a guy that would be collecting the minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YJF Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Can't believe I agree with TX, but it's true. Herm is our HC, he's not that bright but what he can do is motivate and preach a good sermon (and possibly grill a decent wing). Well, if that's all he's good for then he should be the one to tap into the potential of clarrett. Then again, Jane Abe wouldn't suit up for him. I'm still pissed about that, hurt or not hurt you get a darn cortisone shot or whatever they give and put your pads on. Now there's your quitter, and he stands to make 6.7M! I'm talking about a guy that would be collecting the minimum. If it rains tommorow here in New York. I am going to blame Herman Edwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 All you folks who talk about his poor attitude, lack of work ethic and poor motivation seem to be forgeting that "supposedly" those are the strengths of your overated HC. :wink: you can only motivate a player to his potential. even at ohio state it's not like he was ripping off 80 yard runs like the kid from oklahoma. i don't see how herm can be overrated, he is what he is but nobody is comparing him to the alltime great hc's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiamiJet Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 I forget his name, but there was someone on the radio down here that gave a different view of Clarett. It might have been Gil Brandt or Chris Landry, but I am not sure. I don't remember. He mentioned that Clarett did indeed train very hard for the Combine, but had no supervision. He pretty much trained on his own, and was aware how important his 40 times would be. Basically out of football for two years, this kid was training for his life. His future. The caller went on to mention that Clarett was fully aware of how much was made of his size and how out of shape he looked, so he actually put on too much muscle, trying to be as buff as possible. This added weight did not help his times at all. He went on to mention that Clarett traveled to Indianapolis on his own, and trained up until the night of the Combines. He could not sleep, and became obsessed with training. Bad move. The caller did mention that Clarett did a real disservice to himself by quitting, but he did understand his mindset. This is really your one shot to make it, after training extremely hard for 9 months, and you blow it. I myself, do not defend Clarett. In fact, I was dead set against the Jets or Bears going after him, but after hearing that story, I've changed my mind. I would be open to him coming here, because of Herm and Mike Heimerdinger. No, I would not use a high pick on him, but what would a 6th or 7th hurt? Clarett has ability, and Heimer would not let him slack off one bit. If he doesn't perform, cut his ass. I think because of Clarett's track record, that his quitting makes him look even worse. That is a red flag, but I too can understand how down he must have felt. Forty times can make or break you, and he is a kid. He needs to be stronger mentally. He needs guidance. He had no supervision, and I know, this is football, butnot everyone is the same. He has made bad chocies, but it seemed like he was finally doing the right thing, only to have it blow up in his face. Sorry for rambling, but I wouldn't mind trying. Low risk, high reward sounds good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 I wouldn't complain at all if the Jets gave Clarett a shot with a 7th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 I forget his name, but there was someone on the radio down here that gave a different view of Clarett. It might have been Gil Brandt or Chris Landry, but I am not sure. I don't remember. He mentioned that Clarett did indeed train very hard for the Combine, but had no supervision. He pretty much trained on his own, and was aware how important his 40 times would be. Basically out of football for two years, this kid was training for his life. His future. The caller went on to mention that Clarett was fully aware of how much was made of his size and how out of shape he looked, so he actually put on too much muscle, trying to be as buff as possible. This added weight did not help his times at all. He went on to mention that Clarett traveled to Indianapolis on his own, and trained up until the night of the Combines. He could not sleep, and became obsessed with training. Bad move. The caller did mention that Clarett did a real disservice to himself by quitting, but he did understand his mindset. This is really your one shot to make it, after training extremely hard for 9 months, and you blow it. I myself, do not defend Clarett. In fact, I was dead set against the Jets or Bears going after him, but after hearing that story, I've changed my mind. I would be open to him coming here, because of Herm and Mike Heimerdinger. No, I would not use a high pick on him, but what would a 6th or 7th hurt? Clarett has ability, and Heimer would not let him slack off one bit. If he doesn't perform, cut his a$$. I think because of Clarett's track record, that his quitting makes him look even worse. That is a red flag, but I too can understand how down he must have felt. Forty times can make or break you, and he is a kid. He needs to be stronger mentally. He needs guidance. He had no supervision, and I know, this is football, butnot everyone is the same. He has made bad chocies, but it seemed like he was finally doing the right thing, only to have it blow up in his face. Sorry for rambling, but I wouldn't mind trying. Low risk, high reward sounds good to me. That was Todd McShay and that was the biggest pile of sh*t I've heard in a loooong time. McSHay is an absolute idiot. Like Clarett, who showed up at the combine completely coached up to look like he wasn't a sociopath, didn't have any contact with omeone to get his body in shape? Clarett, as lazy an a$$hole as there ever was at Ohio State, just all of a sudden hit the weights every day unsupervised? Gimme a break. McShay is another one of those guys who lets agents push him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 He played ONE YEAR of college football. ONE INJURY PRONE YEAR. Yet people remain all over his jock two years later. He has given no one a reason to draft him in two years. Bad attitude, poor character, slow and fat, injury risk. I wouldn't even touch this cancer with a UDFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHJF Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 I wouldn't complain at all if the Jets gave Clarett a shot with a 7th rounder. I agree with you 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 And, lest we forget, he went to Ohio State... that just speaks volumes, I think. Cause, y'know, Ohio State sucks, and it just isn't said enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 But he deserves it 100% for quitting at the combine. But I guess I was sold by that story because it just makes sense that he possibly did not train properly, bulked up too much and then f'ed up his 40 time. I am really looking forward to the draft, I think Cleveland or San Fran take him in the 6th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetgreen13 Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 If he is still there in the 7th, take a flyer on him. dillon is old. maybe NE will take him in the 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 dillon is old. maybe NE will take him in the 7th. You left that curve up in the zone. TX is currently licking his chops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 dillon is old. maybe NE will take him in the 7th. If the Pats had two 7th round picks, I wouldn't mind that at all. Love the "Dillon is old comment". What's Martin? Savage in a stroller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 You left that curve up in the zone. TX is currently licking his chops. Ya know Troll, you get better by the day. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetgreen13 Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 You left that curve up in the zone. TX is currently licking his chops. nah, teflon...err tx has been getting caught looking the last coulpe of days. i want him to swing the bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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