jeremy2020 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: exactly... Zach through his agent has chosen not to be there....in hind sight 10 years from now, no one will remember BUT just stupid from the players side and to be given this bad advice. He should be here. Why should Zach accept one iota less than #3 overall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Zachtion Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 Every article has this flavor to it... ----- The Jets-Zach Wilson standoff is really, really dumb By Brian Costello July 28, 2021 | 6:02pm | Updated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Why should Zach accept one iota less than #3 overall? Just got back. Did Lance get No offsets at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Are people flying places right now? Probably needs every penny he can get.I work for a commercial airline and the answer is absolutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmhertz Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Only 20 days 0f practice were available, now 19 are left. Douglas get off of your fat ass or we will see if we still have the coffee addicts# 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snook Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 33 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Why should Zach accept one iota less than #3 overall? There are offsets in Lance’s contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 hours ago, The Crusher said: To Roscoes Diner!! When it comes to food you defiantly have Hyperthymesia.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Mogglez said: No one said anything about him being a bust. That doesn’t mean it’s good to have him on a different page than the rest of the offense. That’s bad. This isn’t rocket science guys. Im saying if 3 days keeps him on a different page, causes him problems, he has issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RutgersJetFan Posted July 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2021 40 minutes ago, DLJ said: I work for a commercial airline and the answer is absolutely I’m not sure if you’re the person behind this or who you gotta talk to but can we stop pretending like putting the seat back up for takeoff and landing really makes a difference 3 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kthisguy Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Zack is simply asking for all the cash he is entitled to being the number 2 pick. The number something he can’t negotiate as the CBA dictates the low contract amount. Yes the 35.2 million is a bargain! Just think back to 2010 and Sam Bradord getting 78 million for 6 years with $50 million guaranteed.JD or the Johnsons are embarrassing the themselves over a couple hundred grand if Zack busts. It’s penny wise and pound foolish. If Zack busts JD will be out the door before Zack. You can simply pass on the off set language because he is a number 2 pick. If the Jets are picking inside the top five in the next few years JD will be long gone. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Warfish said: No, you never said bust. But you were expressing great concern over him missing a day. I expect a great prospect to be able to absorb missing a day. Do you not? Is a single day going to put him "on a different page" in a lasting way? Is that something a great prospect cannot recover form over all the other days of practice and preseason before opening day? I'd agree it's not rocket science. If Zach misses a week or more, thats a problem. A day? Even I think Zach can overcome the loss of a single day or two, and I'm one of the biggest Zach "show me" guys on this site. 41 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Im saying if 3 days keeps him on a different page, causes him problems, he has issues 1. If a student misses a couple of classes, are they on the same page as the rest of the class? I don’t think so. Sure he can overcome a few days, but it’s still not good. 2. (Redacted; see below) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted July 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mogglez said: 1. If a student misses a couple of classes, are they on the same page as the rest of the class? I don’t think so. Sure he can overcome a few days, but it’s still not good. 2. If you guys think that the Jets are working out two QBs tomorrow with the idea that Zach is only going to miss a day or two, I’ve got some unfortunate news for you. Well scratch this second part because I just got some very hopeful news. I’m working on it, but I’m off the ledge for now, let’s say that. I should probably check my text messages before posting from this point going forward. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 59 minutes ago, Snook said: There are offsets in Lance’s contract. partial only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mogglez said: 1. If a student misses a couple of classes, are they on the same page as the rest of the class? I don’t think so. Sure he can overcome a few days, but it’s still not good. 2. (Redacted; see below) Hes played in a similar system Hes had practices with the team before Hes practiced with WR on their own time Its not a student missing all new material while the rest of the class has absorbed it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Well scratch this second part because I just got some very hopeful news. I’m working on it, but I’m off the ledge for now, let’s say that. I should probably check my text messages before posting from this point going forward. This sounds encouraging. Time to start refreshing my twitter feed every couple of minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Well scratch this second part because I just got some very hopeful news. I’m working on it, but I’m off the ledge for now, let’s say that. I should probably check my text messages before posting from this point going forward. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Maybe just maybe this is all planned. We know the Jets need a veteran QB on this team - so maybe they want to see which of the 2 bozo's they are going to keep along with the Vet so they are giving the bozo's a few days of 1/2 the reps to see which one they like better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Nixhead said: Maybe just maybe this is all planned. We know the Jets need a veteran QB on this team - so maybe they want to see which of the 2 bozo's they are going to keep along with the Vet so they are giving the bozo's a few days of 1/2 the reps to see which one they like better. Theyre going to dump a QB off of a 90 min practice without pads? No, that doesnt work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nixhead said: Maybe just maybe this is all planned. We know the Jets need a veteran QB on this team - so maybe they want to see which of the 2 bozo's they are going to keep along with the Vet so they are giving the bozo's a few days of 1/2 the reps to see which one they like better. I actually thought this too. Zach shows up on Friday and ready to practice Sat. Gives them 3 full days to evaluate morgan and white mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted July 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2021 19 minutes ago, Lith said: This sounds encouraging. Time to start refreshing my twitter feed every couple of minutes. 14 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said: I’m not gonna put a concrete timetable out there because I learned my lesson with the Saleh sh*t lmao, but there has been significant enough progress made in the last few hours that I can confidently say that I’m off the ledge for now. As always, this stuff is fluid, but I’m happier now than I was around the time practice kicked off. FWIW I don’t think you’ll miss anything if you go to bed soon. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facts Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: Im saying if 3 days keeps him on a different page, causes him problems, he has issues No he doesn’t. Timing is incredibly important at the QB position and he needs every rep that he can get. He needs to be there. Its not going to ruin his career but it’s going to make his first season more complicated than it needs to be and a rookie season is already complicated enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lith Posted July 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, Mogglez said: FWIW I don’t think you’ll miss anything if you go to bed soon. Tomorrow will work. Better than today, actually. I turn 60 tomorrow, so I need some good news to keep my mind off that "6" number. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeJet22 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Lith said: Tomorrow will work. Better than today, actually. I turn 60 tomorrow, so I need some good news to keep my mind off that "6" number. Happy Birthday.! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 28 minutes ago, Facts said: No he doesn’t. Timing is incredibly important at the QB position and he needs every rep that he can get. He needs to be there. Its not going to ruin his career but it’s going to make his first season more complicated than it needs to be and a rookie season is already complicated enough. And theres more time than needed to get all his throwing in. His first season isnt going to become complicated because he misses a day of two of throwing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facts Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: And theres more time than needed to get all his throwing in. His first season isnt going to become complicated because he misses a day of two of throwing. If it’s only a day or two, I agree. What if it becomes a week or two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 26 minutes ago, Lith said: Tomorrow will work. Better than today, actually. I turn 60 tomorrow, so I need some good news to keep my mind off that "6" number. Happy birthday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 When you are bad enough to pick 2 in the Draft, you really don't have much bargaining position. The player you pick is supposed to be a great player. So if he busts, the likely reason is that the team did not develop or support the player. So yes, maybe Wilson says screw you, you are not saving money in offsets, because you messed my career up and I had to move before year 4. That is what I would say. My guess is that is the way Darnold feels now. When you pick a QB top 5, or top 3, and his agent wants to push for no offsets, I think you have to cave. This does not set precedent. You pick lower than that, you tell the player to take the offset, or wait at home. If Wilson misses tomorrow that is 10% of Training Camp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Lawrence has no offsets. Lance has partial offsets. This could be as easy as saying 'split the difference'. If Lance got 50%, then give Wilson 25% (and Lawrence got 0%). That's a simple way for everyone to save face and stop fighting over something that means very, very little in reality. It really could be that simple. Unless the Jets or Wilson's agent are determined to prove some inane point. Honestly, the NFL and NFLPA would do the rookies a HUGE favor by codifying offsets and bonus schedules so there's nothing left to negotiate. Then rookies could sign deals without having to pay agents at all. Everyone wins but the agents and nobody gives a sh-t about them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: Why should Zach accept one iota less than #3 overall? Because it's nothing burger and he should be at practice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Nixhead said: Maybe just maybe this is all planned. We know the Jets need a veteran QB on this team - so maybe they want to see which of the 2 bozo's they are going to keep along with the Vet so they are giving the bozo's a few days of 1/2 the reps to see which one they like better. Have you actually listened to Saleh? He does not want a veteran backup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 54 minutes ago, Facts said: If it’s only a day or two, I agree. What if it becomes a week or two? It wont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Lith said: Tomorrow will work. Better than today, actually. I turn 60 tomorrow, so I need some good news to keep my mind off that "6" number. Ayyyyyy happy birthday!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzyJet Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Nixhead said: Maybe just maybe this is all planned. We know the Jets need a veteran QB on this team - so maybe they want to see which of the 2 bozo's they are going to keep along with the Vet so they are giving the bozo's a few days of 1/2 the reps to see which one they like better. Lol that's so serious 8D chess right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 34 minutes ago, johnnysd said: Have you actually listened to Saleh? He does not want a veteran backup Yea, the Adam Gase school of coaching. If you don't have a viable backup and your starter misses games then you can't be blamed for sucking and get one more year! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 52 minutes ago, nycdan said: Lawrence has no offsets. Lance has partial offsets. This could be as easy as saying 'split the difference'. If Lance got 50%, then give Wilson 25% (and Lawrence got 0%). That's a simple way for everyone to save face and stop fighting over something that means very, very little in reality. It really could be that simple. Unless the Jets or Wilson's agent are determined to prove some inane point. Honestly, the NFL and NFLPA would do the rookies a HUGE favor by codifying offsets and bonus schedules so there's nothing left to negotiate. Then rookies could sign deals without having to pay agents at all. Everyone wins but the agents and nobody gives a sh-t about them. Or maybe JD should just be the adult and responsible GM and give him none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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