Zach represented by Bosa's team and JD won't budge..

[Mogglez]

17 minutes ago, Claymation said:

Given his post history and join date I would almost guarantee he’s one of the 50 million Bills fan trolls that was banned here around the same time.  There was 1 or 2 who constantly made new accounts after getting banned to defend the Bills and Josh Allen.  This guys first post?  A post defending the Bills and Josh Allen.  In fact, the post is an argument with SAR , continuing an argument that he was having with a Bills fan who got banned for taking it to far.  All of a sudden “Facts” jumped in and continued the same conversation without skipping a beat.

I have no idea why they keep coming here to troll.  Reeks of insecurity.

[Facts]

8 hours ago, JiFapono said:

Bring back Big Mac!!!!

The absence of something worse doesn’t make another great.

[Facts]

5 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

The mere fact that he avoided paying Jamal Adams $20M a year and got two 1sts and a 3rd from a respected org like the Seahawks made him a pretty good GM on its own.  Meanwhile, he hired a very well-respected, highly desired candidate in Robert Saleh, whose defensive strategy and offensive assistants all come from a highly successful system.  

I get that people need to see the results before they believe in him, but FFS, the roster and coaching staff already look worlds better than it has in nearly a decade.  He's doing the job, and its going to pay off.

He made the right call on Jamal Adams, but it was a call that the majority of smart Jet fans called for. Are they great GM’s too?

The hiring of Saleh is a non-starter until he actually has a record. 

This may change in the future but at this moment, JD has proven nothing. He has a losing record. 

[Jetsfan80]

4 minutes ago, Facts said:

He made the right call on Jamal Adams, but it was a call that the majority of smart Jet fans called for. Are they great GM’s too?

The hiring of Saleh is a non-starter until he actually has a record. 

This may change in the future but at this moment, JD has proven nothing. He has a losing record. 

Trading Adams:  Smart.

Duping Seattle into giving up two firsts and a 3rd:  Super smart.  
 

JD only has a losing record because he had to clean up a roster that had gone through 10 years of poor drafting.  Things had to get worse before they could get better.  He could have spent heavily to try to go 9-7 like Macc would have, but he didn’t and it was the right move.  

Believe what you want about Douglas:  Things are about to get fun here.  If he nailed it with the QB pick, is team wins the division in 2022.

[Facts]

55 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Given his post history and join date I would almost guarantee he’s one of the 50 million Bills fan trolls that was banned here around the same time.  There was 1 or 2 who constantly made new accounts after getting banned to defend the Bills and Josh Allen.  This guys first post?  A post defending the Bills and Josh Allen.  In fact, the post is an argument with SAR , continuing an argument that he was having with a Bills fan who got banned for taking it to far.  All of a sudden “Facts” jumped in and continued the same conversation without skipping a beat.

I have no idea why they keep coming here to troll.  Reeks of insecurity.

Not me.

I’m just a jaded fan who wishes the Jets picked Allen. 

[Facts]

1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Trading Adams:  Smart.

Duping Seattle into giving up two firsts and a 3rd:  Super smart.  
 

JD only has a losing record because he had to clean up a roster that had gone through 10 years of poor drafting.  Things had to get worse before they could get better.  He could have spent heavily to try to go 8-8 like Macc would have, but he didn’t and it was the right move.  

Believe what you want about Douglas:  Things are about to get fun here.  If he nailed it with the QB pick, is team wins the division in 2022.

You may end up being correct.

He may end up being a great GM with a great record.

But he isn’t at this point.

[Jetsfan80]

Just now, Facts said:

You may end up being correct.

He may end up being a great GM with a great record.

But he isn’t at this point.

You can evaluate how a GM is doing without needing to see the wins yet, you know.  He runs the org professionally.  For now, that’s all I needed to see.

[Facts]

1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

You can evaluate how a GM is doing without needing to see the wins yet, you know.  He runs the org professionally.  For now, that’s all I needed to see.

“He hasn’t done anything bad yet, so he must be good”

I don’t agree with that ideology.

[Jetsfan80]

4 minutes ago, Facts said:

“He hasn’t done anything bad yet, so he must be good”

I don’t agree with that ideology.

He’s done good things too, not just avoided the bad.  The WR corps is worlds better than it was prior to his arrival (and this isn’t just a prediction; there’s some proven talent there).  Becton is a tremendously talented LT who has looked dominant on the field.  Bryce Hall looks like, at minimum, a solid CB2 taken in Rd 5.  And he was smart enough to move Darnold and seek an upgrade.

If you think he hasn’t done well with this roster you just aren’t paying much attention OR perhaps you’re a bit cynical, which is understandable given the franchise’s history. 

[JetsFanatic]

Anybody watching the Jets SNY show? Great look into the Jets actions during the off season. Part 1 tonight & Part 2 tomorrow night.

[Facts]

1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

He’s done good things too, not just avoided the bad.  The WR corps is worlds better than it was prior to his arrival.  Becton is a tremendous talent.  Bryce Hall looks like, at minimum, a solid CB2 taken in Rd 5.  And he was smart enough to move Darnold and seek an upgrade.

If you think he hasn’t done well with this roster you just aren’t paying much attention OR perhaps you’re a bit cynical, which is understandable given the franchise’s history. 

Maybe you’re right. Guess we’ll see.

[JetsFanatic]

10 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

You can evaluate how a GM is doing without needing to see the wins yet, you know.  He runs the org professionally.  For now, that’s all I needed to see.

Copied by mistake 

[BornJetsFan1983]

16 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

You can evaluate how a GM is doing without needing to see the wins yet, you know.  He runs the org professionally.  For now, that’s all I needed to see.

lets not forget one of his biggest and greatest acheivements as a GM = getting ownership to give him the power of GM, he took it back after years of mismanagement - there is no question that our GM runs the show and reports to Woody - no coach whomever.. 

I dont think he gets enough credit for establishing basic power structure and necessary administrative system that a team needs to run well. And he did it while getting rid of the HC that got him hired. Well done.

 

[BornJetsFan1983]

12 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said:

Anybody watching the Jets SNY show? Great look into the Jets actions during the off season. Part 1 tonight & Part 2 tomorrow night.

******* SNY makes it impossible to watch this stuff out of state - FU SNY

[Mogglez]

29 minutes ago, Facts said:

Not me.

I’m just a jaded fan who wishes the Jets picked Allen. 

So you’re a jaded Jets fan who only talks about the Bills, Josh Allen, and how bad Joe Douglas is on a Jets forum because you’re mad that the previous GM selected Darnold over Allen.  Oh, and you just so happened to register right after a Bills fan named RocketBills was banned so that you could continue his argument with SAR, defending the Bills.

Either you’re a Bills fan trolling, or you should be.

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

On 7/19/2021 at 6:00 PM, Action Zachtion said:

http://www.jetsfix.com/jets-fans-should-brace-themselves-for-a-possible-zach-wilson-holdout/

 

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Jets fans should brace themselves for a possible Zach Wilson holdout

09 MAY 2021

Having made their decision on their quarterback of the future and determined he's the best possible fit for their offense, the Jets clearly have a plan in place for his development. It should all be plain-sailing from here, right?

Unfortunately, there may be one other key hurdle to overcome because Wilson is apparently represented by the same team that brought you such holdouts as those involving Roquan Smith, Aaron Donald and Joey Bosa.

Don't think this was lost on Wilson and his family either. It would likely have been a selling point that these representatives used in order to secure his signature. Wilson, whose uncle is a billionaire entrepreneur, may have chosen this representation above all others because of their reputation for getting their clients a better deal, even on rookie contracts which have almost no room for negotiation.

Rookie holdouts were supposed to be a thing of the past when the rookie contract scale was upgraded several years ago. Rookie deals for first rounders now must be four year deals with a fifth-year option and the dollar amount set in stone by their draft slot and the level of that season's salary cap, with no renegotiation allowed until after the third season.

So, what is there even to negotiate? Recent holdouts have been over things like offset language, the timing of payments or the language surrounding the situations in which guaranteed money has to be returned. The Smith holdout, for example, was because there was a concern that he could be fined for a helmet-to-helmet hit and that this would cause him to lose guarantees.

From a fan's perspective, it can be a frustrating and tense time, with anger to be directed at the player, his representatives and the team in equal measures. The message to the front office should be clear though:

The fans want Zach Wilson in camp on time.
The fans don't care about offset language.
The fans don't care about non-guaranteed guarantees.
The fans don't care about the timing of payments.
Neither should you.
Get him signed.

You've made the commitment to Wilson by using the second pick on him, now sign him to a contract to get him into camp on time so this doesn't hang over the offseason like a Sword of Damocles.

The Jets gave us a positive sign of their intent when they became the first NFL team to sign ANY 2021 rookie to a contract by inking Jamien Sherwood to a four-year deal on Wednesday and then following that up by signing their other five defensive draft picks on the first day of mini-camp. Hopefully, they take a similar no-nonsense get-it-done approach to Wilson's deal once the time comes to sign that.

It's hard to know whether Sam Darnold's holdout, which only caused him to miss a day or two of camp, played any part in slowing his development, but the likes of Smith, Bosa and Donald's holdouts lasted deep into August. With preseason affected, could Wilson end up not being ready to start from the beginning of the 2021 season?

While we shouldn't be so alarmist as to suggest that the backup quarterback position is a higher priority given the possibility of a training camp holdout, it should not be forgotten that this is a spot that still needs to be filled, in case Wilson has a setback for this or any other reason.

Ultimately, if the Jets do get Wilson's deal done, this is perhaps cause for celebration - even more so than previous first round picks given the situation.

However, let's not forget, of course, if the rookie deal is done without too much fuss, then the Jets could still end up in a tough negotiation in three years time if Wilson develops as well as hoped (or, worse, if he falls just short of expectations but is still looking for an extension.

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This is short but mentions Wilson's team is known for holdouts and not giving in.  JD seems hellbent on getting the better side of every deal.  

Only 3 first round rookies have not come to terms or signed and 2 of them are on the Jets.   

Hopefully all 3 Jet rookies are signed and report tomorrow.  

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

9 hours ago, IndianaJet said:

FWIW - Zach's mom....who usually posts 50 times a day on Instagram.  Has gone silent.  Crickets from her over the last 19 hours.

 

Hmmmmmmm....... ??

[ChickenLittle]

7 hours ago, peebag said:

Good to have you back Tex!

 

Not.

Chicken Little is the unofficial mascot of the SOJFs who cry that the sky is falling for something that is common with high draft picks. 

[Facts]

39 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

So you’re a jaded Jets fan who only talks about the Bills, Josh Allen, and how bad Joe Douglas is on a Jets forum because you’re mad that the previous GM selected Darnold over Allen.  Oh, and you just so happened to register right after a Bills fan named RocketBills was banned so that you could continue his argument with SAR, defending the Bills.

Either you’re a Bills fan trolling, or you should be.

I dont know who that poster is but looking at his account it’s pretty clear that he/she were posting well into January.

I registered in December.

[JetsFanatic]

1 hour ago, Facts said:

I dont know who that poster is but looking at his account it’s pretty clear that he/she were posting well into January.

I registered in December.

You are a frontrunning Jills fan?? Lol

[Mogglez]

2 hours ago, Facts said:

I dont know who that poster is but looking at his account it’s pretty clear that he/she were posting well into January.

I registered in December.

They were banned for going overboard with insults and then unbanned for a brief period because the mods actually run this place well and are open to second or third chances.  They went overboard again in January and I believe that was all she wrote. 

You don’t know who they are, yet picked up their argument with SAR and continued it as if you were involved the whole time, staunchly defending the Bills.  Following that, you only came around when people were discussing the Bills and Allen.  From the moment you registered here you’ve done nothing but trash everything Jets related and praise everything Buffalo….but claim to be a Jets fan?

If you’re somehow telling the truth and the Jets jaded you this badly?  Just switch teams at this point because this is a much worse look.

[Facts]

1 hour ago, JetsFanatic said:

You are a frontrunning Jills fan?? Lol

No, but Sherlock Mogglez seems to think he solved a case that doesn’t exist. I feel silly for having fallen into the trap.

[Claymation]

16 hours ago, Facts said:

No, but Sherlock Mogglez seems to think he solved a case that doesn’t exist. I feel silly for having fallen into the trap.

"And you would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for these meddling kids!"

[Mogglez]

16 hours ago, Facts said:

No, but Sherlock Mogglez seems to think he solved a case that doesn’t exist. I feel silly for having fallen into the trap.

Like I already said: if you aren’t a Bills fan (which I still doubt) and are this distraught over Allen, you should just end your suffering and switch teams with how much you seem to love the Bills.

[Dinamite]

No updates yet, I guess.   Let's hope he signs before training camp starts.

[nycdan]

This is simple. 

Step 1) The Jets should offer the exact terms Lawrence signed for (other than dollars obviously which is set).

Step 2) Zach should sign it.

If either party doesn't meet at that line, they are assholes.

 

[Jet Nut]

On 7/21/2021 at 5:51 PM, Mogglez said:

Given his post history and join date I would almost guarantee he’s one of the 50 million Bills fan trolls that was banned here around the same time.  There was 1 or 2 who constantly made new accounts after getting banned to defend the Bills and Josh Allen.  This guys first post?  A post defending the Bills and Josh Allen.  In fact, the post is an argument with SAR , continuing an argument that he was having with a Bills fan who got banned for taking it to far.  All of a sudden “Facts” jumped in and continued the same conversation without skipping a beat.

I have no idea why they keep coming here to troll.  Reeks of insecurity.

@Factsis like all the Bills trolls who come here.  They seem to think that winning a playoff game once in 25+ years gives them something to crow about.  And for some reason need validation from Jets fans.  

[Jet Nut]

On 7/21/2021 at 10:51 PM, Facts said:

No, but Sherlock Mogglez seems to think he solved a case that doesn’t exist. I feel silly for having fallen into the trap.

Heres a hint for you and the other Bills trolls who feel the need to not only come here but to make believe they are the worst, dullest Jets fan ever.  Just tell us you are Bills fan and move on, you dont have to feel so lame for being a Bills fan.  Could be worse.  

Not really 

[Jet Nut]

On 7/21/2021 at 6:51 PM, Facts said:

“He hasn’t done anything bad yet, so he must be good”

I don’t agree with that ideology.

You go with the ideology that he hasn’t done anything bad yet, so he must be bad?

Makes sense.?

[Defense Wins Championships]

On 7/21/2021 at 7:48 PM, Facts said:

I dont know who that poster is but looking at his account it’s pretty clear that he/she were posting well into January.

I registered in December.

You're a Bill troll. 

You first ever posts were sucking off the Bills and you had your Bills fan liking your crap too. 

[Defense Wins Championships]

On 7/21/2021 at 10:00 PM, Mogglez said:

They were banned for going overboard with insults and then unbanned for a brief period because the mods actually run this place well and are open to second or third chances.  They went overboard again in January and I believe that was all she wrote. 

You don’t know who they are, yet picked up their argument with SAR and continued it as if you were involved the whole time, staunchly defending the Bills.  Following that, you only came around when people were discussing the Bills and Allen.  From the moment you registered here you’ve done nothing but trash everything Jets related and praise everything Buffalo….but claim to be a Jets fan?

If you’re somehow telling the truth and the Jets jaded you this badly?  Just switch teams at this point because this is a much worse look.

Wow dude you would've made an awesome P.I. 

He's most certainly a Buffalo fan boy because NO JETS FAN would ever create a Jets username and then talk about JOSH ALLEN AND THE BILLS as much as this guy (immediately) did.

All of these screen shots are just from the first page of his "Jets" posting career ???

Yeah bro @Mogglez he's without question a Buffalo troll and thnx you for exposing him to me.

[Larz]

No idea where he’s going, but let’s hope it’s here lol

 

 

[Mogglez]

5 minutes ago, Larz said:

No idea where he’s going, but let’s hope it’s here lol

 

 

He posted an image yesterday or today, (can’t remember) at a New York restaurant with his girlfriend.  Unfortunately, this is looking like it’s gonna be a holdout because I can’t, for the life of me, think that he’d be leaving New York two days before he’s due to report.

[Larz]

6 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

He posted an image yesterday or today, (can’t remember) at a New York restaurant with his girlfriend.  Unfortunately, this is looking like it’s gonna be a holdout because I can’t, for the life of me, think that he’d be leaving New York two days before he’s due to report.

I saw that didn’t realize it was NY

yes landing at LAX is a bad sign. 

hold out probably 2-3 days I’d guess. 

[SeattleJet]

9 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

He posted an image yesterday or today, (can’t remember) at a New York restaurant with his girlfriend.  Unfortunately, this is looking like it’s gonna be a holdout because I can’t, for the life of me, think that he’d be leaving New York two days before he’s due to report.

Perhaps he is attending Greg Knapp's funeral. I have no idea, but since coach Greg was from CA, I am just guessing. Hope ZW is signed soon.