ncjetman Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Read article where he said this - yeah you were a total turd that year - I hated you too - after you choked like a baby trying to swallow a bowling ball in last game of 2015 and continued to play like the loser you’ve always been in 16 I’m surprised you have the guts to even bring it up. This guy is so bad when it counts………. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 4 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I mean he didn’t play well in 2016. He’s not exactly saying anything we didn’t know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncjetman Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 said he was miserable as a jet that year - maybe if he didn’t play down to his worst performance level it would have been better - i think this guy is a likable dog - big floppy beard etc but he’s a nobody in the world of the nfl - hangs around - wins a few games here and there and then sh*ts the bed every time it matters Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 43 minutes ago, ncjetman said: Read article where he said this - yeah you were a total turd that year - I hated you too - after you choked like a baby trying to swallow a bowling ball in last game of 2015 and continued to play like the loser you’ve always been in 16 I’m surprised you have the guts to even bring it up. This guy is so bad when it counts………. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Our TEAM was a total turd that year, with a Head Coach (Bowles) on his was to 5, 5, and 4 win seasons, and riddled with injuries to key players and with key offensive players who, it turns out, had had their last gasp in the NFL in 2015. Like both Marshall and Decker at WR, neither of whom ever had productive seasons after that 2015 campaign. Decker washed out of the league after a forgettable meh season in Tenn. in 2017, Marshall had a total of 29 catches over two horrible years in 2017 and 2018 with the Giants and Seahawks. People love to say Decker and Marshall 'made' Fitz in 2015. The truth is Fitz squeezed the last drops of decent pro-level play from two clearly declining veterans WR's on their way out, both of whom were either hurt or utterly worthless that next year (2016) and both of whom were out of the NFL shortly thereafter. Fans may not get it, but the league and it's GM's did. Bowles is back as a D-Co where he was great. Decker and Marshall are long gone. Fitz is, somehow, a starting QB for a 2020 playoff team, lol. Man that must burn some asses round here, lol. We should all hope our new Golden Boy can throw for 3,900 yards and 31 or more TD's sometime soon, so we can finally put the Fitz Era (our last decent QB season) behind us for good. 10 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt39 Posted July 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2021 40 minutes ago, ncjetman said: said he was miserable as a jet that year - maybe if he didn’t play down to his worst performance level it would have been better - i think this guy is a likable dog - big floppy beard etc but he’s a nobody in the world of the nfl - hangs around - wins a few games here and there and then sh*ts the bed every time it matters Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I mean he was a 7th round pick who’s been able to carve out a 15 year career as a quarterback…not too shabby. 7 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted July 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2021 51 minutes ago, ncjetman said: Read article where he said this - yeah you were a total turd that year - I hated you too - after you choked like a baby trying to swallow a bowling ball in last game of 2015 and continued to play like the loser you’ve always been in 16 I’m surprised you have the guts to even bring it up. This guy is so bad when it counts………. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 41 minutes ago, ncjetman said: said he was miserable as a jet that year - maybe if he didn’t play down to his worst performance level it would have been better - i think this guy is a likable dog - big floppy beard etc but he’s a nobody in the world of the nfl - hangs around - wins a few games here and there and then sh*ts the bed every time it matters Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Well, he should have never been brought back in the first place. That entire offseason of him holding the Jets hostage was laughable and the down fall of that regime. That Chiefs game was the worst QB performance I've ever seen in my entire life. 6 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Just now, JiFapono said: Well, he should have never been brought back in the first place. That entire offseason of him holding the Jets hostage was laughable and the down fall of that regime. That Chiefs game was the worst QB performance I've ever seen in my entire life. THIS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 56 minutes ago, ncjetman said: Read article where he said this - yeah you were a total turd that year - I hated you too - after you choked like a baby trying to swallow a bowling ball in last game of 2015 and continued to play like the loser you’ve always been in 16 I’m surprised you have the guts to even bring it up. This guy is so bad when it counts………. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app To be fair, (LOL) you probably should have pointed out that he also said that 15 was one of the most fun years of his career. No player has fun when you expect a good year, and the season goes to poop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 29 minutes ago, JiFapono said: Well, he should have never been brought back in the first place. That entire offseason of him holding the Jets hostage was laughable and the down fall of that regime. That Chiefs game was the worst QB performance I've ever seen in my entire life. Not picking Mahomes or Watson was their downfall. Hell if Fitz stayed after 2016 Bowles may still be here. He was significantly better than Mccown and Darnold. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Not picking Mahomes or Watson was their downfall. Hell if Fitz stayed after 2016 Bowles may still be here. He was significantly better than Mccown and Darnold. Fitzpatrick is and always will be a below average QB who should be grateful to have lasted this long in the NFL and even more thankful that Mac caved and gave him that ridiculous contract He is horrible 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I hated the Ryan Fitzpatrick era here. We needed a real QB and management decided Fitzpatrick was the answer. The journeyman loser who has never won a big game in his career. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, CSNY said: Fitzpatrick is and always will be a below average QB who should be grateful to have lasted this long in the NFL and even more thankful that Mac caved and gave him that ridiculous contract He is horrible Grateful to who? If you last this long you’ve earned it. Why you throwing shade at an overachiever? These guys are the good ones 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted July 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2021 38 minutes ago, JiFapono said: Well, he should have never been brought back in the first place. That entire offseason of him holding the Jets hostage was laughable and the down fall of that regime. That Chiefs game was the worst QB performance I've ever seen in my entire life. Eh, Fitz was awful in 2016, but it made sense to bring him back. They had to ride the lightning with Fitz and see if the 2015 success was sustainable. They had no other realistic options at QB and they had a veteran-laden team with a veteran QB coming off of a career year. The big mistake came a year later when they passed on Mahomes and Watson for a safety and then only compounded their big miss a year later by overpaying to trade up for Darnold (but who they thought at the time would probably be Mayfield). 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CSNY Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Overachiever. He was the kiss of death For any starter Any team he went to the starter inevitably got hurt and he would come in and be mediocre at best. Luckiest QB ever to be at right place every dam time. He is horrible 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 39 minutes ago, JiFapono said: That Chiefs game was the worst QB performance I've ever seen in my entire life. Was visiting my son in Des Moines that weekend. We drove down 3 hours to KC on Sunday morning for the game and another 3 hours back after the game. Fitz through one pick for each hour of driving. Also went to a game in KC in 2005. Chad fumbled 6 times and Jay FIedler once, but they only lost two of those. So the Fitz game was worse. I have no interest in ever setting foot in Arrowhead again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Warfish said: Our TEAM was a total turd that year, with a Head Coach (Bowles) on his was to 5, 5, and 4 win seasons, and riddled with injuries to key players and with key offensive players who, it turns out, had had their last gasp in the NFL in 2015. Like both Marshall and Decker at WR, neither of whom ever had productive seasons after that 2015 campaign. Decker washed out of the league after a forgettable meh season in Tenn. in 2017, Marshall had a total of 29 catches over two horrible years in 2017 and 2018 with the Giants and Seahawks. People love to say Decker and Marshall 'made' Fitz in 2015. The truth is Fitz squeezed the last drops of decent pro-level play from two clearly declining veterans WR's on their way out, both of whom were either hurt or utterly worthless that next year (2016) and both of whom were out of the NFL shortly thereafter. Fans may not get it, but the league and it's GM's did. Bowles is back as a D-Co where he was great. Decker and Marshall are long gone. Fitz is, somehow, a starting QB for a 2020 playoff team, lol. Man that must burn some asses round here, lol. We should all hope our new Golden Boy can throw for 3,900 yards and 31 or more TD's sometime soon, so we can finally put the Fitz Era (our last decent QB season) behind us for good. Nothing supports this argument, Fitz has been terrible everywhere before the Jets and after both Marshall and Decker were actually good players at one point. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, JiFapono said: Well, he should have never been brought back in the first place. That entire offseason of him holding the Jets hostage was laughable and the down fall of that regime. That Chiefs game was the worst QB performance I've ever seen in my entire life. Epic stupidity. Drove me nuts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2016 was a garbage year for the entire team. Sure, it was a mistake for Mac to think Fitz was going to have a glowing year like 2015 but you really can't blame Fitz for trying to make money off a good performance unless you feel the same way about every other player trying to get paid according to their performance. What was the alternative in 2016? Another Geno year? Give Petty the job? Try Hackenburg? Draft one of the clunker QBs from the 2016 draft in the first round? Was there another decent journeyman available? Tank after a 10-6 season? I suspect Mac thought he would get another 10-6 year out of Fitz but in retrospect I don't know that a better GM sitting in that seat had many other great options. 2016 could have easily been a bridge year to draft Mahomes or Watson in 2017. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Turns out that training during a hold out by eating chicken wings does that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Well, it's not like he's had a lot of other teams, or head coaches to compare his experience to... oh, wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, JiFapono said: Well, he should have never been brought back in the first place. That entire offseason of him holding the Jets hostage was laughable and the down fall of that regime. That Chiefs game was the worst QB performance I've ever seen in my entire life. I suggest you go to GamePass, and watch Late Nate Peterman's first starting performance for the Bills vs. the Chargers in November of '17. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, slats said: Epic stupidity. Drove me nuts. They had no one else to play QB. The knew Petty was garbage by that point. Hackenberg lol. It's not as if resigning him did any long term damage. Mac drafting two bums forced his hand back to Fitz, who's still a starting QB anyways. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: They had no one else to play QB. The knew Petty was garbage by that point. It's not as if resigning him did any long term damage. They idiotically committed to a journeyman QB not under contract and got squeezed. They had plenty of time to look in non-Petty directions and chose not to. I hand it to Fitz, understanding that he was smarter than anyone at Jets One Drive, he exposed their stupidity. He also kinda sucked. Very happy with JD & Co. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, slats said: They idiotically committed to a journeyman QB not under contract and got squeezed. They had plenty of time to look in non-Petty directions and chose not to. I hand it to Fitz, understanding that he was smarter than anyone at Jets One Drive, he exposed their stupidity. He also kinda sucked. Very happy with JD & Co. Squeezed how? Never understood this. It was a one year deal, not a commitment. The Jets screwed themselves/exposed their own stupidity by taking bum QB's in Petty and Hackeberg. They really didnt have a choice and he was the best one available coming off a good year while having rapport with Marshall and Decker. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 25 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Squeezed how? Never understood this. It was a one year deal, not a commitment. The Jets screwed themselves/exposed their own stupidity by taking bum QB's in Petty and Hackeberg. They really didnt have a choice and he was the best one available coming off a good year while having rapport with Marshall and Decker. I’m not looking it up, but it was a stupid deal for that one year that also included dead money into the following year for a season of ****y QB play. Yes, the Jets were stupid. That’s what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 45 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Squeezed how? Never understood this. It was a one year deal, not a commitment. The Jets screwed themselves/exposed their own stupidity by taking bum QB's in Petty and Hackeberg. They really didnt have a choice and he was the best one available coming off a good year while having rapport with Marshall and Decker. He/his agent knew the team had no better alternative and the next best option was considerably worse than a QB who led the team in franchise records the year prior. He nabbed $12 million for a single year in 2016. (In 2017 he was paid $3 million.) The Jets paid him $342k less than Russell Wilson in 2016. If you don't consider that squeezed then what would you call that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Every other year is Fitztragic's worst year. That is why he has bounced around the league like a super ball. I don't like him at all. A QB who has been in the NFL for 15 years and has never ever won a big game in his life. Watching him play QB is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. You just know the crash is coming. He has a weak arm and takes unnecessary risks. He was carried in 2015 by Decker and Marshall, who were both incredible and won many 50/50 balls and bailed him out of many mistakes that he makes over and over. It was clear that 2015 was an outlier and that he would never ever repeat that in 2016. He didn't deserve the contract he got in 2016 because he is not a starting caliber QB. He looks good when compared to struggling rookies, but teams rightfully replace him with the younger QBs who have potential to get better and win a big game now and then instead of never. There was no doubt he would be replaced at each of his previous 8 stops. Washington made a mistake in trusting a young and rising team with this choke artist. He is one of my least favorite NFL players and was before 2015. And his beard is just absurd. The Civil War ended 160 years ago. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 My favourite player in the league. Love how he rustles the jimmies of so many here. Amazing player to watch. Box office. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 My least favorite Jets QB of All-Time. In 2015 not only did he crap the bed week 17 vs. Buffalo but he tossed 3 4th quarter interceptions too. What really bothered me about sh*tztragic was the following offseason. Coming off of a week 17 crap performance he acted like an offseason diva. He pretended to be Joe Namath or something. He made the Jets guarantee him fully guarantee him $12,000,000 or else he would've pulled a LeBron James and "took his talents elsewhere". And how did he thank us for our $12,000,000? 2016: 3-8 overall, 56.6%, only 193 passing yards per game, 12 TDs/17 INTs and an atrocious QB Rating of only 69.6. He got paid and completely quit the following season. He's nothing more than a 59-86 career loser who's been in the league for 17 years with a combined 0 playoff starts (despite 9 different teams); he absolutely STINKS! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, CSNY said: Fitzpatrick is and always will be a below average QB who should be grateful to have lasted this long in the NFL and even more thankful that Mac caved and gave him that ridiculous contract He is horrible The issue with Fitz, and why I despise him so much, is that its entirely his own fault why he isnt a better player. And yea I clearly realize hes made millions and has had some success. This is a guy who maintains a "gun slinger" mentality like he is some sort of elite player and failed to ever embrace the nuances of actually playing the position and managing the game. Yea 2015 was fun, but in the end he threw a pick just like he always has because he couldnt learn to just play the position. And then on top of it he gets salty when people criticize him for the mistakes. Just a really unlikeable player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, BCJet said: The issue with Fitz, and why I despise him so much, is that its entirely his own fault why he isnt a better player. And yea I clearly realize hes made millions and has had some success. Just a really unlikeable player. I know you despise him too but one minor correction. He's had 0 success. 9 different teams? 17 years later? Still 0 playoff games? That's pathetic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Irish Jet said: My favourite player in the league. Love how he rustles the jimmies of so many here. Amazing player to watch. Box office. Same here. I love Fitzy. I even liked him before he was a Jet. I don't understand the hatred people have for him. He's never been a superstar, but he's a decent QB. 2015 was an enjoyable year, largely because of him. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92ShaunEllis92 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 hours ago, ncjetman said: said he was miserable as a jet that year - maybe if he didn’t play down to his worst performance level it would have been better - i think this guy is a likable dog - big floppy beard etc but he’s a nobody in the world of the nfl - hangs around - wins a few games here and there and then sh*ts the bed every time it matters Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app So, just like all the other still employed GMs out there: DON’T give Fitzmagic the Tragic a 2nd contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 hours ago, slats said: Epic stupidity. Drove me nuts. He was a one-read, stare-down QB who threw something on the order 18 dropped interceptions (on top of the 15 that weren't dropped) in 15 games (against a particularly favorable schedule at that, which even included only favorable weather). While of course not an official stat, they still happened, and it's foolishness to expect that type of unlikely luck to be repeatable. That off-season was a painful memory of one stupid, avoidable decision after the other (the handling and re-signing of Fitz was just the most clownshoes of the lot). Also a number of us called them out, one after the next, as they were happening; so it's not remotely hindsight talk. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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