Fitzpatrick- 2016 Season Worst of My Career

[Facts]

5 hours ago, joewilly12 said:

I hated the Ryan Fitzpatrick era here. We needed a real QB and management decided Fitzpatrick was the answer. The journeyman loser who has never won a big game in his career. 

This.

[peebag]

6 hours ago, JiFapono said:

That Chiefs game was the worst QB performance I've ever seen in my entire life. 

Imagine seeing it in person.

I swear, Chief fans were actually apologizing to me for how badly the Jets/Fitz were playing.

[Doggin94it]

7 hours ago, Warfish said:

Our TEAM was a total turd that year, with a Head Coach (Bowles) on his was to 5, 5, and 4 win seasons, and riddled with injuries to key players and with key offensive players who, it turns out, had had their last gasp in the NFL in 2015.  Like both Marshall and Decker at WR, neither of whom ever had productive seasons after that 2015 campaign.

Decker washed out of the league after a forgettable meh season in Tenn. in 2017, Marshall had a total of 29 catches over two horrible years in 2017 and 2018 with the Giants and Seahawks.

People love to say Decker and Marshall 'made' Fitz in 2015.  The truth is Fitz squeezed the last drops of decent pro-level play from two clearly declining veterans WR's on their way out, both of whom were either hurt or utterly worthless that next year (2016) and both of whom were out of the NFL shortly thereafter. 

Fans may not get it, but the league and it's GM's did.  Bowles is back as a D-Co where he was great.  Decker and Marshall are long gone.  Fitz is, somehow, a starting QB for a 2020 playoff team, lol.  Man that must burn some asses round here, lol.

We should all hope our new Golden Boy can throw for 3,900 yards and 31 or more TD's sometime soon, so we can finally put the Fitz Era (our last decent QB season) behind us for good.

Per the Fitztragic cycle, he's going to flame out as a starter and be benched by game 10

[Warfish]

27 minutes ago, Doggin94it said:

Per the Fitztragic cycle, he's going to flame out as a starter and be benched by game 10

He certainly might.

He might not even make it that long, many fans here want to play that kid who lost valiantly in the playoffs last year.

[AFJF]

 

Over the last three seasons, Ryan Fitzpatrick has: Higher completion percentage than Tom Brady More yds per pass attempt than Russell Wilson A higher TD% than Dak Prescott Higher total QBR than Deshaun Watson

 

Edited July 22, 2021 by AFJF

[Prepare 2 Takeoff]

That year was horrendous by all accounts but what I hate most is that every article is about how Fitz “hated” his time with the Jets when he prefaces saying how bad the 2016 season was by saying 2015 was one of his most enjoyable seasons of his career... Now it would have been much better if he just beat Buffalo to make the playoffs but he is both the king of clutch and choking. Everyone is always trying to attack Jets fans smh.

[Prepare 2 Takeoff]

6 minutes ago, AFJF said:

 

Over the last three seasons, Ryan Fitzpatrick has: Higher completion percentage than Tom Brady More yds per pass attempt than Russell Wilson A higher TD% than Dak Prescott Higher total QBR than Deshaun Watson

 

You make a great point, but may I remind you again :

 

[slimjasi]

18 hours ago, Irish Jet said:

 Amazing player to watch. Box office.

[CSNY]

9 hours ago, AFJF said:

 

Over the last three seasons, Ryan Fitzpatrick has: Higher completion percentage than Tom Brady More yds per pass attempt than Russell Wilson A higher TD% than Dak Prescott Higher total QBR than Deshaun Watson

 

This guy should not even be mentioned in the same paragraph as the others he’s being compared too. 
if your going to put up a statistic like this post his all time won loss record as well and compare that too the four players ahead of him on that list He’s an absolute Horror Show

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

32 minutes ago, CSNY said:

This guy should not even be mentioned in the same paragraph as the others he’s being compared too. 
if your going to put up a statistic like this post his all time won loss record as well and compare that too the four players ahead of him on that list He’s an absolute Horror Show

15 years. 9 teams. 0 playoff games.  Even in the stretch that Af JF finds so remarkable, he was released twice - once in favor of Winston and the other for Tua.  And he went 11-14.  Which one of these things is not like the other?  I give him credit for bamboozling 8 teams after his career started.  Washington will be in the QB market next offseason.  Will some other team pay this fool's gold?

[CSNY]

Odds are he starts WFT finds out he is terrible, bench’s him. Backup QB comes in plays great then gets hurt. Futz gets  starting QB job by default once again 

[Defense Wins Championships]

11 hours ago, AFJF said:

 

Over the last three seasons, Ryan Fitzpatrick has: Higher completion percentage than Tom Brady More yds per pass attempt than Russell Wilson A higher TD% than Dak Prescott Higher total QBR than Deshaun Watson

 

Throughout the previous 16-17 years he's played on 8-9 different teams with a career 0 playoff games. 

The difference between Mahomes, Brees, Jackson and Wilson in comparison to sh*tztragic? They aren't career losers (Fitz is a career loser). 

And all of his "stats" come in garbage time because throughout the previous 16-17 years he's got a career losing record of only 59-86-1 (.404%) and throughout the previous 3 years a losing below .500 record of 11-16 (.407%).

And the only opportunity he ever had @ a chance of making the playoffs he completely melted down (mentally) and absolutely chicken during the 4th Quarter and tossed not one, not two but three (3) 4th quarter INTs (week 17 vs. Buffalo of 2015).

Only 181 passing yards vs Buffalo?

An embarrassing completion percentage of only 43.2% vs Buffalo?

An atrocious QB Rating of only 42.7 vs Buffalo?

3 fourth quarter INTs vs Buffalo?

But yet we only lost by 5 points vs. Buffalo?!?

Fk him.

[Jet hustle]

On 7/21/2021 at 4:27 PM, JiFapono said:

 

Well, he should have never been brought back in the first place.  That entire offseason of him holding the Jets hostage was laughable and the down fall of that regime.

That Chiefs game was the worst QB performance I've ever seen in my entire life. 

Yeah,  that chiefs game was attrocious...  

[Defense Wins Championships]

20 minutes ago, Jet hustle said:

Yeah,  that chiefs game was attrocious...  

https://youtu.be/ytbddO5jf8E

There it is. 

Nothing was worse than his week 17 3 4th quarter INTs vs. Buffalo (with our playoff hopes on the line) though.

[Jet hustle]

5 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

https://youtu.be/ytbddO5jf8E

There it is. 

Nothing was worse than his week 17 3 4th quarter INTs vs. Buffalo (with our playoff hopes on the line) though.

Agreeed.  Revis and todd bowles equally to blame for that debacle.   Bowles should have been fired after that game.

[Defense Wins Championships]

13 minutes ago, Jet hustle said:

Agreeed.  Revis and todd bowles equally to blame for that debacle.   Bowles should have been fired after that game.

No way bro our Jets Defense held their QB to 0 TDs thrown and only 180 passing yards and our Defense only allowed 2 TDs throughout the entire game (despite bad field position the entire game). 

The only person to blame is Fitzpatrick who tossed three (3) 4th quarter INTs and we still only lost by 5 points despite sh*tztragic only throwing for an awful 181passing yards, an atrocious completion percentage of only 43% and an embarrassing QB Rating of 42.7. He stunk!

Yes Watkins whooped an aging Revis but overall our Defense played awesome and unfortunately had a QB who killed them with multiple 3 and outs before not one, not two but 3 fourth quarter INTs. 

Our Run defense was also lights out while giving up av average yards per carry of only 2.6 yards per carry despite defending the run 43x times.

Our Defense also had 2 sacks and 5 tackles for loss. 

The only one who deserves blame for week 17 was Ryan Fitzpatrick because our Defense and Todd Bowles did everything within their willpower to keep that game CLOSE!

[Prodigal Syndicate]

Awful QB. Astonishes me he still has people that defend him. But then again people here were defending Darnold his whole career.

Fitz is the definition of a one read chucker and stat padder. Every single time he had to play a game of importance  he failed miserably.

 

[AFJF]

5 hours ago, CSNY said:

This guy should not even be mentioned in the same paragraph as the others he’s being compared too. 
if your going to put up a statistic like this post his all time won loss record as well and compare that too the four players ahead of him on that list He’s an absolute Horror Show

Unless you're doing a statistical comparison of the past 3 years.  In that case you would have to mention Fitzpatrick or you'd be intentionally leaving out a player who his performing to that level and that would be mean.

[Defense Wins Championships]

43 minutes ago, AFJF said:

Unless you're doing a statistical comparison of the past 3 years.  In that case you would have to mention Fitzpatrick or you'd be intentionally leaving out a player who his performing to that level and that would be mean.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

He's only started 27 games throughout the previous 3 years and has a losing record of 11-16.

His QB Rating throughout the previous 3 years combined =

2018 QB Rating = 9th.

2019 QB Rating = 23rd.

2020 QB Rating = 17th.

This bum is the definition of mediocre and 17 years and 9 teams later with 0 PLAYOFF GAMES doesn't lie. 

And over the previous 3 years it's completely disrespectful to mention him alongside the likes of elite Pro Bowl and All-Pro QBs. 

Career highlights and awards
Ivy League Player of the Year (2004) First-team All–Ivy League (2004) Ivy League champion (2004) 17 years later and still doesn't have an NFL award. Not an All-Pro. Not a Pro-Bowl. Not a comeback Player of the Year. No nothing. Not even a single playoff game.

[Matt39]

9 hours ago, Jet hustle said:

Agreeed.  Revis and todd bowles equally to blame for that debacle.   Bowles should have been fired after that game.

Revis was covering Watkins that game like he had the crab

[rangerous]

Fitzy and Mac did this to themselves.  Fitzy signed late and Mac didn’t have the stones to tell him to kiss off.  Bowles didn’t help either by anointing fitzy as the next seasons QBs before he was signed. Consequently geno was the QBs through all of the ota’s and won the job at least in the eyes of guys like hit an and wilky and Shelly.  When fitzy came back the team was divided and he just wasn’t good enough to win them over, especially when decker went down and Marshall was injured.

[AFJF]

7 hours ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

He's only started 27 games throughout the previous 3 years and has a losing record of 11-16.

His QB Rating throughout the previous 3 years combined =

2018 QB Rating = 9th.

2019 QB Rating = 23rd.

2020 QB Rating = 17th.

This bum is the definition of mediocre and 17 years and 9 teams later with 0 PLAYOFF GAMES doesn't lie. 

And over the previous 3 years it's completely disrespectful to mention him alongside the likes of elite Pro Bowl and All-Pro QBs. 

Career highlights and awards
Ivy League Player of the Year (2004) First-team All–Ivy League (2004) Ivy League champion (2004) 17 years later and still doesn't have an NFL award. Not an All-Pro. Not a Pro-Bowl. Not a comeback Player of the Year. No nothing. Not even a single playoff game.

Like 'em or not, the numbers are what they are.  

[Biggs]

Just proves that money can't buy happiness.  He hasn't made near as much in any year since.  

[Warfish]

7 hours ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

This bum is the definition of mediocre and 17 years and 9 teams later with 0 PLAYOFF GAMES doesn't lie. 

You're right, he is.  He's a loser too, never having made the postseason.

And yet, he still produced the 2nd best QB production season of any Jets QB behind only the very best season of Joe Namath.  Let that sink in.  And no, as proven previous, he wasn't carried by anyone, least of all the two WR's the NFL promptly dumped out of the league due to sucking.

What does that say about all those other Jets QB's, QB's many of you have at various times called "elite" and "special"?

It's not really so much that anyone defends Fitz. Fitz is what Fitz is. He doesn't need defended, surely not by anyone here, he's a starting QB in his like 83rd season, lol.  The NFL continuing to give him jobs and millions of dollars is all the defense he likely needs, lol.

Truth is that Fitz (and Mangold, and that 2015 team) provided about the only flash of actual enjoyable FUN this moribund franchise has had the last 10+ years.  We had a great fun ride that year.

Did it end in disappointment, and was that mostly on Fitz, absolutely it did and absolutely it was.  Did our GM utterly mismanage the next year, he absolutely did. Were we wracked by injuries that next year, unquestionably we were (it's simply a fact).  Did Fitz play worse in 2016, he absolutely did, especially in that one memorable horror-show of a game.  2016 was a sh*tshow all round.

But as I say every time someone here gets butthurt AGAIN over something from six years ago now......wake me when we actually get a QB who can wipe Fitz off the record sheet by out producing him.  Doesn't seem like a huge ask, does it?  

Lets be honest, if we had a QB who was producing more than Fitz did that year, we wouldn't still be having Fitz threads in 2021 talking about 2016, or Jets Fans being butthurt than Fitz had as little fun in 2016 as we Fans did.  Heaven forbid, lol.

 

[Adoni Beast]

6 picks in a game….6. 

[Defense Wins Championships]

28 minutes ago, Warfish said:

You're right, he is.  He's a loser too, never having made the postseason.

And yet, he still produced the 2nd best QB production season of any Jets QB behind only the very best season of Joe Namath.  Let that sink in. 

 

That's completely false. 

Broadway Vinny of 1998 had much better overall statical production and also went 12-1 with a QB Rating of 101.1. AFC Championship Game appearance too. 

Chad Pennington of 2002 also had much better statistical production and went 8-4 with a QB Rating of 104.2 and also destroyed Peyton Manning in the playoffs 41-0. 

Ryan Fitzpatrick? He only had a QB Rating of 88.0 and completely missed the playoffs because of an atrocious 3 INTs during the 4th quarter of a week 17 game.

Please stop forgetting about Vinny of 1998 and Penny of 2002 because in regards to overall QB performance they both had way more magical QB seasons @ QB than "Fitzpatrick of 2015". 

[Warfish]

33 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

That's completely false. 

Broadway Vinny of 1998 had much better overall statical production and also went 12-1 with a QB Rating of 101.1. AFC Championship Game appearance too. 

Chad Pennington of 2002 also had much better statistical production and went 8-4 with a QB Rating of 104.2 and also destroyed Peyton Manning in the playoffs 41-0. 

Ryan Fitzpatrick? He only had a QB Rating of 88.0 and completely missed the playoffs because of an atrocious 3 INTs during the 4th quarter of a week 17 game.

Please stop forgetting about Vinny of 1998 and Penny of 2002 because in regards to overall QB performance they both had way more magical QB seasons @ QB than "Fitzpatrick of 2015". 

QB Rating isn't the metric used to determine overall QB production. 

A QB could have thrown only two passes, and have a perfect QB rating, that would not make them more productive than Namath.

Passing Yards and TD's.  That is the metrics for which my "2nd best QB production season" was based around.

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

1 hour ago, AFJF said:

Like 'em or not, the numbers are what they are.  

Fitzgarbage has Pennington's arm (post injury), Favre's brain (riverboat gambler trying to force everything), and Brady's arrogance (He thinks he's a great QB).  That is a horrible combination.

[AFJF]

3 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

Fitzgarbage has Pennington's arm (post injury), Favre's brain (riverboat gambler trying to force everything), and Brady's arrogance (He thinks he's a great QB).  That is a horrible combination.

Seems to have worked out alright for him thus far.  Seventeen years and how many millions earned?  All that and one of the top rated QB's in the NFL over he past three seasons.  For a 7th round pick that's pretty good.

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

21 minutes ago, Warfish said:

QB Rating isn't the metric used to determine overall QB production. 

A QB could have thrown only two passes, and have a perfect QB rating, that would not make them more productive than Namath.

Passing Yards and TD's.  That is the metrics for which my "2nd best QB production season" was based around.

You are smarter than that.  Yards and TDs can't be the only QB metric that matters.  

Fitz was definitely carried by Decker and Marshall in 2015 and a lot of good fortune.  It was an entire season of him throwing the ball and saying "go get it" and they did. They were both phenomenal.  Fitz' constant errant throws were harmless, until Buffalo.  I don't see the magic in 2015. For me, it was a frustrating season that ended in an unbelievably frustrating loss because Fitz and Revis crapped the bed in a big spot.  It was no different than 2000 when the Jets blew the last game vs Baltimore on Christmas Eve in unbelievable fashion.  Missing the playoffs by one game where defeat is snatched from the jaws of victory is not fun.  Fitz is a clown, from his play to his beard to his inflated view of himself.  

[Matt39]

3 hours ago, rangerous said:

Fitzy and Mac did this to themselves.  Fitzy signed late and Mac didn’t have the stones to tell him to kiss off.  Bowles didn’t help either by anointing fitzy as the next seasons QBs before he was signed. Consequently geno was the QBs through all of the ota’s and won the job at least in the eyes of guys like hit an and wilky and Shelly.  When fitzy came back the team was divided and he just wasn’t good enough to win them over, especially when decker went down and Marshall was injured.

Who were they going to play? The rest of the roster was Geno, Petty and Hack. First two we knew were bums already and Hackenberg was even worse

[flgreen]

3 hours ago, Biggs said:

Just proves that money can't buy happiness.  He hasn't made near as much in any year since.  

$10.6M isn't bad for a 39 YO.    That's what Washington is paying him this year.    Think he's pretty happy.

Geno Smith, on the other hand is making $1M.  He's probably not real happy

[rangerous]

6 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Who were they going to play? The rest of the roster was Geno, Petty and Hack. First two we knew were bums already and Hackenberg was even worse

On paper, I suppose you can argue that fitzy was the best choice. My point is fitzy and Mac, because of the drawn out negotiations and fitzy finally strolling into training camp created some dissension within the team. Geno was able to win over the team in the spring and summer and then created more dissension when fitzy reported.  This is my opinion. I doubt if Bowles or Mac would confirm but it sure seemed like Marshall was getting into it with Shelly and the hit man.

[Matt39]

21 minutes ago, rangerous said:

On paper, I suppose you can argue that fitzy was the best choice. My point is fitzy and Mac, because of the drawn out negotiations and fitzy finally strolling into training camp created some dissension within the team. Geno was able to win over the team in the spring and summer and then created more dissension when fitzy reported.  This is my opinion. I doubt if Bowles or Mac would confirm but it sure seemed like Marshall was getting into it with Shelly and the hit man.

At this point who cares really. Geno sucked, Fitz was a career journeyman and Maccagnan was the worst GM in nfl history

[Defense Wins Championships]

10 hours ago, Warfish said:

QB Rating isn't the metric used to determine overall QB production. 

A QB could have thrown only two passes, and have a perfect QB rating, that would not make them more productive than Namath.

Passing Yards and TD's.  That is the metrics for which my "2nd best QB production season" was based around.

QB Rating takes into account every QB statistic possible (combined).

And thank God Vinny and Penny didn't have only "two passes" but rather 421 pass attempts (Vinny) and 399 attempts (Pennington). 

Winning Percentage:

Vinny = 12-1 (.923%).

Pennington = 8-4 (.666%)

Fitzpatrick = 10-6 (.625%).

Passing Yards Per Start:

Pennington = 260 yards per game. 

Vinny = 250.4 yards per game. 

Fitzpatrick = 244.1 yards per game. 

Yards Per Pass Attempt:

Pennington = 7.8 yards per pass attempt.

Vinny = 7.7 yards per pass attempt. 

Fitzpatrick = 6.9 yards per pass attempt. 

Completions Per Start:

Pennington = 22.9 completions per start. 

Fitzpatrick = 20.9 completions per game.

Vinny = 19.9 completions per start.

Completion Percentage: 

Pennington = 68.9%. 

Vinny = 61.5%. 

Fitzpatrick = 59.6. 

TDs Per Start:

Vinny = 29 TDs (2.23 TDs per start).

Fitzpatrick = 31 TDs (1.93 TDs per start). 

Pennington = 22 TDs (1.83 TDs per start). 

INT Rate%

Pennington = 6 INTs (1.5%). 

Vinny = 7 INTs (1.7%). 

Fitzpatrick = 15 INTs (2.7%). 

QB Rating:

Pennington = 104.2. 

Vinny = 106 QB Rating. 

Fitzpatrick = 88.0. 

Passing Rating:

Pennington = 138. 

Vinny = 129. 

Fitzpatrick = 98. 

Playoff Yards and TDs: Since Passing Yards and TDs are all that matters to you ?

Pennington = 405 passing yards and 4 TDs. 

Vinny = 640 passing yards and 1 TD. 

sh*tztragic = 0 passing yards and 0 TDs.

There is more to excellent QB play than "yards and TDs" and as you can see Ryan Fitzpatrick of 2015 has 0 1st place finishes but yet 8 last place finishes. Couldn't even lead his team to the playoffs (due to 3 4th quarter week 17 INTs). 

In no way shape or form was 2015 Fitzpatrick "better" than 1998 Vinny and/or 2002 Chad Pennington because it wasn't even close.