LIJetsFan Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Neither James Morgan nor Mike White has ever thrown an NFL regular-season pass. Can one emerge as a reliable backup for Zach Wilson? By Michael Nania 07/27/2021 Importance of the backup quarterback James Morgan and Mike White have each thrown exactly zero passes in an NFL regular-season game. For that reason, they will have a mountain of pressure on their shoulders throughout the upcoming training camp and preseason. The backup quarterback position is a crucial one in the NFL. This past season, only 13 quarterbacks started all 16 games, meaning that over half of the league’s teams started a backup quarterback in at least one game. Twenty quarterbacks started at least 15 games, leaving 12 teams – over one-third of the league – to start a backup quarterback in at least two games. Jets fans know the importance of the backup quarterback position all too well. They have not seen a quarterback start all 16 games since Ryan Fitzpatrick in 2015, and even then, Fitzpatrick missed the majority of a game against the Raiders, with Geno Smith taking over for him. Over the 43 seasons that have passed since the NFL increased its schedule to 16 games in 1978, the Jets have only had 15 seasons with a 16-game starting quarterback (35% of seasons). Most likely, presumed starter Zach Wilson is going to go down for at least one game, and unless the Jets add a veteran quarterback at some point over the next month-plus, the keys to the franchise will be plopped into the palms of either Morgan or White. Mike White’s background is not promising While White has never played in a regular-season game, he does have a lot of NFL film on his reel, and it is mostly uninspiring. White appeared in all eight of the Dallas Cowboys’ preseason games from 2018-19 after being selected out of Western Kentucky in the fifth round of the 2018 NFL draft. He played extensively in each game, dropping back at least 10 times in every contest. Over his two-year preseason career with the Cowboys, White completed 80 of 138 passes (58.0%) for 719 yards (5.2 per attempt), one touchdown, and two interceptions (68.5 passer rating). He earned an overall Pro Football Focus grade below 56.0 in every appearance. One of White’s primary issues was his pocket presence. He was a sack-taking machine, absorbing 13 sacks against his 138 attempts for a sack rate of 8.6%. For reference, the only qualified quarterbacks to take sacks more frequently in the 2020 regular season were Carson Wentz (10.3%), Daniel Jones (9.1%), and Sam Darnold (8.8%). White will surely get quite a few more opportunities this preseason. The 26-year-old needs to show that he has made substantial progress in the two years that have passed since his last appearance. James Morgan has the tools but needs development Standing at 6-foot-4 and 229 pounds with long arms, big hands, and a powerful arm, Morgan, 24, is the prototype pocket passer. However, he will need to make a lot of technical and fundamental refinements to thrive in the NFL after he failed to dominate the weak competition he faced as a redshirt senior at Florida International. Over 12 games in 2019, Morgan completed 207 of 357 passes (58.0%) for 2,585 yards (7.2 per attempt), 14 touchdowns, and five interceptions. His NCAA passer rating of 128.9 only ranked ninth among Conference USA quarterbacks that year. Morgan put himself on the map with a great campaign in 2018. In his first season at FIU following a transfer from Bowling Green, Morgan led Conference USA with a 157.6 NCAA passer rating. He must return to that level if he is to beat out White for the Jets’ backup quarterback job. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larz Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 One of them is getting starter reps tomorrow we shall see 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBarrioJets Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 We should all be rooting for that. Even a whiff of preseason QB success may turn into trade value down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, ElBarrioJets said: We should all be rooting for that. Even a whiff of preseason QB success may turn into trade value down the road. ...or an actual low cost backup QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanShawn Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: Neither James Morgan nor Mike White has ever thrown an NFL regular-season pass. Can one emerge as a reliable backup for Zach Wilson? By Michael Nania 07/27/2021 Importance of the backup quarterback James Morgan and Mike White have each thrown exactly zero passes in an NFL regular-season game. For that reason, they will have a mountain of pressure on their shoulders throughout the upcoming training camp and preseason. The backup quarterback position is a crucial one in the NFL. This past season, only 13 quarterbacks started all 16 games, meaning that over half of the league’s teams started a backup quarterback in at least one game. Twenty quarterbacks started at least 15 games, leaving 12 teams – over one-third of the league – to start a backup quarterback in at least two games. Jets fans know the importance of the backup quarterback position all too well. They have not seen a quarterback start all 16 games since Ryan Fitzpatrick in 2015, and even then, Fitzpatrick missed the majority of a game against the Raiders, with Geno Smith taking over for him. Over the 43 seasons that have passed since the NFL increased its schedule to 16 games in 1978, the Jets have only had 15 seasons with a 16-game starting quarterback (35% of seasons). Most likely, presumed starter Zach Wilson is going to go down for at least one game, and unless the Jets add a veteran quarterback at some point over the next month-plus, the keys to the franchise will be plopped into the palms of either Morgan or White. Mike White’s background is not promising While White has never played in a regular-season game, he does have a lot of NFL film on his reel, and it is mostly uninspiring. White appeared in all eight of the Dallas Cowboys’ preseason games from 2018-19 after being selected out of Western Kentucky in the fifth round of the 2018 NFL draft. He played extensively in each game, dropping back at least 10 times in every contest. Over his two-year preseason career with the Cowboys, White completed 80 of 138 passes (58.0%) for 719 yards (5.2 per attempt), one touchdown, and two interceptions (68.5 passer rating). He earned an overall Pro Football Focus grade below 56.0 in every appearance. One of White’s primary issues was his pocket presence. He was a sack-taking machine, absorbing 13 sacks against his 138 attempts for a sack rate of 8.6%. For reference, the only qualified quarterbacks to take sacks more frequently in the 2020 regular season were Carson Wentz (10.3%), Daniel Jones (9.1%), and Sam Darnold (8.8%). White will surely get quite a few more opportunities this preseason. The 26-year-old needs to show that he has made substantial progress in the two years that have passed since his last appearance. James Morgan has the tools but needs development Standing at 6-foot-4 and 229 pounds with long arms, big hands, and a powerful arm, Morgan, 24, is the prototype pocket passer. However, he will need to make a lot of technical and fundamental refinements to thrive in the NFL after he failed to dominate the weak competition he faced as a redshirt senior at Florida International. Over 12 games in 2019, Morgan completed 207 of 357 passes (58.0%) for 2,585 yards (7.2 per attempt), 14 touchdowns, and five interceptions. His NCAA passer rating of 128.9 only ranked ninth among Conference USA quarterbacks that year. Morgan put himself on the map with a great campaign in 2018. In his first season at FIU following a transfer from Bowling Green, Morgan led Conference USA with a 157.6 NCAA passer rating. He must return to that level if he is to beat out White for the Jets’ backup quarterback job. prefect qustien because zach wilson isint ready Rokie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Backup? One of those scrubs is currently our starter, getting all those precious reps. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I like James Morgan. I think he can be our Pat Ryan. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Highly doubtful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 So far JD is just sitting back waiting for a competent QB and DB to shake free...........we hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Quote Can James Morgan or Mike White emerge as the NY Jets’ backup QB? Can they? Sure, why not. Will they? We'll find out once they start taking snaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Heard White outplayed Darnold last camp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Treehorn Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I was about to make another Capt Morgan joke, but that isn’t funny anymore. Incredible if they don’t manage to get their rookie #2 overall QB to get every single rep there is with the team. Just incredible. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 51 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said: Heard White outplayed Darnold last camp So did the ball boy and the jugs machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GreenFish Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Captain Morgan is the best QB on the team. He’s got the goods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 This situation like our Fg situation smacks of a crisis at some point this season. I'll say one thing if something happened to wilson in season next year and the jets are scrambling to find a vet to play a week later i'll be very upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 hours ago, LIJetsFan said: Neither James Morgan nor Mike White has ever thrown an NFL regular-season pass. Can one emerge as a reliable backup for Zach Wilson? By Michael Nania 07/27/2021 Importance of the backup quarterback James Morgan and Mike White have each thrown exactly zero passes in an NFL regular-season game. For that reason, they will have a mountain of pressure on their shoulders throughout the upcoming training camp and preseason. The backup quarterback position is a crucial one in the NFL. This past season, only 13 quarterbacks started all 16 games, meaning that over half of the league’s teams started a backup quarterback in at least one game. Twenty quarterbacks started at least 15 games, leaving 12 teams – over one-third of the league – to start a backup quarterback in at least two games. Jets fans know the importance of the backup quarterback position all too well. They have not seen a quarterback start all 16 games since Ryan Fitzpatrick in 2015, and even then, Fitzpatrick missed the majority of a game against the Raiders, with Geno Smith taking over for him. Over the 43 seasons that have passed since the NFL increased its schedule to 16 games in 1978, the Jets have only had 15 seasons with a 16-game starting quarterback (35% of seasons). Most likely, presumed starter Zach Wilson is going to go down for at least one game, and unless the Jets add a veteran quarterback at some point over the next month-plus, the keys to the franchise will be plopped into the palms of either Morgan or White. Mike White’s background is not promising While White has never played in a regular-season game, he does have a lot of NFL film on his reel, and it is mostly uninspiring. White appeared in all eight of the Dallas Cowboys’ preseason games from 2018-19 after being selected out of Western Kentucky in the fifth round of the 2018 NFL draft. He played extensively in each game, dropping back at least 10 times in every contest. Over his two-year preseason career with the Cowboys, White completed 80 of 138 passes (58.0%) for 719 yards (5.2 per attempt), one touchdown, and two interceptions (68.5 passer rating). He earned an overall Pro Football Focus grade below 56.0 in every appearance. One of White’s primary issues was his pocket presence. He was a sack-taking machine, absorbing 13 sacks against his 138 attempts for a sack rate of 8.6%. For reference, the only qualified quarterbacks to take sacks more frequently in the 2020 regular season were Carson Wentz (10.3%), Daniel Jones (9.1%), and Sam Darnold (8.8%). White will surely get quite a few more opportunities this preseason. The 26-year-old needs to show that he has made substantial progress in the two years that have passed since his last appearance. James Morgan has the tools but needs development Standing at 6-foot-4 and 229 pounds with long arms, big hands, and a powerful arm, Morgan, 24, is the prototype pocket passer. However, he will need to make a lot of technical and fundamental refinements to thrive in the NFL after he failed to dominate the weak competition he faced as a redshirt senior at Florida International. Over 12 games in 2019, Morgan completed 207 of 357 passes (58.0%) for 2,585 yards (7.2 per attempt), 14 touchdowns, and five interceptions. His NCAA passer rating of 128.9 only ranked ninth among Conference USA quarterbacks that year. Morgan put himself on the map with a great campaign in 2018. In his first season at FIU following a transfer from Bowling Green, Morgan led Conference USA with a 157.6 NCAA passer rating. He must return to that level if he is to beat out White for the Jets’ backup quarterback job. White yes. Morgan No. The Captain will be to busy starting in Zach Wilson’s stead. I do think once he gets to camp, Zach will easily take the back up duties from White. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Im looking forward to hearing about James Morgan’s performance w the starters tomorrow. I think he will surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 When I read the title I thought the thread was a poster asking that question. I was like damn, really couldn't have just asked this in the sign a vet QB thread? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: I'm looking forward to hearing about James Morgan’s performance w the starters tomorrow. I think he will surprise. Yeah I think JD has in the back of his mind that if he can't get Zack to sign sooner rather than later then at least he'll get a good look at these other two. I'm liking JD more and more as time goes by; now we just need some wins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 As of right now, barring some incredible performance in camp, I definitely don't think White has a place on the final roster. I'm not sure he's even shown enough to be the 3rd QB that's never active. I know absolutely nothing about Morgan. These practices are the first that any of us are going to get to see him play. Either way, I think the Jets should be bringing in a vet QB. I doubt the team goes into the season with just 2 QBs on the 53. Last year they had 3 for the most part: Sam, Flacco and Morgan as the not active on game day 3rd guy. If Morgan shows enough to be #2, great (although if didn't sound like it from reports during minicamp) but the 3rd QB on the roster, imo, should be a vet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Are people really trying to sell themselves a narrative that Zach missing snaps is good because we'll find out what we have in White and Morgan? I'll tell you what we have and Zach can just take the snaps. They're Christian Hackenberg levels of good. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: Yeah I think JD has in the back of his mind that if he can't get Zack to sign sooner rather than later then at least he'll get a good look at these other two. I'm liking JD more and more as time goes by; now we just need some wins. I've been a huge fan of JD, but being okay with your 2nd overall all pick QB not being at camp so that we can get a better look at a 4th round backup and career practice squad player IS NOT a positive thing. The thought of that is actually terrifying 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, jeremy2020 said: Are people really trying to sell themselves a narrative that Zach missing snaps is good because we'll find out what we have in White and Morgan? I'll tell you what we have and Zach can just take the snaps. They're Christian Hackenberg levels of good. Just now, MichaelScott said: I've been a huge fan of JD, but being okay with your 2nd overall all pick QB not being at camp so that we can get a better look at a 4th round backup and career practice squad player IS NOT a positive thing. The thought of that is actually terrifying Haha read my mind you literally beat me to it by seconds. That notion re Zack missing is absolute insanity!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Loved White coming out of WKU. Really rooting for him to win the backup job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Are people really trying to sell themselves a narrative that Zach missing snaps is good because we'll find out what we have in White and Morgan? I'll tell you what we have and Zach can just take the snaps. They're Christian Hackenberg levels of good. I didn't say it was good I said AT LEAST there is a good that comes out of it. Geesh, people love to nitpick. Getting a look at his other QB's might put JD at less disadvantage during negotiations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Penguins will fly first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 James Morgan when Zach finally shows up to camp. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 6 hours ago, Obrien2Toon said: Heard White outplayed Darnold last camp Not even possible. Darnold was the best qb the Jets have ever had! Didn’t you hear? It was all Adam Gase’s fault! That and a lack of talent around him. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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