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2 minutes ago, Paradis said:

80+% of the time you seem like a normal guy on here.... but then there's these childish episodes... diatribes we'll call them.

It's not a great look. 

Except his comment was 100% correct.

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i was told their would be tweets

How about this for a random suggestion? Keep this thread limited to posts about what's going on today in training camp.  Take the rest somewhere else. 

Damien Woody is the best guy to listen to for this stuff. Fair and real. 

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3 hours ago, Patriot Killa said:

 

 

 

Yikes, it’s the condescending wording for me, but, no, JiF didn’t treat every single Wilson fan like a clueless asshat for months and months in those draft threads, no way. 

even if JiF never spoke a word about it again after draft night and extended his hand out to you in the form of a truce, you should forget how much of a dick he was to people who simply had a different opinion, and you should like him again because he never said anything about it ever again.

It’s not that I don’t like you over a difference in opinion, I don’t like you because you treated 50% of this board like they were clowns for seeing somethin on film that you didn’t. You went into my Wilson Under Pressure thread, said kudos, then went to win4ever’s much more negative Wilson thread and said man those losers are over there circle jerking and they have no idea what they’re talking about.

Then you come on here and act like everyone else is just bitter and you aren’t an a$$hole, which you are.

now at the risk of making this TC thread all about us, maybe let’s dance again some other time.

JiF is one of the worst people on the planet.

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1 hour ago, Bruce Harper said:

Dude's gotta learn the difference between errant and errand.  He's supposed to be a professional writer.

Seriously 

He’s done it multiple times a day ever since TC started.

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32 minutes ago, Paradis said:

80+% of the time you seem like a normal guy on here.... but then there's these childish episodes... diatribes we'll call them.

It's not a great look. 

If it’s me you’re looking for just say that lol

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4 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

Genuinely an industry of hacks. Just laughable how low the standards are in sports media. 

I mean, sure.  I expect them not to be terribly good writers, but I also expect them to have basic mastery of the language.

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2 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

 

 

You guys are getting hung up on errand/errant and no one's gonna mention, "an actually pick."

In my defense, I'm currently at the bar.

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1 hour ago, HighPitch said:

Its ok.

JIF all but guaranteed thats Mims will not bust. Impossible.

Dont be a realist um i mean negative or he will make a snarky comment. 
 

It doesnt matter how badhe looks. Even if he slips to 4 string next week it means nothing. Too early. Jif said so

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At newspapers, I believe they first get the police blotter, to see if they can stand the hours. Then, feature writing. Failing that, off to fluffy restaurant and community events. Failing that, off to the sports desk. If they can't hack that, off to the Manish-style independent blog, written in the parents' basement. 

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19 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

If it’s me you’re looking for just say that lol

Paranoia is a hell of drug lol

I quoted a different poster. 

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Breaking down Zach Wilson’s busy first Jets practice

July 30, 2021 | 2:22pm | Updated

 

Zach Wilson’s bank account got a lot bigger this week when he signed his contract with the Jets after a brief standoff over the language in the deal.

Wilson will get his $22.9 million signing bonus within the next 15 days. When asked Friday if he had a dream purchase to make with that new money, Wilson delivered a line to make Jets fans smile.

“You can’t buy a Super Bowl, so I guess I have to work for that,” the 21-year-old rookie quarterback said.

Wilson went through his first training camp practice Friday after missing the first two days of camp while his agent and the Jets haggled over his contract. With that behind him, now he can worry about football.

His first practice was a rough one, which was not a surprise considering it was his first time facing a defense in six weeks. Wilson completed 5-of-10 passes in team drills with one interception. There were some passes that sailed high and some that were behind receivers. The Jets gave him all of the first-team reps and even a few with the second team as he tries to catch up after missed time.

Zach Wilson at his first official Jets practice on July 30, 2021. Charles Wenzelberg/New York Post

Jets coach Robert Saleh chalked his struggles up to the defense being ahead of the offense at this point in training camp and said this is all just part of his learning curve.

“For him, it’s getting caught up, finding a way to get better every day,” Saleh said. “I know sometimes we can get focused on results, but there’s process. He’s got a tremendous process. You can’t control certain things that happen play in and play out but you can control your process and how you approach things day in and day out.”

Wilson echoed his coach, saying he will learn from the mistakes he made.

“That’s what practice is for,” Wilson said. “Every day is going to have something frustrating. That’s why I’m out here. I’m just trying to learn each day, just knowing my plays better and the different looks the defense is throwing at us. It’s going to be a process.”

The Jets selected Wilson with the No. 2 overall pick out of BYU, moving on from Sam Darnold and tabbing Wilson to be their next would-be franchise savior. There was a hiccup this week as Wilson was the last draft pick to sign his contract as the two sides argued not over money, but contract language.

Zach Wilson at his first official Jets practice on July 30, 2021. Charles Wenzelberg/New York Post

Wilson said he was anxious to get to camp as he trained in California with his personal coach, John Beck. On Wednesday night, Wilson took a red-eye flight to New Jersey and then signed his contract Thursday afternoon.

“There’s a part of you want to just get it done but you want to get it done the right way,” Wilson said. “It’s a rookie contract that you’re going to have to play with for four years. You’ve got to handle the business side of it where both sides of the party can agree. We just had to make sure we got that done.”

Saleh stopped short of saying Wilson is going to be the starting quarterback for Week 1 in Carolina, but it is clear that barring something crazy, Wilson is the guy.

Zach Wilson at his first official Jets practice on July 30, 2021. Charles Wenzelberg/New York Post

“Call it the inside lane. It’s his to lose,” Saleh said. “I never want to make a promise I can’t keep. He took all the first team reps. It’s just a matter of him continuing to get better like we know he will.”

Wilson has already been hit with a difficult situation to deal with after the death of assistant coach Greg Knapp, who was the main coach working with Wilson in the spring. Knapp died last week after getting hit by a car while riding his bike.

 

“At first it was shock just because I had just been talking to him the day before the incident happened,” Wilson said. “It was almost like I didn’t believe it. I felt like I could have called him right then and he would have picked up the phone and answered. It really hit kind of later on. I was like, ‘this is rough.’ I was just praying for him and his family. It’s tough, man. Life is a precious thing.”

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2 minutes ago, flgreen said:

“For him, it’s getting caught up, finding a way to get better every day,” Saleh said. “I know sometimes we can get focused on results, but there’s process. He’s got a tremendous process. You can’t control certain things that happen play in and play out but you can control your process and how you approach things day in and day out.”

I have such a man crush on this guy. Leader of men who makes people accountable but has his player's backs.

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Zach Wilson struggles through his first training camp practice with Jets

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS |
JUL 30, 2021 AT 2:37 PM

The energy was there to start practice. Zach Wilson was back and it was time to rock and roll. But the only unit rolling was from the defense.

Every day practice brings positives and negatives. So here’s the bad news: Wilson’s first day back after missing the first two days of training camp was rough.

 

When you include the OTA and minicamp practices, it’s the worst Wilson has looked since being drafted by the Jets.

Wilson knew it wasn’t his best performance.

 

“Everyday is going to have something frustrating,” Wilson said a day after finally signing his rookie contract. “But it’s going to be a process.”

Zach Wilson struggles through his first practice after finally get his rookie contract signed.
Zach Wilson struggles through his first practice after finally get his rookie contract signed. (Bill Kostroun/AP)

Wilson had inaccurate throws that sailed high and one resulted in an interception by Marcus Maye. At times, the rookie was hesitant because he wasn’t reading the defense quickly. His timing wasn’t good with his receivers and there were moments when he held the ball too long that resulted in sacks.

During team drills Wilson was 5-of-10 with a touchdown to Corey Davis and the INT.

Wilson started the practice with a bang, with a long bomb to Elijah Moore on a post route for 40 yards.

Jets Twitter was excited, but in reality it wasn’t a great pass. The ball was under thrown. It floated before finally dropping into Moore’s arms as he fell to the grass. Most of the credit for the completion goes to the second round pick because Bryce Hall had tight coverage.

The franchise quarterback even acknowledged the pass should have been better.

“Not the greatest ball, something I can clean up,” Wilson said. “I could put it out there more to the left and let him run to it.”

That bomb was the highlight of the day, but red zone 7-on-7 was the low point.

Wilson was 1-for-6 and there were plays when he wasn’t seeing the field well.

Wilson’s first throw to Tevin Coleman was in the flat but it was behind the running back and fell incomplete. His next throw was a high dart into triple coverage to Chris Herndon that resulted in an incompletion. On the next play, the No. 2 overall pick threw a fade route to Keenan Cole, but Hall broke up the play.

The following sequence, the Jets put Wilson on the move as they rolled him right with a quick pick play to Jamison Crowder but Javelin Guidry had air-tight coverage. Incomplete. Right after, Wilson held the ball as nobody was open and scrambled before forcing it into a small window. No good. His only completion of the series was to Austin Walter on a flat route.

Some of Wilson’s struggles was what the defense was doing to create a tough period for him.

“They mixed it up today with the one high zone [look] in the red zone,” Wilson said. “We just got to just find a way to execute down there.”

Friday was rough for the former BYU quarterback but here’s the good news: It’s practice and as the Hall of Famer Allen Iverson once said “We talkin’ about practice, not the game.”

Rough practices don’t result in a loss or win for the Jets.

This is preparation for the regular season that begins against the Carolina Panthers on Sept. 12. Days like this are a learning experience.

And to be fair, this was Wilson’s first practice with the offense. Friday was the defense’s third practice, so they’re supposed to look better against a rookie QB on his first day. They’re getting more comfortable with head coach Robert Saleh’s defensive system and it showed Friday.

Saleh knows it’s going to be a long process for his quarterback, but he has confidence in Wilson because of his mental makeup.

“For him it’s just finding a way to get better every day,” Saleh said. “Sometimes we can get focused on results, but there’s a process and he’s got a tremendous process. Can’t control certain things that happen, play in and play out, but you can control your process day in and day out. I already get a good feel just going through the draft process and OTAs, he’s going to have great processing.”

How Wilson bounces back Saturday is important. What a quarterback does when he faces some adversity is extremely valuable.

Let’s see what the former BYU quarterback does on Day 2.

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Zach Wilson struggles in NY Jets training camp debut. What went wrong and what it means

Andy Vasquez
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FLORHAM PARK — Zach Wilson's first play of training camp on Friday morning was the perfect encapsulation of why the New York Jets and their fans have a strong belief that better days are not far away.

Wilson, making his camp debut after missing the first two practices over a contract dispute, uncorked a deep ball over the middle of the field. Fellow rookie Elijah Moore tracked the ball perfectly, and made a spectacular catch, losing his helmet as he fell to the ground for a more than 40-yard gain.

But if the start of practice was perfect, the rest of the day was a reminder: there is a lot of work to be done before Wilson can lead the Jets to that brighter future.

Wilson struggled on Friday after the opening deep ball, making several off-target throws and mixing in some poor decisions in his worst practice session since the Jets drafted him No. 2 overall in April.

But the 21-year-old didn't seem rattled by the experience.

"That's what practice is for," said Wilson. "Every day you're going to have something frustrating. That's why I'm out here, just trying to learn every single day, how I can improve, just knowing my plays better and just the different looks the defense is throwing at us and it's going to be a process."

This day provided plenty of learning opportunities, as Wilson completed five-of-10 passes with an interception in team drills. He also struggled in seven-on-seven red-zone drills, completing one of six attempts.

New York Jets quarterback Zach Wilson participated in today's workout, his first visit to the Jet's training camp this season on July 30, 2021.
 

Wilson said that missing the first few days of camp didn't lead to his struggles — Wilson's reps and the Jets were haggling over the language in his four-year, $35.1 million rookie contract. Nor did the cross-country, red-eye flight he took Wednesday night from California when he knew a deal was close.

He said there was no awkward welcome with teammates when he became the final rookie of the 2021 NFL Draft class to sign on Wednesday.

 

"That's what's so cool: They all had my back," Wilson said. "A lot of guys reached out to me and said, 'I have your back, we support you in everything you're doing and we can't wait to have you back.' So it was really cool to have that support."

More than anything, he believed it was inevitable rust after not being on the practice field for the six-week break between the offseason program and training camp.

 

"I wouldn't say I'm behind, it's just my first live bullets being used and it's just getting back into the mix," Wilson said. "I know the plays, I know my assignments, I've just got to execute. ... I mean, It's the beginning of training camp. That's what practice is for and we're just getting better, I would say that's what the hiccups are from."

The 21-year-old impressed in the spring, looking sharp in nearly every OTA practice and showed clear progress in mandatory minicamp after pushing through some shaky moments. So this was clearly his worst practice since the Jets drafted him No. 2 overall in April.

But coach Robert Saleh reiterated what he said in the spring: mistakes are inevitable when developing young players.

"He is a rookie. And just like every other rookie, there's going to be ebbs and flows," Saleh said. "He starts out with a bang on that post in the middle of the field, but the defense was moving at a very fast rate and the windows were very, very tight. So like I said, I don't think there's anything there other than it's his first day."

Wilson said it wasn't fun missing the first few practices when he was so eager to get to work preparing for the upcoming season.

"I think that's the hardest thing, like, now money's involved. My whole life I just played ball to play ball because I loved the game, so I just wanted to get the business done with so I could just do what I love."

But Wilson also recognized that he's playing for more than just love now, and it was important for him to get the terms he was seeking.

"There's a part of you that you want to just get it done, but you want to get it done the right way," Wilson said. "It's a rookie contract you're going to have to play with for four years, and so you've got to handle the business side of it to where both sides of the party can agree so we just had to make sure we got that done."

 

Yes, he missed two practices because of it, but that will soon be forgotten. It won't have any impact on him succeeding or failing as the Jets' quarterback. But it does give the most scrutinized player on the roster a little less time to settle in before things get tougher

Fans will be in the stands for the first time at Saturday's practice, waiting to see if he can bounce back from an off day. And Monday the team can start practicing in pads, which is sure to make those already-narrow passing lanes even tighter.

But Saleh admitted the obvious: Wilson has the "inside lane" to be the Week 1 starter. That gives him room to grow and make mistakes in the coming weeks. Wilson just needs to make sure he's learning from those mistakes.

"There's so many things that have to happen and his first day is just one day, one day of many," Saleh said. "For him, it's just getting caught up, finding a way to get better every day."

"I know sometimes we can get focused on results, but there's a process and he's got a tremendous process. You can't control certain things that happen day in and day out, but you can control your process and how you approach things. ... He's going to have the right process, he's going to be fine."

Andy Vasquez is the Jets beat writer for NorthJersey.com. For unlimited access to all Jets analysis, news, trades and more, please subscribe today and download our app.

Email: vasqueza@northjersey.com 

Twitter: @andy_vasquez 

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51 minutes ago, Paradis said:

80+% of the time you seem like a normal guy on here.... but then there's these childish episodes... diatribes we'll call them.

It's not a great look. 

Lol I could say the exact same thing about you. I fully admit to childish behavior when irritated. Do you?
 

If not, then you lack self awareness pappito.

As for Mims, theres this thing on this board where if you mention concern about a player that was held in high regards or high hopes, other posters will i guess become upset or irritated and make snarky comments along the lines of, “Do you even watch football? How can you call someone a bust before they even made it to year 2?” Or something similar.

Back on JI, dewayne robertson, our butcher with a bowling ball knife or whatever he was called  was our 1st round pick. Like 5th overall? Anyways during the entire training camp, not ONE single comment was in the news. Like nothing. So by the time the season started I posted that he might be a bust because how can a 5th overall pick get zero news stories from camp? Bad sign no?!

Well next came the wave of know it alls calling me an idiot. Well, he turned out to be maybe the ultimate bust.

I dont think its unreasonable to say “man player x might bust” when there is evidence upon evidence to support that its not going well.

So JIF gave me crap for stating that the emporer is naked. That was when he was buried on the depth charts. Second team. Less than 48 hrs, and hes moved to 3rd team. 
 

Now THATS not a good look....

This isn't SAR1 schtick about Gase, worst coach ever, being great. Nor is it JD, probs our best gm in decades being horrible. I base what I say about Mims on his play, which isnt very good.

And i dont need or want to be right. I hope im wrong in fact. I hope Mims makes me eat crow but based on what Im sering, he stinks

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After wide range of emotions, New York Jets rookie QB Zach Wilson makes training camp debut

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New York Jets prized rookie Zach Wilson made his training-camp debut Friday, saying he's eager to learn his craft and lead the Jets to a Super Bowl one day.

But his return to the team after a brief contract dispute contained a twinge of sadness.

On July 22, Wilson's coach -- passing-game specialist Gregg Knapp -- died from injuries suffered when he was struck by a motorist while biking near his home in California.

"At first, it was shock -- complete shock," Wilson said after his first practice. "I'd just been talking to him the day before, right before the incident happened (on July 17). It was almost like I didn't believe it. I felt like I just could've called him right then on the phone and he would've answered.

"It really hit later on when I was like, 'Jeez, this is rough.' I was just praying for him and his family and everyone involved. You kind of get through this together. It's tough, man. Life is a precious thing."

Knapp, 58, was in charge of coaching the quarterbacks.

 

Wilson experienced a wide range of emotions over the last two weeks. The second overall pick and presumptive starter was the last first-round pick to sign. A dispute over language in the contract caused him to miss the first two days of practice. He was in Southern California, training with his personal coach, former NFL quarterback John Beck.

On Thursday, the two sides finally came to an agreement. Wilson, who landed in New Jersey Thursday morning after a red-eye flight, signed his four-year, $35.15 million contract, which is fully guaranteed. He will receive his full signing bonus ($22.9 million) within 15 days.

You can purchase a lot of things with that kind of wealth, but what he wants is priceless.

"You can't buy a Super Bowl," he said. "So I guess I have to work for that. We'll go get one of those."

Barring injury, Wilson will be the Jets' opening-day starter. Coach Robert Saleh wouldn't confirm the obvious, saying only, "Call it the inside lane. It's his to lose."

The only other quarterbacks on the roster are Mike White and James Morgan, former late-round draft picks of the Dallas Cowboys and Jets, respectively. The Jets decided against bringing in veteran competition for Wilson.

 

Not surprisingly, Wilson took all the first-team reps on Friday. His first pass was a long completion to rookie wide receiver Elijah Moore, but he struggled the rest of the way. There was an interception, plus a handful of errant throws.

"I wouldn't say I'm behind," he said, explaining the rust. "It's just my first live bullets again."

Saleh took the glass-half-full approach, complimenting the defense for creating tight windows for Wilson. "Just like any rookie," he said, "there's going to be ebbs and flows."

While sweating out the contract stalemate in California, Wilson tried to stay current by downloading new plays and watching practice video on his tablet. But as he said, "You can do only so much on an iPad, right? It's not simulating a real game."

Wilson has 17 practices and three preseason games to get ready for the Sept. 12 opener against the Carolina Panthers. If there are bumps along the way, the Jets are confident he can handle it. Saleh said he admires Wilson's ability to "deal with adversity and shut people up."

 
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Couldn't, tweets have a limited # of characters, DWC couldn't fit his opening paragraph in one

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First. I think going up against Lawson is going to be really good for Becton's development.

Second. I don't know how people are finding room to bitch and moan ....

Didn't half of the board think Zach wouldn't be here and Becton's glassy disposition was going to keep on the training bike. Practice isn't gonna be perfect. It's Gonna be bumpy.... The year is gonna be bumpy. Enjoy the positives roll with the negatives.

The hyperbole and unrealistic expectations in both directions flowing around here are going to send me back to my absurdist trolly ways ahead of schedule.

 

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58 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

This guy gets paid to write things?

No, he gets paid to get attention. Since there seems to be more discussion of him than Zach Wilson... he seems pretty good at it. 

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16 minutes ago, Lurker89 said:

First. I think going up against Lawson is going to be really good for Becton's development.

Second. I don't know how people are finding room to bitch and moan ....

Didn't half of the board think Zach wouldn't be here and Becton's glassy disposition was going to keep on the training bike. Practice isn't gonna be perfect. It's Gonna be bumpy.... The year is gonna be bumpy. Enjoy the positives roll with the negatives.

The hyperbole and unrealistic expectations in both directions flowing around here are going to send me back to my absurdist trolly ways ahead of schedule.

 

Are you new here?

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15 minutes ago, HighPitch said:

Lol I could say the exact same thing about you. I fully admit to childish behavior when irritated. Do you?
 

If not, then you lack self awareness pappito.

As for Mims, theres this thing on this board where if you mention concern about a player that was held in high regards or high hopes, other posters will i guess become upset or irritated and make snarky comments along the lines of, “Do you even watch football? How can you call someone a bust before they even made it to year 2?” Or something similar.

Back on JI, dewayne robertson, our butcher with a bowling ball knife or whatever he was called  was our 1st round pick. Like 5th overall? Anyways during the entire training camp, not ONE single comment was in the news. Like nothing. So by the time the season started I posted that he might be a bust because how can a 5th overall pick get zero news stories from camp? Bad sign no?!

Well next came the wave of know it alls calling me an idiot. Well, he turned out to be maybe the ultimate bust.

I dont think its unreasonable to say “man player x might bust” when there is evidence upon evidence to support that its not going well.

So JIF gave me crap for stating that the emporer is naked. That was when he was buried on the depth charts. Second team. Less than 48 hrs, and hes moved to 3rd team. 
 

Now THATS not a good look....

This isn't SAR1 schtick about Gase, worst coach ever, being great. Nor is it JD, probs our best gm in decades being horrible. I base what I say about Mims on his play, which isnt very good.

And i dont need or want to be right. I hope im wrong in fact. I hope Mims makes me eat crow but based on what Im sering, he stinks

No shortage of awareness - I'm awful for going down the path of adversarial debate. Lot of life-frustration cathartically channeled in those back and forths (and often feel pretty ashamed after).... but i never quote posters with things like "Don't ask Jim Bob - cause blah blah...." or   "careful, dick dick McLean might read this..."  ...that's a particularly juvenile brand.

Most Jets fans are disappointed in the way things have gone for Mims. Some are even pessimistic. The pushback on material like yours is - it's wildly exaggerated, based on very....very small body of work, and a season (2020) that was fraught with dysfunction. In short, you over-extended your assessment. 

Remember, Quinnen Williams was a POS too for much of his first calendar year with NYJ

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