Popular Post KRL Posted August 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2021 It was good to have pre-season football back after a year absence. Most will dismiss it, but there's nothing like live reps to see how your roster is developing. Let's take a look: Special Teams - This is my first time seeing Chris Naggar and I wasn't impressed. His leg was short on kickoffs and his FG attempt from 53 yards looked like a wounded duck. - Props to Denzel Mims for being on the coverage units. With him having a slow start to camp its crucial to make yourself valuable to the coaching staff by showing you can play specials. - Impressive "downing" of a punt by Vyncint Smith at the one yard line, as he raced into the end zone and knocked it back into the field of play. Defense - With so much youth in the secondary, it was good to see solid "back 7" coordination in pass coverage. Multiple PBU's from the likes of Jamien Sherwood, Brandin Echols and Javelin Guidry. - I don't care if it was "pre-season" how nice was it to see a DLine bring pressure and generate 5 sacks and 10 QB hits. And with the game "on the line" how shocking was it to see the defense actually end the game with a sack and a safety. Instead of allowing the offense to drive the field for a game winning score. - Its early and after a two year layoff I still have "LeVeon Bell concerns", but CJ Mosley was impressive in his return to the field. A noticeable difference in his speed/range allowed him to cover the middle of the field on the first play of the game and to knock down a seam pass. A 2018 Mosley with more speed would be a huge addition to this defense, we'll see. - Bryce Huff with a huge game as he got 2 sacks and multiple pressures. With the switch to a 4-3 and a return to his natural DE position Huff looked like an entirely different player. - Nice debut by Jonathan Marshall as he brought pressure up the middle, generated 1.5 sacks and ended the game with a safety. - Bad missed tackle by Zane Lewis on the 50+ yard NYG run. He came free off the left side, stumbled and let the RB out of the gate. Offense - Nice to finally see an effective run scheme and multiple "gash runs", particularly from the #1 OLine. In addition all the OLines did a good job securing the pocket for all the QB's. - They came up a little bit short (as they had to punt) but a nice end of game "4 minute" drive by the offense. They ran the ball effectively, drained the clock and almost kept NYG from getting the ball back. - Good to see Denzel Mims show up on offense (3 recs / 51 yards) after a very slow start to camp. Hopefully his epic "big boy" run where he dragged 4-5 defenders to pick up a first down will increase his confidence. - Nice game by Vyncint Smith (3 recs / 39 yards) as he ran with the #1's. - Bad showings by Kenny Yeboah and Austin Walter. Yeboah didn't secure the ball on his catch and gave up a fumble which set NYG up for their only score. And Walter had a night to forget where on one rep he got run over by a LB and allowed the QB to get hit. And on another rep he fell down on a running play, got back up took the handoff and then fumbled all on the same play. You can't make the team with that many mistakes. QB - I'm not going to gush over Zach Wilson and say he's "going to Canton" he was solid and efficient (6/9 63 yards). The best thing about his play was he didn't give off any "rookie vibes". If you didn't know who Wilson was and I said he was a third year QB just getting a couple of reps in preparation for the season you wouldn't have been shocked. There were no fumbled snaps, no missed assignments and no plays where he looked like a chicken with no head. - Nice performance by Mike White (13/19 127 yards), he looks like he could be a competent backup and James Morgan wasn't bad. After seeing the likes of Christian Hackenberg "wet the bed" in pre-season, credit the offensive staff for having the backups ready to play. With camp set to continue and the joint practices in GB this week, I can't wait to see Quinnen Williams, Alijah Vera-Tucker and Elijah Moore added back to both sides of the ball. 42 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1958 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Thanks KRL - excellent as always. Headed to GB on Saturday. No Rogers but it still will be fun. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 92ShaunEllis92 Posted August 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2021 The competence of the depth players, in addition to the energy & most being rookies, is a testament that we may have something here with the CS. They were prepared, didn’t look clueless, and didn’t make drive-killing self-inflicted penalties. 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Nice write up. Nas also made a big play, forcing a fumble inside the 10 to halt the Giants drive. He could play a pivot role in this defense. It was great to see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HessStation Posted August 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2021 Ball accurately flys off Wilson’s hand. ?? 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Are there any good kickers out there? This is utterly redundant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seibelt Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Thanks KRL, I always wait to see if your write up matches what I saw. I am starting to get better. It’s great to watch live action again. I rarely watch an entire preseason game but there was so much look for. The Jets FINALLY looked like a football team ready to compete instead of some backyard pick up team. Already looking forward to next week! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, HessStation said: Ball accurately flys off Wilson’s hand. ?? Over the years I’ve been conditioned to wince when the ball leaves a jet qb’s hand. But wilson put a few passes right where it should be. Accuracy in the short and medium passes has been so lacking here. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Larz Posted August 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2021 I was particularly happy with the ending of the game. This staff is a big improvement. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 After skimming the film of the game, I noticed Morgan Moses being solid at RT. He didnt get beat, and if he got out of position, he recovers fast. Also, Wesco is a damn good blocker himself. Hopefully he continues to bloom here and makes life for ZW easier. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: Over the years I’ve been conditioned to wince when the ball leaves a jet qb’s hand. But wilson put a few passes right where it should be. Accuracy in the short and medium passes has been so lacking here. From a pure technical or mechanical perspective, Wilson is on a different level than the other rookie first rounders. I’m NOT equating this to greatness or who’s better. But he reminds me of, if Jimmy Garoppolo had a stronger arm. everything is quick compact and accurate 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, HessStation said: From a pure technical or mechanical perspective, Wilson is on a different level than the other rookie first rounders. I’m NOT equating this to greatness or who’s better. But he reminds me of, if Jimmy Garoppolo had a stronger arm. He’s reminded me of a bit bigger/stronger mayfield. Sets up quickly, throws nice spirals and can get it out quickly. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, BUM-KNEE said: After skimming the film of the game, I noticed Morgan Moses being solid at RT. He didnt get beat, and if he got out of position, he recovers fast. Also, Wesco is a damn good blocker himself. Hopefully he continues to bloom here and makes life for ZW easier. Wesco may make the team as a blocker/st guy but i wouldn’t want to put the ball in his hands with the game on the line. The jets have so many other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Blast Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, Larz said: I was particularly happy with the ending of the game. This staff is a big improvement. For sure. I thought the offensive play calling was pretty good, especially considering it was LaFleur's first time out. It seems to me the staff is well organized and they have a plan. They have been very deliberate in how they are grooming Wilson to ready by opening day. I am also impressed with how well they have been bringing our young secondary along. Things are looking up! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Funny, I remember Hack’s first preseason action, this fan base collectively wet themselves. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: Wesco may make the team as a blocker/st guy but i wouldn’t want to put the ball in his hands with the game on the line. The jets have so many other options. I agree we dont need him to touch the ball alot, there are more skilled guys out there to utilize. I do think he absolutely makes the team doing what hes doing, this offense is in need of his services. The CS has stated the desire for a FB and Wesco looks to be the part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheastadiumjetfan Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Thanks KRL! I was waiting for your analysis which is always on point. The Jets look much more prepared with this CS -obviously and thankfully the starters were ready to ball this season -but especially evident were the players on the back end of the roster -the guys fighting for the last spots on the team. Refreshing PS game Keep the reports coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: He’s reminded me of a bit bigger/stronger mayfield. Sets up quickly, throws nice spirals and can get it out quickly. Mayfield has some of that too…. All 3 quick compact release. Just thoughts here but Mayfield has the plus moxy, Garoppolo the plus accuracy and Wilson the plus arm strength. We shall see. Guys like Mahomes and Rogers have all of the above attributes plus the mindsets. At least we have something to watch this year….and side note as much I loved TL he and Lance (for example) seem to take a lot longer to get the ball out (per arm motion) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 The kicker situation on this team is an endless source of frustration 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, BUM-KNEE said: I agree we dont need him to touch the ball alot, there are more skilled guys out there to utilize. I do think he absolutely makes the team doing what hes doing, this offense is in need of his services. The CS has stated the desire for a FB and Wesco looks to be the part. Wesco is a poor version of what they want, so i figure while he may make the roster and play, his days are numbered until they find someone who is better at what they want him for. Overall i see the TEs having a modest impact assuming moore is healthy and they look to incorporate mims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 I’m rooting for Huff. I want this guy to prove the world wrong! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 It may change as the kids develop, especially Q, but Mosely as of now is the best player on the team. Take a player poll, I bet it's 90-0. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 32EBoozer Posted August 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, KRL said: don't care if it was "pre-season" how nice was it to see a DLine bring pressure and generate 5 sacks and 10 QB hits What did you see with Rashed. He didn’t jump out to me as this article conveys. https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-jets/pass-rusher-jets-on-notice/ Hamilcar Rashed Jr is the player that definitely put the Jets coaching staff on notice. The talented pass rusher led the team in tackles (four), registered 1.5 sacks, two quarterback hits, and a tackle for loss. It’s funny the Jets couldn’t buy a pass rusher over the last 15 years and now suddenly the drawers are overflowing with options. When you evaluate his game the things that stand out are: Hustle plays: a relentless motor that doesn’t have an off switch. Special teams abilities: the more feathers that you can have in your cap, the greater your chances are of making a final 53 man NFL roster. Versatility: can line up all over the place but is likely best suited as a situational pass rusher in this 4-3 scheme. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KRL Posted August 15, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2021 I should've mentioned Trevon Wesco, he didn't do anything "stat sexy" but his blocking as a FB/HB was outstanding. Props to @BUM-KNEE for bringing him up 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted August 15, 2021 Author Share Posted August 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: What did you see with Rashed. He didn’t jump out to me as this article conveys. https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-jets/pass-rusher-jets-on-notice/ Hamilcar Rashed Jr is the player that definitely put the Jets coaching staff on notice. The talented pass rusher led the team in tackles (four), registered 1.5 sacks, two quarterback hits, and a tackle for loss. It’s funny the Jets couldn’t buy a pass rusher over the last 15 years and now suddenly the drawers are overflowing with options. When you evaluate his game the things that stand out are: Hustle plays: a relentless motor that doesn’t have an off switch. Special teams abilities: the more feathers that you can have in your cap, the greater your chances are of making a final 53 man NFL roster. Versatility: can line up all over the place but is likely best suited as a situational pass rusher in this 4-3 scheme. He had a "layup" unblocked sack, it counts but he was ushered to the QB with no resistance. Hard to get excited about that 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Bronx said: Are there any good kickers out there? This is utterly redundant! Aldrick Rosas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, KRL said: He had a "layup" unblocked sack, it counts but he was ushered to the QB with no resistance. Hard to get excited about that Didn't bank's call it a Heads Up sack, as in somebody forgot to block him?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 My biggest takeaway was it was a terrible pre-season game. There was one big play in the passing game and it was made by the Giants. Clayton Thorton to David Sills for 37 yards. Game lacked juice and there was almost no attempt by the Jets to make chunk plays in the passing game. We drafted Zach for his ability to make chunk plays off platform to go along with our zone blocking run game. I felt he was over managed in a game that meant nothing. He looked okay but in reality he was managed and his roll out and attempt under pressure was pretty ugly. Mims showed some heart and that was a real positive. Seems like the game means something to him and he played with intensity. Love to see more of that. Seemed like the Giants were only looking at the roster and the Jets were trying to manage the game. That's okay but frankly these pre-season games are meaningless and pretty awful to watch. 1 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Thanks KRL always appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 It's almost as if having a talented well rounded coaching staff, and a GM who doesn't draft the best d player available every year; makes a big difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 I can't wait to see AVT and Moore in the lineup. I think we were missing AVT a lot in the run game. I was a little disappointed with Kroft on a few plays-- he missed some blocks. Also Vyncint Smith needs to improve his run blocking. There were a few times his guy made the tackle preventing big gains. Ty Johnson looks good. Happy to see Mims working to prove everyone wrong. I think the illness was holding him back more than we thought. The team already seems more professional and better coached. When they say the team reflects the personality of the coach, well this is a good reflection. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 47 minutes ago, JiFapono said: Funny, I remember Hack’s first preseason action, this fan base collectively wet themselves. I’m still dizzy from dreaming about the 5 championships Hack was going to win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Remember fam… AVT and Moore didn’t even play. I think we got a lot to be excited about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Long Island Leprechaun Posted August 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2021 Were the Jets fiery? That's what I want to know. The Giants were a regular tinderbox. All they needed was a match. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FTL Jet Fan Posted August 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Biggs said: My biggest takeaway was it was a terrible pre-season game. There was one big play in the passing game and it was made by the Giants. Clayton Thorton to David Sills for 37 yards. Game lacked juice and there was almost no attempt by the Jets to make chunk plays in the passing game. We drafted Zach for his ability to make chunk plays off platform to go along with our zone blocking run game. I felt he was over managed in a game that meant nothing. He looked okay but in reality he was managed and his roll out and attempt under pressure was pretty ugly. Mims showed some heart and that was a real positive. Seems like the game means something to him and he played with intensity. Love to see more of that. Seemed like the Giants were only looking at the roster and the Jets were trying to manage the game. That's okay but frankly these pre-season games are meaningless and pretty awful to watch. It’s not about Wilson making chunk plays, it was his first preseason game. The staff is getting the kid ready for the NFL, he is going to be brought along slowly until he gets more comfortable with the speed of the game. He didn’t look overwhelmed and as @KRL said he didn’t look like your typical rookie on his first showing. Nice poise and ball placement, yes there were a few hiccups but nothing overly alarming. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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