DannyDevito3 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I thought he would be a great NFL QB. Shows how clueless I am. 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post docdhc Posted August 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2021 Just now, DannyDevito3 said: I thought he would be a great NFL QB. Shows how clueless I am. I'm afraid to ask, what do you think of Zack? 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDevito3 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 Just now, docdhc said: I'm afraid to ask, what do you think of Zack? I think he throws a nice ball, but preferred Lance/Fields. After watching Allen and Herbert I want big/athletic dudes at the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GandWFan Posted August 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, DannyDevito3 said: I think he throws a nice ball, but preferred Lance/Fields. After watching Allen and Herbert I want big/athletic dudes at the position. Ok, good. 2 5 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thshadow Posted August 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, DannyDevito3 said: I thought he would be a great NFL QB. Shows how clueless I am. Wait, you're admitting you were wrong? I don't think you know how message boards work. 4 2 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seibelt Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 hours ago, DannyDevito3 said: I thought he would be a great NFL QB. Shows how clueless I am. To show you how clueless I am, I have no idea if Josh Rosen is better than, worse than, or equal to Sam Darnold. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I think Darnold is heading in the wrong direction. It’s 50/50 he works out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 4 hours ago, DannyDevito3 said: I think he throws a nice ball, but preferred Lance/Fields. After watching Allen and Herbert I want big/athletic dudes at the position. Thanks goodness, the opposite of what most thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Seibelt said: To show you how clueless I am, I have no idea if Josh Rosen is better than, worse than, or equal to Sam Darnold. Hint one is on his second starting gig The other is filing for unemployment after his fourth team dumped him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 What happened to Josh Rosen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungaman Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Rosen might not have been ultimately good enough to be more than a backup, but I didn't think he would be out of work. Perhaps he doesn't have what it takes, but all in all, his travels through the NFL were pretty raw deals or bad luck on badly run clubs. Everything that could go wrong did. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 27 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: What happened to Josh Rosen. His character and ego is what happened to him. He's the definition of a player who didn't love Football. It's sad. I once believed in him. I thought he was the best pure pocket passing QB coming out of the draft. And then all of the Pre-Draft interviews of him leaked and I wanted to ignore them. He was too confident. Too cocky. Too spoiled and never needed football to begin with (his words). • Great talent. Horrible fire. Bad character. Not a leader. Now out of the NFL. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rex-n-effect Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: That is sexy rexy level arrogance 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: Hint one is on his second starting gig The other is filing for unemployment after his fourth team dumped him thats because one team had the guts to get rid of him after one year. it was a ballsy move but it worked out. who knows, maybe it would have been Darnold filing for unemployment and Rosen starting his 2nd gig if they drafted them. you know, come to think about it, Sam being on a bad Jets team might have extended his career. at least got him that 5th year extension. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 41 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said: His character and ego is what happened to him. He's the definition of a player who didn't love Football. It's sad. I once believed in him. I thought he was the best pure pocket passing QB coming out of the draft. And then all of the Pre-Draft interviews of him leaked and I wanted to ignore them. He was too confident. Too cocky. Too spoiled and never needed football to begin with (his words). • Great talent. Horrible fire. Bad character. Not a leader. Now out of the NFL. kinda reminds me of Trevor. didnt he say he doesnt need football? and didnt he get married on a day he was suppose to be in camp or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Always thought he was “icy”. STB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 31 minutes ago, doitny said: kinda reminds me of Trevor. didnt he say he doesnt need football? and didnt he get married on a day he was suppose to be in camp or something? I'm not sure about the date of him getting married but I do remember him saying how A.) He doesn't need Football for a future and B.) He doesn't watch football for fun (but then again neither did #28 Curtis Martin). Do I believe Trevor Lawrence will bust because of his laid back personality? Not a chance. I think he's a future All-Pro Quarterback (although right now stick behind an awful Jacksonville O-Line and I think he'll really struggle as a Rookie because of it and I mean really struggle too)9. Trevor Lawrence is laid back. Josh Rosen was a prick. Big difference imo. But would I trade Zach Wilson for Trevor Lawrence straight up? Not anymore. Not in a million years. Wilson has the fire that you just want in your Quarterback and has completely won me over. Trevor Lawrence (Andrew Luck). Zach Wilson (Aaron Rodgers). Justin Fields (Russell Wilson). Mac Jones (Philip Rivers). That's who all of these Rookie QBs remind me of in terms of playing style and potential and I believe this draft class will become an All-Time great QB draft class. The only one who I don't believe in is Trey Lance. Just too much inexperience for me. Only 12 career High School TDs and only 10 career High school games played? Only 19 NCAA games played (with only 2 games played during his Freshman season and only 1 game played during his final years last season of 2020)? He has no chance to ever become successful as an NFL QB and I believe none whatsoever. What was San Francisco thinking when trading the farm for #3 overall? And what were they thinking passing on JUSTIN FIELDS for Trey Lance? It's mind boggling to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 He threw a nearly perfect football and apparently understood the games Xs and Os really well (at least in the pre draft process) but the knock on him was that he had no fire, a bad attitude and lacked motivation. The fact that he was already in trouble in preseason in his first year points to exactly that, a work ethic and attitude problem. It just doesn't fly in the NFL. If you don't love football, you dont get very far. From the little I saw of him, it looked like he was constantly overwhelmed and couldnt process things quickly enough, which would lead to him holding the ball too long and taking sacks b/c he wasnt mobile. That's usually lack of mental repetitions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Hey hockey fans, remember Alexander Daigle? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 It seems that Rosen essentially forced his own release by complaining that he wasn't getting enough reps in practice. Guy is still arrogant and just doesn't get it. When you are on your 4th team as the 4th QB behind a veteran starter and a high rookie 1st round pick, you take what reps you are given and do your best with them. You are just barely clinging on in the NFL as it is. He'll probably get another shot though, because he's still young and he "looks" like a QB. I hope the Jets steer well clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYDreamer Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 He essentially could have won a Super Bowl ring while with Tampa Bay but chose to agree to be traded to the 49er's as he had to agree to be traded. I really wonder how he was sitting behind Brady last year. Clearly didn't learn to be humbled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 If the choice is between the Jets having taken Rosen vs Darnold, the really sad truth remains that Rosen would have been the better choice, even with hindsight to guide us. And that’s a horrid reflection on Darnold. Rosen is impossible to root for based on personality but Darnold is also far too nice. He’s also about to contribute to getting his 3rd HC fired. Can’t say that about Rosen. Rosen only contributed to one (Wilks) before AZ limited the damage and cut bait. Sigh. To think we could have had Mahomes. Instead we get Hackenberg and what essentially came down to a Darnold vs Rosen hypothetical (Macc would have taken Rosen had Darnold gone to the Giants). Fire Macc into the sun repeatedly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManCave Analyst Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 His character and ego is what happened to him. He's the definition of a player who didn't love Football. It's sad. I once believed in him. I thought he was the best pure pocket passing QB coming out of the draft. And then all of the Pre-Draft interviews of him leaked and I wanted to ignore them. He was too confident. Too cocky. Too spoiled and never needed football to begin with (his words). • Great talent. Horrible fire. Bad character. Not a leader. Now out of the NFL. Agreed. And now we don’t have to listen to him any more.Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 7 hours ago, doitny said: thats because one team had the guts to get rid of him after one year. it was a ballsy move but it worked out. who knows, maybe it would have been Darnold filing for unemployment and Rosen starting his 2nd gig if they drafted them. you know, come to think about it, Sam being on a bad Jets team might have extended his career. at least got him that 5th year extension. I think its safe to say that Darnold, as poorly as he's played has put more good film together than Rosen with the bonus of not being a colossal dick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 6 hours ago, Jet9 said: Hey hockey fans, remember Alexander Daigle? Not many do. And thats the point when you were a big time prospect drafted first! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDevito3 Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 6 hours ago, Hael said: He threw a nearly perfect football and apparently understood the games Xs and Os really well (at least in the pre draft process) but the knock on him was that he had no fire, a bad attitude and lacked motivation. The fact that he was already in trouble in preseason in his first year points to exactly that, a work ethic and attitude problem. It just doesn't fly in the NFL. If you don't love football, you dont get very far. From the little I saw of him, it looked like he was constantly overwhelmed and couldnt process things quickly enough, which would lead to him holding the ball too long and taking sacks b/c he wasnt mobile. That's usually lack of mental repetitions. He was in an absolutely terrible situation his rookie year. The Cardinals let him get absolutely mauled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 34 minutes ago, ManCave Analyst said: Agreed. And now we don’t have to listen to him any more. Until he signs with his next team in a few hours, maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, DannyDevito3 said: He was in an absolutely terrible situation his rookie year. The Cardinals let him get absolutely mauled. Explain Kyler Murray’s rookie year then a few months after Rosen’s performance. And please spare us from listing rookie HC Kliff Kingsbury as the top reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 7 hours ago, doitny said: kinda reminds me of Trevor. didnt he say he doesnt need football? and didnt he get married on a day he was suppose to be in camp or something? His dad said he is not a win a super bowl at all costs type of guy. Alarming words about a FQB if you ask me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 9 hours ago, doitny said: thats because one team had the guts to get rid of him after one year. it was a ballsy move but it worked out. who knows, maybe it would have been Darnold filing for unemployment and Rosen starting his 2nd gig if they drafted them. you know, come to think about it, Sam being on a bad Jets team might have extended his career. at least got him that 5th year extension. Sam had some good games and flashes of brilliance to go along with his bad ones. Rosen just had stinkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 The Rosen narrative about personality is overblown. The Rosen issue is more about evaluator error. I really liked Rosen but even then I felt like I was just making up facts to reach a conclusion. The guy wasn’t especially accurate. He also had a mediocre arm. He also was bad under pressure. All of this was ignored because he was big time recruit with a good freshman year under his belt. So yes there’s something to personality but the primary differences between him (who I liked) and Josh Allen (who I hated) is that Josh Allen is immune to pressure on top of being bigger, faster, stronger and having an elite level nfl arm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Explain Kyler Murray’s rookie year then a few months after Rosen’s performance. And please spare us from listing rookie HC Kliff Kingsbury as the top reason. Rosen sucks, but a bad offensive line for Murray isn't as big of a deal since he has elite mobility. Rosen with a bad oline is a sitting duck. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, kdels62 said: The Rosen narrative about personality is overblown. The Rosen issue is more about evaluator error. I really liked Rosen but even then I felt like I was just making up facts to reach a conclusion. The guy wasn’t especially accurate. He also had a mediocre arm. He also was bad under pressure. All of this was ignored because he was big time recruit with a good freshman year under his belt. So yes there’s something to personality but the primary differences between him (who I liked) and Josh Allen (who I hated) is that Josh Allen is immune to pressure on top of being bigger, faster, stronger and having an elite level nfl arm. Many of us didn't want Allen because his scouting report resembled Hackenburg in that he was a big strong kid, who looked like an elite QB talent and we were all asked to ignore his crappy college stats/ bad comp pct. and just trust the scouts who say he will figure it out in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Getting cut repeatedly rather than buried on the depth chart as a project speaks to attitude and what his teammates think of him. get him out of the building lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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