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29 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

I could see Shepherd, Crowder even Berrios being viable trade bait. Not sure who would be a viable target though.

Agree, all have value but nothing in the store I can afford.

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Also Jennifer is looking for her void to be filled if anyone was interested.

2nd round pick for Jamal Adams.

So difficult in my own head to buy into either side of this. On one hand we are re building and why give up draft capital in a season where there are really no playoff expectations. On the o

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47 minutes ago, SR24 said:

They should also look into a trade for Lattimore. They need WRs give them Crowder and a pick. I wouldn’t mind Fowler either he would probably be cheap to get 

Lattimore would be a better pickup than an equivalent pass rusher IMO.

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2 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said:

Lattimore would be a better pickup than an equivalent pass rusher IMO.

A legitimate pass rusher who puts consistent pressure on the QB improves any defense especially the secondary. 

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2 hours ago, DetroitRed said:

Pass rushers don’t become available.   Not if they are worth their salt. Maybe you can get a low rated second tier guy, but the cost may not be worth it

Really good edge rushers are easier to come by than you think, they are  just third down specialists. What's hard tofind are good edge rushers that can play 3 downs. 

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2 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

No wasted draft capital unless it's for an expiring contract and a pick swap, or just a late round pick. 

I could live with dropping a 3rd or lower on a player that's under 30, but nothing higher.  

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46 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

A legitimate pass rusher who puts consistent pressure on the QB improves any defense especially the secondary. 

I agree with you but at this point in the season I don’t know if Joe D will be able to aquire a legitimate pass rusher. Lattimore is a good and realistic plan B 

 

Edit- After realizing Lattimore was arrested in the off-season never mind. Don’t see the front office doing that 

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I'd love Fowler because me and him share a great niece together. My first niece my sister's first daughter had a daughter with his little brother 6 years ago and been together 10+ years now when Fowler was in college he always promised me and my older brother at family reunions great season tickets if my Jets ever got him and for free tickets me and my older brother will so take a 2 hour flight from FL to NY to catch live games I just texted him now asking him to FORCE a trade to NYJ 😅 he can really get after the QB too.

Her dad Fowlers younger brother was more talented and would've made the NFL. RB. ACL injury in college practice UF as a Freshman stole his dreams good kid too😪 

my great niece she's 6 now and runs track. Florida speed.  Blazing speed. Our track little track star. 💜

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Quinnen's and Rankin's returns will make the whole d front look better, edges included. Inclined to sit tight until we see the first quarter of season and then, if still in the market, someone under contract for next season--young or old--for a third. Idea of that kind of trade is to take pressure off our edge 2022 first round draft choice, Carl's return would be a bonus.

 

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Potential NY Jets trade targets to help replace Carl Lawson

The New York Jets are reportedly looking to trade for an edge rusher following Carl Lawson's injury, and there are multiple candidates.

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 Michael Nania

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 08/22/2021

 

New York Jets are reportedly exploring a trade for an edge rusher

Following the loss of Carl Lawson to a season-ending Achilles injury, the New York Jets appear to be on the prowl for an edge rusher to replace him.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported that the Jets are looking to acquire a pass rusher to fill the void left by Lawson and that a trade is being considered.

 

 

Here are some players the Jets could go after through the trade market and free agency.

 

Dante Fowler, 27, played defensive end for the Falcons’ 4-3 defense last season, which was captained by now-Jets defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich for the final 11 games following the firing of head coach Dan Quinn. Fowler also played under a linebackers coach named Robert Saleh for two years in Jacksonville (2015-16).

Fowler signed a three-year, $45 million deal with the Falcons in 2020 after a breakout season with the Rams in 2019.

His first season in Atlanta was a failure. Over 14 games, he posted only 30 pressures, ranking 56th among edge rushers. With those 30 pressures coming over 384 pass-rush snaps, Fowler posted a pressure rate of 7.8%, which ranked at the 27th percentile among qualified edge rushers. He also only had three sacks.

Fowler’s struggles led to a contract restructure. His 2021 base salary was reduced from $14 million to $6 million with up to $4 million in incentives added for various sack-total benchmarks. The third year of his contract was voided, making him an impending free agent, although he is still owed $4.7 million in 2022.

Expiring contracts like Fowler could be appealing to the Jets in their current trade search. Unless they are looking to give up premium capital for a top-tier option that could be around for years to come, they are likely looking to spend limited capital for a short-term solution to plug the hole left by Lawson for just one year. That would make players like Fowler more attractive considering the lack of long-term financial commitment.

The third overall pick in the 2015 NFL draft, Fowler has had a wildly inconsistent career but has shown that he does have elite upside. In 2019, Fowler had 11.5 sacks, six passes defended, and two forced fumbles while ranking 11th among edge rushers with 67 pressures.

It is key that the Jets’ new edge rusher can play defensive end, lining up with his hands in the dirt rather than standing up. That’s how the edge rushers are deployed in Saleh’s 4-3 defense.

Fowler played with his hands in the dirt on 63% of his defensive snaps in 2020. Standing up as an outside linebacker might be his best fit, though, as when he had his 2019 career-year with the Rams, he played defensive end just 29% of the time.

Derek Barnett

The Eagles drafted Derek Barnett with the 14th overall pick in the 2017 draft while Joe Douglas was their vice president of player personnel. Philadelphia picked up Barnett’s fifth-year option for the 2021 season and he will become a free agent after the year.

Barnett, 25, has been a solid player throughout his Eagles career. He owns a career pressure rate of 10.5% (slightly above the 2020 EDGE average of 9.7%) and a career run defense grade of 69.3 (above the 2020 EDGE average of 61.4).

Barnett can line up either standing up or with his hands in the dirt but leans toward the defensive end position in Philadelphia’s 4-3 defense. He played defensive end on 65% of his snaps last season.

 

Marcus Davenport

Marcus Davenport, who turns 25 in September, is a promising young defensive end for the Saints. He is entering his fourth season and had his fifth-year option for the 2022 season picked up.

What makes Davenport a possible trade candidate is the fact that New Orleans just drafted defensive end Payton Turner out of Houston with the 28th overall pick in the first round of this year’s draft.

Davenport is a versatile player who had a 49%/51% split between snaps with his hands in the dirt and snaps standing up last season. He has posted borderline star-caliber levels of efficiency throughout his career, owning a 12.6% pressure rate and a 75.7 run defense grade.

The question marks for Davenport are injuries and his ability to handle a starter’s workload. He has missed 11 games in three seasons and has averaged only 35.1 snaps per game over 41 career regular season and playoff appearances. Davenport was a starter in only 15 of his 41 games.

Chandler Jones

Chandler Jones is in the final year of his five-year, $82.5 million contract that he signed with the Cardinals going into the 2017 season. He requested a trade from the Cardinals in late July.

Jones is one of the most accomplished pass rushers of the past decade, but there are strong signs that he may be on the downturn.

 

Now 31 years old, Jones missed the final 11 games of the 2020 season with a bicep injury that required surgery.

Jones was having the worst season of his career by a massive margin prior to the injury. Through five games, he had a 6.0% pressure rate with only 10 pressures on 166 pass-rush snaps. That rate landed him at the 10th percentile among qualified edge rushers by the end of the year.

In addition, Jones ranked at the position’s 42nd percentile in pass-rush win rate (11.9%) and 43rd percentile in PFF’s pass-rush grade (63.1).

Even Jones’ box score numbers were bad. He had one sack and 11 tackles in five games, both career-lows on a per-game basis. Jones was simply a below-average player across the board.

Just one year prior, Jones was named a first-team All-Pro with a career-high 19 sacks. Jones also ranked eighth at his position with 75 pressures.

Whether or not Jones fits the Jets’ scheme is a legitimate question. Throughout his Cardinals career, Jones has primarily been a 3-4 outside linebacker who lines up in a two-point stance (standing up). Jones put his hands in the dirt on only 10% of his snaps last season.

However, Jones does have experience playing defensive end from his time in New England from 2012-15, so he is capable.

Jones could definitely come back strong in 2021 and prove his small-sample 2020 woes were a fluke. He would be an exciting swing for the fences for the Jets, but they should be careful not to overpay for him. There are legitimate red flags regarding his future outlook.

NY Jets free-agent targets to replace Carl Lawson

Olivier Vernon

Olivier Vernon’s availability is unclear after he suffered an Achilles injury of his own during the Browns’ 2020 season finale. He remains a free agent.

Vernon, who turns 31 this October, remained a strong rusher in 2020 as he ranked 17th among edge defenders with 51 pressures. He played 42% of his snaps with his hands in the dirt last season, which is around the norm for his career. Vernon is capable of playing both defensive end and outside linebacker.

Everson Griffen

Everson Griffen will turn 34 years old this December and is not the star he once was, but he was still a good player for the Cowboys and Lions last season. His 15.2% pass-rush win rate ranked at the 73rd percentile among qualified edge rushers.

Griffen is a perfect fit to fill Lawson’s shoes at the right defensive end spot in the Jets’ 4-3 scheme. He played that spot in Mike Zimmer’s 4-3 defense with the Vikings, lining up at right defensive end on 94% of his snaps in 2019.

On Wednesday, Aug. 17, Griffen was reported to have worked out with the Vikings, but there has been no news since then regarding the possibility of a deal being signed.

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4 hours ago, DetroitRed said:

Pass rushers don’t become available.   Not if they are worth their salt. Maybe you can get a low rated second tier guy, but the cost may not be worth it

People always say this, but of the 20 players with more than 8 sacks in 2020, 13 were not on their first team.   11 of the 21 with more than 9 in 2019 either had or have switched teams.  

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If I read this right they're looking to fill the Lawson role. Well they certainly aren't going to do that with with a stop gap option. They're expecting them to have an impact, That would be Chandler Jones. Having draft picks is cool but at some point you have to turn them into players. They have cap, assets, need. If it can be done Douglas should do it. 

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27 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

I don’t care if Chandler Jones is on the wrong side of 30.

He’s still an awesome player and probably has at least 2-3 very productive years left in him.

 

I thought Jones was more of a 3-4 OLB than a down 4-3 DE with his hand in the dirt?

Is he honestly a good fit or is he just surfacing because he's been a very good pass rusher and has asked for a trade?

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Just now, Irish Jet said:

Just have Crowder and Barnett swap sides at this week’s joitnt practice. If both teams like it we’ll make it official.

That kind of stuff never happens but it would actually be the best approach, and it would be pretty funny.

Like a game of shirts vs. skins on the playground as a kid, they walk onto the field and the coaches are like, "Head over there.... and give me that jersey." lol

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With the Eagles coming to town this week, and they seem to be in need of a WR, i wouldn't be at all stunned to see a trade involving Josh Sweat, or Derek Barnett.  Jets WR's Keeland Cole, or Crowder.

Just a thought.

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18 minutes ago, flgreen said:

Potential NY Jets trade targets to help replace Carl Lawson

Dante Fowler, 27, played defensive end for the Falcons’ 4-3 defense last season, which was captained by now-Jets defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich for the final 11 games following the firing of head coach Dan Quinn. Fowler also played under a linebackers coach named Robert Saleh for two years in Jacksonville (2015-16).

Fowler signed a three-year, $45 million deal with the Falcons in 2020 after a breakout season with the Rams in 2019.

 

I've already confirmed with him personally and he's not going anywhere because Atlanta isn't trading him. We can scratch him off the list 😡

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20 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

 

I thought Jones was more of a 3-4 OLB than a down 4-3 DE with his hand in the dirt?

Is he honestly a good fit or is he just surfacing because he's been a very good pass rusher and has asked for a trade?

I’m pretty sure New England switched to the 4-3 as soon as they got rid of Wilfork and Jones had 12.5 sacks during his last season in New England.

A dude with the level of production and pass rushing prowess that he’s exhibited over his career I think would make an impact regardless of scheme.

I’d love to have him

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3 hours ago, Paradis said:

the last week has really sent me down a different path vibe was. It's felt a little off since TC started. Mims thing was weird. Oline issues surfacing, lost our Prized FA, Davis went down, secondary looked surprisingly lost yesterday... Corey Davis and Wilson's chemistry is about the only thing that feels right now

 

There can only be one Davis.......

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I believe a bold move is necessary here. You can't leave these guys hanging. Lawson was supposed to be a huge part of the defense. Maybe going to have to give up a player and a pick?

First off you can't tell the team hey this is just a rebuilding year and a learning period for Zack. These guys have to believe that the coaches believe they can win.

We're going to have to give up capital anyway if we draft a guy next year right? I don't see what the big deal is about giving up one of our higher picks if we can swindle one of the better younger players in the league.

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1 hour ago, Greenbloodblitz said:

I believe a bold move is necessary here. You can't leave these guys hanging. Lawson was supposed to be a huge part of the defense. Maybe going to have to give up a player and a pick?

First off you can't tell the team hey this is just a rebuilding year and a learning period for Zack. These guys have to believe that the coaches believe they can win.

We're going to have to give up capital anyway if we draft a guy next year right? I don't see what the big deal is about giving up one of our higher picks if we can swindle one of the better younger players in the league.

I’d love Chandler Jones, but I’m expecting Derek Barnett, if anything.

Jordan Jenkins with a little more juice in the tank…

Meh

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I wouldn't mind giving up a premium pick (#2 or #3) for a young
DE like Derek Barnett or Marcus Davenport because they could be
here long term.  Will be interesting to see what Douglas does

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2 minutes ago, KRL said:

I wouldn't mind giving up a premium pick (#2 or #3) for a young
DE like Derek Barnett or Marcus Davenport because they could be
here long term.  Will be interesting to see what Douglas does

I’d be pretty pissed if we gave up one of our 2’s for Barnett.

I don’t care if he’s on the downside of his career, I’d sooner give up a 2 for Chandler Jones, who is a proven, elite EDGE over a “solid” younger guy like Barnett and banking on him taking a big leap forward.

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