Jets trade for Shaq Lawson

[BCJet]

Hopefully he is a decent run defender because while everyone is focused on edge pressure, our run defense hasnt looked great and we need players who can do both.

Im as hopeful as any of us that Huff and Hamilcar can surprise as young speed rushers but neither of them is really ready for a 3 down role in this system, so having Lawson be able to rotate in with JFM and Blair at DE on early downs will be very helpful and we can rotate the young speed rushers in on passing downs.

[Embrace the Suck]

11 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said:

 

Love his passion. Should make for fun practices. I like my d players abusive and douchey when they're on the field (provided it's backed up with two sacks during the game).

[Buffalo 24 7]

23 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

If Lawson can get 7-9 sacks that would be huge 

He won't

 

[jetstream23]

11 minutes ago, Mike135 said:

Fans:  "Joe Douglas sucks!  He paid big for an injury prone Lawson to be our DE, and he doesn't even play one game."

JD:  "What are you talking about, Lawson is playing DE right now."

 

I've been excited all Spring to see Lawson rushing the passer!

 

Wait a minute!

 

 

[Jimmy 2 Times]

23 minutes ago, Lith said:

 

Good to know he's signed for next year too!  

Should have a nice rotation when Carl Lawson and our 2021 first round pick edge arrive.   

[flgreen]

For a 6th round pick this time of year this is a great trade.  No, he's not an elite ER, but with the kind of push the Jets should have in the middle bet Lawson has career year.

 

[Embrace the Suck]

30 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Eh.  He stinks but they r desperate after the lawson injury.

"Everybody deserves a fresh start every once in a while." - Bugsy Siegel

[Jimmy 2 Times]

He's going to get singled up a lot with teams forced to block Q and Rankins.  

He just needs to keep the quarterback in the pocket long enough for Q to feast. 

[Buffalo 24 7]

4 minutes ago, BCJet said:

Hopefully he is a decent run defender because while everyone is focused on edge pressure, our run defense hasnt looked great and we need players who can do both.

Im as hopeful as any of us that Huff and Hamilcar can surprise as young speed rushers but neither of them is really ready for a 3 down role in this system, so having Lawson be able to rotate in with JFM and Blair at DE on early downs will be very helpful and we can rotate the young speed rushers in on passing downs.

He is known for being good against the run.

[joewilly12]

Great move nice job JD no matter what's done here the haters gone hate.  

[jetlaw]

A good addition for limited cost. I’d still like to add one more defense end to that rotation either via trade or the waiver wire, but this a good start.


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[Billyg]

32 minutes ago, Lith said:

This is gonna get confusing.

We already had 2 Johnsons (Josh & Ty), 3 Davis's (Jarrad, Corey and Ashtyn), 2 MIchael Carters, 2 Moore's (ELijah and David), 2 Phillips (Kyle and Delshawn) and now two Lawsons.

And 2 Smith's- Vyncint and Jeff

[Larz]

There is more to the position than sacks, but it’s interesting to note that Carl and Shaq have the same amount of career sacks, but Carl got there in 13 fewer games. 
 

Carl’s sacks per game is .39

Shaqs sacks per game is .32

Carl has a better win % but I’m a little surprised the difference wasn’t greater to be honest 

[jetstream23]

26 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

Fk PFF dude.

Look at the REAL numbers.

Shaq Lawson:

141.5 QB Sacks/Hurries/Knockdowns/Hits/Pressures (combined).

 

Vs. 

 

Carl Lawson

187.5 QB Sacks/Hurries/Knockdowns/Hits/Pressures (combined).

PFF's ranking system is comple trash.

JD just got ourselves an exciting pass rushers who's much better against the run than Carl too.

That's the bottom line.  Good statzzz dude!

If Shaq is 75% the player that Carl would have been this is a great move to keep the Jets at least respectable on the outside.

[The Crusher]

8 minutes ago, Buffalo 24 7 said:

He won't

 

I’ll take 6. 

[Rolloffjet]

This move is ok. I just hope jd still trades for barnett. Can’t get enough pass rush

[The Crusher]

10 minutes ago, Buffalo 24 7 said:

He is known for being good against the run.

I’ll take that too, so far so good with this guy. 

[jetstream23]

27 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said:

 

That's almost the perfect financial setup for a team like the Jets.  The Cap space is there for him right now.... unlike with some other teams.  Two weeks before the start of the season what could have been done better than getting a solid, experience capable player at a premiere position that is also a need?  The Jets can cut bait next year if they want and.... they may not want.

 

[jetstream23]

2 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

I’ll take 6. 

Same here.  Impact two plays per game on something like 3rd down by getting hurries, pressures, etc. and we're good.  He won't get double-teamed with guys like Quinnen and Rankins inside.

If Shaq helps force a couple punts per game then that's all we could ask for.

[Green Ghost]

36 minutes ago, Ghost said:

Here we go again. Always seeking credibility ?

And failing miserably.

[choon328]

5 minutes ago, Larz said:

There is more to the position than sacks, but it’s interesting to note that Carl and Shaq have the same amount of career sacks, but Carl got there in 13 fewer games. 
 

Carl’s sacks per game is .39

Shaqs sacks per game is .32

Carl has a better win % but I’m a little surprised the difference wasn’t greater to be honest 

The pressures and QB hits are MUCH higher for Carl.  There's a huge difference between those two when it comes to pass rush

[The Crusher]

Just now, jetstream23 said:

Same here.  Impact two plays per game on something like 3rd down by getting hurries, pressures, etc. and we're good.  He won't get double-teamed with guys like Quinnen and Rankins inside.

If Shaq helps force a couple punts per game then that's all we could ask for.

Price is perfect and it makes the team at least a smidge better. Especially if offense can score points. 

[Buffalo 24 7]

This trade is an amazing value. He is a decent starter being paid vet minimum.

He is best against the run. Ideally he is a 2 down player.

He struggles pass rushing. Most of his sacks are coverage sacks or effort sacks.

 

That being said, he is not a low risk, high reward player. He is a low risk, medium reward player.

It's also troubling that he is on his 4th team in 3 years. He also had trouble getting snaps in Buffalo.

[Buffalo 24 7]

7 minutes ago, Larz said:

There is more to the position than sacks, but it’s interesting to note that Carl and Shaq have the same amount of career sacks, but Carl got there in 13 fewer games. 
 

Carl’s sacks per game is .39

Shaqs sacks per game is .32

Carl has a better win % but I’m a little surprised the difference wasn’t greater to be honest 

If you are expecting Shaq to be a good pass rusher, you will be very disappointed. Most of his sacks were coverage sacks. 

[jetstream23]

 

Funny that he had a Welcome to the Texans video just a few months earlier...

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[Ken Schroy]

I like the move. Need the depth and it's great that he's hoping for a long term deal. JD and Coach Saleh will tell him, "kick ass and we will bring you back"

[joewilly12]

Rich Cimini

 

@RichCimini

Lawson due to make $990K this season, $8.9M in 2022. Contract voids in 2023, based on restructure from March. #Jets

[Ken Schroy]

17 minutes ago, Buffalo 24 7 said:

He won't

 

Jealous Jill boy? lol

[Jet Nut]

47 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Eh.  He stinks but they r desperate after the lawson injury.

And Perine is going to run for over 1,000 yards and lead the Jets

On a roll

[JETSALLDAY24X]

30 minutes ago, choon328 said:

QB hits and QB pressures tell more of the story. Carl Lawson is a MUCH MUCH better pass rusher than Shaq Lawson and it's not close.  I do think it's a solid addition but if anybody thinks he'll be as productive as Carl Lawson they need their head examined. And if anybody agrees with some stooge on this site who has zero football knowledge you need to be committed. 

Shaq will be a part of a rotation with the other young Edge Rushers. He's not going to be an every down starter. Good depth piece added that will keep guys fresh. 

You couldn't atleast qoute the guy we all know you're mentioning? Don't tell me we're taking after #33 we traded with indirect forum messages. Pretty weak 

[92ShaunEllis92]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo 24 7 said:

This trade is an amazing value. He is a decent starter being paid vet minimum.

He is best against the run. Ideally he is a 2 down player.

He struggles pass rushing. Most of his sacks are coverage sacks or effort sacks.

 

That being said, he is not a low risk, high reward player. He is a low risk, medium reward player.

It's also troubling that he is on his 4th team in 3 years. He also had trouble getting snaps in Buffalo.

So you’re telling me we got our 2nd coming of the great, but unheralded, Anthony Pleasant. 
 

 

[Spoot-Face]

48 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

6th round pick

 

 

[Jets723]

Nice move.  That’s why getting those extra 6ths helps getting a good veteran after Lawson went down 

[JustInFudge]

50 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

6th round pick

 

 

No brainer for a 6th.   He’s meh but it’s nice to have a solid veteran presence that you at least have to think about coming off the edge. 

[rtnelson]

4 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

 

 

That was hard to watch.  It sounded like there was 2 songs playing at once in combination with the commentary.  Looks like a contributor.  Nice pick up.