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4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

The night we win the Super Bowl there will be people here complaining about something. Book it.

Until we start putting together 2 to 3 great drafts we’re not sniffing one.  And yes I’m hopeful this last one was the first one. 

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7 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

I’m seeing different stats but different sites count differently so I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt. 

All sites have the same stats with the same advanced statistics too.

And I don't post fake stats because that's bad business. 

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These stats posted reflect his previous two seasons combined (Buffalo/Miami) but let me guess, you're going to thumbs down vote this post just like you've done to my posts for two weeks straight now 😅

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2 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

All sites have the same stats with the same advanced statistics too. 

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These stats posted reflect his previous two seasons combined (Buffalo/Miami) but let me guess, you're going to thumbs down vote this post just like you've done to my posts for two weeks straight now 😅

Only the bad posts.

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1 hour ago, Buffalo 24 7 said:

If you are expecting Shaq to be a good pass rusher, you will be very disappointed. Most of his sacks were coverage sacks. 

What about pressures though? Does he get good pressure even if he doesn’t get the sack?

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4 minutes ago, Biggs said:

Until we start putting together 2 to 3 great drafts we’re not sniffing one.  And yes I’m hopeful this last one was the first one. 

Respectfully I disagree.  
It’s about Zach. If He hits, you need a couple more impact players and you can win a super bowl.  
if Moore is who we think he can be and ZW becomes a top 5 QB - and JD is just competent everywhere else they will be perennial contenders.  
if ZW busts and we we put together 2 to 3 drafts we’ll still suck. 

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29 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Did you pick up one for your father like you said you would 2 weeks ago?

Nah

 

28 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Waiting for that first “new job” paycheck thanks to Bambi smashing into my hood POPS, lololol

I love this dynamic. So funny, yet so heartwarming.

*Cat's in the Cradle intensifies*

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Just now, FidelioJet said:

Respectfully I disagree.  
It’s about Zach. If He hits, you need a couple more impact players and you can win a super bowl.  
if Moore is who we think he can be and ZW becomes a top 5 QB - and JD is just competent everywhere else they will be perennial contenders.  
if ZW busts and we we put together 2 to 3 drafts we’ll still suck. 

This D which will be run over won’t get you a playoff win.  I like Zach but against good teams he’s not going to get the ball enough.  Teams will eat the clock and score on a D built with hybrid players.  

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2 hours ago, Buffalo 24 7 said:

This trade is an amazing value. He is a decent starter being paid vet minimum.

He is best against the run. Ideally he is a 2 down player.

He struggles pass rushing. Most of his sacks are coverage sacks or effort sacks.

 

That being said, he is not a low risk, high reward player. He is a low risk, medium reward player.

It's also troubling that he is on his 4th team in 3 years. He also had trouble getting snaps in Buffalo.

 

50 minutes ago, Buffalo 24 7 said:

Shaq Lawson is not the type of guy who will make you scary. Shaq is a good compliment for a pass rusher who struggles vs the run.

If he was really a good pass rusher, Buffalo wouldn't have let him go, Miami wouldn't have traded him after a year, and he didn't even make it to week 1 on the Texans.

 

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15 hours ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

The only "fool" is the one who defends Sam Darnold but yet trashes every player on the Jets. 

Shaq Lawson: previous 2 years.

1,055 Defensive Snaps.  

17 tackles for loss.

10.5 Sacks.

18 QB Hurries. 

24 QB Knockdowns. 

36 QB hits. 

53 QB pressures. 

141.5 QB Sacks/Hurries/Knockdowns/Hits/Pressures (combined).

vs. 

Brandon Copeland (2 years as a Jet).

948 defensive snaps.

13 tackles for loss.

6.5 sacks (7 career).

14 QB hurries. 

8 QB Knockdowns. 

17 QB hits. 

29 QB pressures. 

74.5 Sacks/Hurries/Knockdowns/Hits/Pressures (combined).

And only a FOOL would comparing Shaq Lawson to "Brandon Copeland".

Joe Douglas is no "fool".

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based on this site, in the past two year Lawson has contributed to 104.5 pressures.  He’s not a bad player, he’s just closer to Tarrell Basham than he is to Carl Lawson. 
 

*edit: I did this wrong too. The number is much lower than the math I did.

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1 minute ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

104.5 pressures? 

You do know how to count, right?

28 + 25 = 53 pressures (exactly what I posted).

Incorrect? 🤣

Sorry, I used pressures to mean combined knockdowns, pressures, sacks.

You claimed 141.5 in the last two years.

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12 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

Sorry, I used pressures to mean combined knockdowns, pressures, sacks.

You claimed 141.5 in the last two years.

Sorry. I counted wrong by 1 and should've used a calculator.  

18 QB Hurries. 

23 QB Knockdowns. 

10.5 QB sacks. 

53 QB pressures. 

36 QB hits. 

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140.5 QB Hurries/Knockdowns/sacks/hits/pressures. 

You set out on a mission and proved me wrong by 1. 

Happy now?

I was incorrect by 1. You were incorrect by 36 ("104.5").

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15 hours ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

The only "fool" is the one who defends Sam Darnold but yet trashes every player on the Jets. 

Shaq Lawson: previous 2 years.

1,055 Defensive Snaps.  

17 tackles for loss.

10.5 Sacks.

18 QB Hurries. 

24 QB Knockdowns. 

36 QB hits. 

53 QB pressures. 

141.5 QB Sacks/Hurries/Knockdowns/Hits/Pressures (combined).

vs. 

Brandon Copeland (2 years as a Jet).

948 defensive snaps.

13 tackles for loss.

6.5 sacks (7 career).

14 QB hurries. 

8 QB Knockdowns. 

17 QB hits. 

29 QB pressures. 

74.5 Sacks/Hurries/Knockdowns/Hits/Pressures (combined).

And only a FOOL would comparing Shaq Lawson to "Brandon Copeland".

Joe Douglas is no "fool".

Here you say in the last 2 years 

13 hours ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

Sorry. I counted wrong by 1 and should've used a calculator.  

18 QB Hurries. 

23 QB Knockdowns. 

10.5 QB sacks. 

53 QB pressures. 

36 QB hits. 

=

140.5 QB Hurries/Knockdowns/sacks/hits/pressures. 

You set out on a mission and proved me wrong by 1. 

Happy now?

I was incorrect by 1. You were incorrect by 36 ("104.5").

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In the last 2 years, he has 104.5 total pressures, sack, qb hits . Not bad but definitely not a game changer or anything more than a second starter at best.
 

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Edit: I also did the math wrong. 

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41 minutes ago, Biggs said:

This D which will be run over won’t get you a playoff win.  I like Zach but against good teams he’s not going to get the ball enough.  Teams will eat the clock and score on a D built with hybrid players.  

If you can put up points consistently it’s just about pass rush on defense in today’s NFL. There’s a reason Saleh doesn’t seem to care who is CB’s are. 
 

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1 hour ago, Bungaman said:

I don't doubt JD has his eye on the waiver cut downs, and wants to preserve that #2 position for someone he's unable to trade cheaply for. Teams are hoping to sneak (usually) younger cheaper talent on their PS, so dealing a 6th for someone experienced and cheap, while being able to pick up other talent to stash later on his own PS is a better bet.

Also, Lawson would not have had to go through the waiver process.  He is a vested veteran, if released, he would immediately have become a Free Agent.  Our #2 waiver priority would not have made a difference.

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26 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

This is incorrect.

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based on this site, in the past two year Lawson has contributed to 104.5 pressures.  He’s not a bad player, he’s just closer to Tarrell Basham than he is to Carl Lawson. 

Best on that site his AV was awful.  None impact player.  You conveniently left that off.  If you’re going to the stat bible at least quote the relevant verses. 

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