addage Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 On 9/1/2021 at 7:20 PM, Anthony Jet said: Wanna be a championship caliber team, take players cut from the worst team in the league Part of what made the Jets the 2nd worst team in the league is that they couldn't recognize or develop talent. So taking some of their players isn't all bad. Most teams keep their good players and let the weak ones go. The Jets? How would they even know? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 43 minutes ago, addage said: Part of what made the Jets the 2nd worst team in the league is that they couldn't recognize or develop talent. So taking some of their players isn't all bad. Most teams keep their good players and let the weak ones go. The Jets? How would they even know? I’m not one to defend Jet incompetence but where are all the players who escaped to Jets to be materially better elsewhere? Woodhead and Leo? Two dudes in 15 years? I think our problem is even more basic. We draft like crap. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 5 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: But I mean, they all DID suck. It’s not all Gase’s fault for all things. Gase sucks at using TEs. Absolutely. Yet Saleh saw Herndon all summer and felt he was expendable. That’s telling. And if he goes and Sam goes and all join Robby by playing well in on anew team.. then I'll be right too...it was gase. I mean I don't disagree with you completely they did in fact suck stats wise, I'm just saying the guys mentioned are talented and capable of paying better, they were held back like Robby, like Tanny etc . Herdon played well as a rook and Im really am looking to seeijgplay. But guys like gore actually sucked and are not capable of playing well. He also is not on a team that's all I'm saying 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 2 hours ago, jgb said: I’m not one to defend Jet incompetence but where are all the players who escaped to Jets to be materially better elsewhere? Woodhead and Leo? Two dudes in 15 years? I think our problem is even more basic. We draft like crap. I think that is point many are making but that doesn't mean jt Sam darnold, herdon, guys like Robby etc were horrible mismanaged here and it was almost criminal . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Just like we keep picking up 49ers trash . 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 16 hours ago, Paradis said: I don’t have the energy to defend Sam. You win. Sam is worth defending . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 4 hours ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: Just like we keep picking up 49ers trash . How have we not signed Marquise Goodwin yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 10 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: I think that is point many are making but that doesn't mean jt Sam darnold, herdon, guys like Robby etc were horrible mismanaged here and it was almost criminal . Yeah it’s pretty comical thread considering the Jets “trash” the panthers got last year was Robby and he destroyed it for them 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 36 minutes ago, Albaniajet said: Yeah it’s pretty comical thread considering the Jets “trash” the panthers got last year was Robby and he destroyed it for them I just don’t understand why some can’t simply move on. We have a new QB now we should be focused on that. No matter the opinion of Sam I think most will agree he handled himself professionally here despite being given no help by the organization. Whatever he does in Carolina is now on him but it’s not our concern. We should just be focused on Wilson development and our young team’s development 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 43 minutes ago, Jets723 said: I just don’t understand why some can’t simply move on. We have a new QB now we should be focused on that. No matter the opinion of Sam I think most will agree he handled himself professionally here despite being given no help by the organization. Whatever he does in Carolina is now on him but it’s not our concern. We should just be focused on Wilson development and our young team’s development If the Darnold-led Panthers bottom out, we could be picking as high as # 33 overall in the 2nd thanks to them (plus whatever high slot we’d get in the 4th round). It is very much our concern what Darnold and the Panthers do in 2021. Beyond that, sure, its no longer really our concern. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 37 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: If the Darnold-led Panthers bottom out, we could be picking as high as # 33 overall in the 2nd thanks to them (plus whatever high slot we’d get in the 4th round). It is very much our concern what Darnold and the Panthers do in 2021. Beyond that, sure, its no longer really our concern. Sure if the Panthers bottom out then our pick will be higher which would obviously wouldn’t make me unhappy. However I just dont have any venom toward Sam. Like I said it’s up to him now to prove himself. However one thing I think we can agree on is that the Jets did him no favors while here. Anyway I still think it’s time to focus on Wilson now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 On 9/5/2021 at 12:23 PM, Jets723 said: I just don’t understand why some can’t simply move on. We have a new QB now we should be focused on that. No matter the opinion of Sam I think most will agree he handled himself professionally here despite being given no help by the organization. Whatever he does in Carolina is now on him but it’s not our concern. We should just be focused on Wilson development and our young team’s development Zach & Sam will both have a good season 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 42 minutes ago, Albaniajet said: Zach & Sam will both have a good season Define what a “good season” for Darnold looks like, please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 11 hours ago, Albaniajet said: Zach & Sam will both have a good season Very Possible. Obviously I want Sam to have a bad game against us. Other than that I wish him well and would t be surprised to see him do pretty good in a better situation 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Jets723 said: Very Possible. Obviously I want Sam to have a bad game against us. Other than that I wish him well and would t be surprised to see him do pretty good in a better situation I wish him well too.....in 2022. In 2021 I want him to go 0-17. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 13 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Define what a “good season” for Darnold looks like, please. The kind of season he would have had with an actual head coach, offensive line and professional WRs 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Albaniajet said: The kind of season he would have had with an actual head coach, offensive line and professional WRs That’s Very True. Now it’s up to Sam. If he fails then it’s completely on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 43 minutes ago, Jets723 said: That’s Very True. Now it’s up to Sam. If he fails then it’s completely on him Yep. There are zero excuses for him now. If he still can't cut it on a team with so many weapons around and a Coaching staff that knows how to Coach, then his days as a Starting QB are done and he'll end up being a career backup on the next team he winds up on. This is a big season for Sam to prove he still belongs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 18 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Define what a “good season” for Darnold looks like, please. 4 hours ago, Albaniajet said: The kind of season he would have had with an actual head coach, offensive line and professional WRs Nice try JF80 but we both know you can never pin a Darnoid down with specifics on what success looks like. They insist on more escape clauses than an astronaut life insurance policy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Zachtion Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 6 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: I wish him well too.....in 2022. In 2021 I want him to go 0-17. This. Do you want a 1st round quality player or a 3rd round quality player? Sam can put up all the stats he wants as long as they lose. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 9 hours ago, Albaniajet said: The kind of season he would have had with an actual head coach, offensive line and professional WRs Ok and what kind of season is that. Quantify it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 7 hours ago, Jets723 said: That’s Very True. Now it’s up to Sam. If he fails then it’s completely on him What’s very true? He didn’t make a point here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CpSinceDay1 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Interesting note: The Panthers are 4-3 all-time against the Jets, winning three of four home games. Carolina's first victory in franchise history came against the Jets in its first season in 1995 when home games were played in Clemson, S.C it's like if yall can't beat us, join us until we just as sorry as you to be beaten... Sam was the final piece huh, for that I will never be able to forgive you Jets, and to think I used to go for ya'll against the Pats. Smdh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 On 9/8/2021 at 5:06 PM, Vin said: Yep. There are zero excuses for him now. If he still can't cut it on a team with so many weapons around and a Coaching staff that knows how to Coach, then his days as a Starting QB are done and he'll end up being a career backup on the next team he winds up on. This is a big season for Sam to prove he still belongs.... No doubt about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 22 hours ago, CpSinceDay1 said: Sam was the final piece huh, for that I will never be able to forgive you Jets, and to think I used to go for ya'll against the Pats. Smdh Hey, don't blame us! Thank Rhule and your front office for getting duped! You guys never should have allowed Brandon Beane (current Bills GM) get away from your organization. No matter what the QB situation would have ended up being in Carolina, no way he'd have traded for Darnold under his watch. (Beane went to my alma mater, UNCW, so I've followed his career pretty closely) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jago Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Carolina's first victory in franchise history came against the Jets in its first season in 1995. the bubby shovel pass ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CpSinceDay1 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 On 9/9/2021 at 10:12 PM, Jetsfan80 said: Hey, don't blame us! Thank Rhule and your front office for getting duped! You guys never should have allowed Brandon Beane (current Bills GM) get away from your organization. No matter what the QB situation would have ended up being in Carolina, no way he'd have traded for Darnold under his watch. (Beane went to my alma mater, UNCW, so I've followed his career pretty closely) Correct, love what him and McDermott are doing up there in buffalo. Wish we kept McDermott as HC and fired Rivera after that 2015 season... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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