Positives from today

[Doggin94it]

1) Zach Wilson. Yes, really. The kid was under duress all day and getting his first reps against a starting NFL caliber defense on his coordinator's first ever time calling a real game - and the result was pretty awful in the first half:  6/16 84 Yards, 0TD, 1INT (37.5%, 5.25 YPA). Then he came back in the second half and put up this line: 16/21, 174, 2TD, 0INT (76%, 8.28 YPA). And it wasn't because the Panthers had the game in hand and backed off the defensive pressure, either; they sacked Zach three times in each half, and our running game was atrocious throughout. Wilson's full-game stat line wasn't pretty, because that first half was so bad - and perhaps that's the QB he'll end up being. But if "second half Zach" was what happens after he and Lafleur adjusted to live bullets, and we get that guy the rest of the way ... watch out.

And yes, this is cherry-picking. But it's reasonable cherry-picking given the context, and we'll know more about how real that is soon. Plus, he did some other things that give me hope: never looked rattled, showcased his escapability, kept his eyes downfield. I'm encouraged

2) Aggressiveness on 4th Down. The Jets went for it twice on 4th down, both times in situations where previous regimes would have punted: 4th and 1 at the 42 in a 3-0 game ("pin em deep, play field position, it's close and we've held them, no need to be so aggressive right now") and 4th and 8 from our own 25 with 4 minutes left, down 2 scores ("not a lot of plays for 4th and 8, we don't make it the game is over, punt, get a stop, and go score"). Both were the right call (in the long run, you'll convert more 4th & 1s than you lose, and a punt in the game-end situation is a give-up) and bode well for the team's future.

3) Second half adjustments. Whatever the coaching staff did at halftime, it worked; the D tightened up and the offense started moving the ball better. Again, with all-new HC and OC and a young defense, seeing good half-time adjustments is important. 

Of course, these are single-game (or single-half) snapshots, they don't mean anything if they don't become a trend, and this team is in serious trouble if the OL doesn't get its head out of its ass. But there were at least some good things to build on.

[The Crusher]

Sexy for life!

[shuler82]

I was impressed by our 2nd half defense and Wilson. This is a young team with injuries- some of the guys out their weren’t on the team a week ago.   If somehow the first half was the worst half of the season it will be a good year. 

[LionelRichie]

I was impressed by the kids in d.  The cb’s were fine, the rookie LB’s were fine, the whole D was fine.   They are putting the foundation in this year.   The OL is an embarrassment.  

[NYJ1]

Corey Davis had a drop but I'm otherwise very impressed with his performance. 5 receptions 97 yards 2 TD in such an overall horrible team performance. Zach said he had the most chemistry with Davis last night before the game and that certainly seems to be the case. I'm also quite aware this is a rebuilding year. So really all told, I'm not impressed with the team, but I figured it wasn't going to be pretty today. I see a ton of potential in Zach.

Moving forward I'm hopeful Becton is OK and comes back this season. I would insert Mims into the starting lineup. He seemed to give the Jets a shot of life when he came in. I would make it a point to get Moore involved earlier. But more than anything, the CS MUST get the OL on the same page and clean up the penalties....

[joewilly12]

14 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Sexy for life!

You guys look like former RT 3 ticket scalpers.

[The Crusher]

1 minute ago, joewilly12 said:

You guys look like former RT 3 ticket scalpers.

I like you too Joe. 

[munchmemory]

No joke, Ammendola was our best player today.   Came up big with several clutch/booming punts when Mann went down.

My wife also did a double take on how ripped he is.  lol

[joewilly12]

1 minute ago, The Crusher said:

I like you too Joe. 

I like you too @The Crusher  

[SAR I]

You forgot Quinnen Williams.  It's not easy to stand in the middle of 500 yards of offense and not record a single tackle.

SAR I

[FidelioJet]

13 minutes ago, LionelRichie said:

I was impressed by the kids in d.  The cb’s were fine, the rookie LB’s were fine, the whole D was fine.   They are putting the foundation in this year.   The OL is an embarrassment.  

All the panic about the D backfield was proven to be less concerning.

The D was fine....This team lost because the OL was discraceful.

Swapping the worst OL in the NFl and adding a rookie G wasn't going to change a whole lot.

[Facts]

Just now, SAR I said:

You forgot Quinnen Williams.  It's not easy to stand in the middle of 500 yards of offense and not record a single tackle.

SAR I

Almost spit my drink out! lol

[Doggin94it]

7 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

You guys look like former RT 3 ticket scalpers.

Former?!

[joewilly12]

1 minute ago, SAR I said:

You forgot Quinnen Williams.  It's not easy to stand in the middle of 500 yards of offense and not record a single tackle.

SAR I

Who is this person you keep naming Quinnen Williams. 

[Untouchable]

Throw the bank at Scherff, draft Neal and Linderbaum, and then prosper on offense.

Is it overkill?

You bet your ass

Would it consistently give Zach 3+ seconds on every drop back and open up mammoth sized holes in the ground game? Yep

Would at least 2 of our star studded OL leave for FA within 3-4 years? Yep

And I’m more than okay with that.

Go ahead and develop a young QB the proper way. Go ahead. Why not?

I’m still a JD fan but I’d be lying if his background as a former OL and “master scout” doesn’t leave more to be desired…especially, ya know…along the OL.

[The Crusher]

2 minutes ago, SAR I said:

You forgot Quinnen Williams.  It's not easy to stand in the middle of 500 yards of offense and not record a single tackle.

SAR I

Honestly I thought he didn’t play today. He needs to buy some candy penises and throw them at his new wife and cops when they show up. Anything. Something, pitiful, 

[Rhg1084]

I thought Maye looked good and the kid Michael Carter the DB showed up too

[SAR I]

3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Who is this person you keep naming Quinnen Williams. 

Exactly right.  Even I had to look him up just now to see if he was still on the team.

And before anyone says "but...but...but Mike Maccagnan drafted him!" let me remind you that Joe Douglas has been here 3 seasons and decided this guy was the one guy he would not trade.

SAR I

[KO91]

7 minutes ago, SAR I said:

You forgot Quinnen Williams.  It's not easy to stand in the middle of 500 yards of offense and not record a single tackle.

SAR I

The kid is recovering from an injury. It’s probably going to be a down year for him until he gets healthy. 

[SAR I]

3 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Honestly I thought he didn’t play today. He needs to buy some candy penises and throw them at his new wife and cops when they show up. Anything. Something, pitiful, 

He wouldn't be the first to steal a few mil of our money and choose the retired-while-still-playing option.

SAR I

[SAR I]

1 minute ago, KO91 said:

The kid is recovering from an injury. It’s probably going to be a down year for him until he gets healthy. 

Sounds good.  Nick Bosa is already a Hall of Famer, but let's give Q a few years, you know, take it easy on the kid, let him take some 'me' time.

SAR I

[Beerfish]

10 minutes ago, SAR I said:

You forgot Quinnen Williams.  It's not easy to stand in the middle of 500 yards of offense and not record a single tackle.

SAR I

Don't forget our LB we have paid like 50 million dollars to  over the last 3 years who was one of the ghosts darnold was ignoring.

[KO91]

3 minutes ago, SAR I said:

Exactly right.  Even I had to look him up just now to see if he was still on the team.

And before anyone says "but...but...but Mike Maccagnan drafted him!" let me remind you that Joe Douglas has been here 3 seasons and decided this guy was the one guy he would not trade.

SAR I

Why don’t try having ankle surgery and play NFL football 3 months later. You don’t know what you are talking about obviously. 

[KO91]

1 minute ago, SAR I said:

Sounds good.  Nick Bosa is already a Hall of Famer, but let's give Q a few years, you know, take it easy on the kid, let him take some 'me' time.

SAR I

I don’t need to wait. He’s already proven he’s an awesome player. 

[SAR I]

2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Don't forget our LB we have paid like 50 million dollars to  over the last 3 years who was one of the ghosts darnold was ignoring.

Yup.

Becton puts on weight and sucks and Q and CJ lose weight and suck.  

And these are the guys that Douglas wouldn't trade away.  Think about that.

SAR I

[SAR I]

3 minutes ago, KO91 said:

Why don’t try having ankle surgery and play NFL football 3 months later. You don’t know what you are talking about obviously. 

Here's what I know:  I've been paying the Jets $5,000 a year for season tickets for the last 20 years and I want to see the people we've brought in here actually live up to expectations.  I'm not asking for the playoffs.  I'm not even asking for a winning season.  My expectations are that low.   

SAR I

[RevisIsland610]

2 minutes ago, SAR I said:

Sounds good.  Nick Bosa is already a Hall of Famer, but let's give Q a few years, you know, take it easy on the kid, let him take some 'me' time.

SAR I

He had a damn good year last year. He was hurt this year and didn't play a single snap in pre-season. The fact that he was invisible today is no surprise. 

[choon328]

21 minutes ago, SAR I said:

You forgot Quinnen Williams.  It's not easy to stand in the middle of 500 yards of offense and not record a single tackle.

SAR I

 

[FidelioJet]

8 minutes ago, SAR I said:

Sounds good.  Nick Bosa is already a Hall of Famer, but let's give Q a few years, you know, take it easy on the kid, let him take some 'me' time.

SAR I

QW is a JAG+ and nothing more.  

Mac had no right taking a DT at that point.  No point in arguing about the worst GM in the history of the sport though.

[BigRy56]

The Jets defense was what I was most worried about and they played well. They looked well coached and tackled well. For a team trotting out a bunch of nobodies at CB and 2 rookies at LB, they looked really good.

The second half adjustments scream good coaching to me. I can’t remember a time when we went into halftime in a bad spot and that spot didn’t get worse after the half.

Wilson played really well. The OL got their ass handed to them 100% of the game and he managed to not let the whole deal get to him. Sam used to fold by the third quarter and Wilson got much better as the game went on. He does need to learn to throw the football away - some really stupid decisions in that regard

[Sonny Werblin]

Jets O is only 4 points off the pace to be the highest scoring O in the AFC East.

[Greg555]

Of the new QBs…who had the best day…and who had the worst?

fairly sure Trevor Lawrence didn’t have the best.

[SAR I]

6 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

QW is a JAG+ and nothing more.  

Mac had no right taking a DT at that point.  No point in arguing about the worst GM in the history of the sport though.

Agreed, but Joe Douglas kept him!  He’s had 3 seasons to throw him on the pyre with Jamal Adams, Robbie Anderson, and Leonard Williams and decided he was the one guy he wouldn’t get rid of!

Quinnen is on Douglas now.  He’s played for him a lot longer than he played for Maccagnan. 

SAR I

[FidelioJet]

2 minutes ago, SAR I said:

Agreed, but Joe Douglas kept him!  He’s had 3 seasons to throw him on the pyre with Jamal Adams, Robbie Anderson, and Leonard Williams and decided he was the one guy he wouldn’t get rid of!

Quinnen is on Douglas now.  He’s played for him a lot longer than he played for Maccagnan. 

SAR I

And, now you're back.

[Anthony Jet]

Re: Fist half Zach, I was really impressed with the throw to Moore, the second consecutive drop (border line PI). Was perfectly put after scrambling, his release is beautiful

 

cherry picking yes, but that throw stood out to me