Jets PFF Grades

[JohnnyLV]

7 minutes ago, KO91 said:

Who is Tim Ward?

We picked him up off the the first round of waivers after the cut to 53.  He is a talented DE. Someone said here KC fans were really upset to lose him.

[Guilhermezmc]

22 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

Full list 

the offensive line should've been rated lower IMO

[Jet hustle]

Anyone have quinnen williams and marcus maye pff grades?

 

Both seemed to have uneventful games.

[Team archer]

20 minutes ago, KO91 said:

Who is Tim Ward?

Picked him up off waivers. Former chief 

[Maxman]

2 hours ago, section314 said:

Interesting to know how the Panther D line graded out.

Also how did he not grade out at 100? If he played 3 plays and had a huge 40 yard catch that is pretty much the perfect day for him.

[Maxman]

9 minutes ago, Jet hustle said:

Anyone have quinnen williams and marcus maye pff grades?

 

Both seemed to have uneventful games.

Quinnen's grades won't be in for another 3 days. They have to zoom in on the game film to even find him.

[Warfish]

2 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

 

Great example why I tend to ignore PFF Grades.

Mims was a ghost literally the entire game outside one catch.  A non-entity.

And he gets PFF's highest grade, over Davis at that?

And Wilson, the best player on the field on Offense, no where to be seen?

Thanks PFF, you're drunk, go home.

[Flightattendant]

1 minute ago, Maxman said:

Quinnen's grades won't be in for another 3 days. They have to zoom in on the game film to even find him.

Havent inveted a phone with a big enough screen to see how far down he is.

[jeremy2020]

Can we go back to the pre-season?

[HawkeyeJet]

2 hours ago, Be_a_Jet said:

Eye Test:

Van Roten is a liability

McGovern is not good

CJ Mosley graded low but I thought he did well, he'll settle in - not worried

Bryce Hall is not a bust - we'll see how good he is thou

Zach Wilson > Darnold

McCaffrey > everything

Pass Rush is non-existent

If the other team stops our run game we are screwed

Bryce Hall was a 6th round pick.  If he was out of the NFL this morning he wouldn’t be a bust.  Bryce Hall is arguably the best pick Douglas has made so far.  He’s at minimum a serviceable player.  Could be quite good in the long run.

[TheClashFan]

5 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Great example why I tend to ignore PFF Grades.

Mims was a ghost literally the entire game outside one catch.  A non-entity.

And he gets PFF's highest grade, over Davis at that?

And Wilson, the best player on the field on Offense, no where to be seen?

Thanks PFF, you're drunk, go home.

And on Mims's catch, he just jogged straight down the sideline and was not picked up by anyone.  I guess he gets credit for being "wide open," making "a catch," and some good "yards after catch"?  At best, a very small sample size for that rating.

Sure, play him more, whatever, but what's the criteria for a WR rating at PFF?

 

[thshadow]

21 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Great example why I tend to ignore PFF Grades.

Mims was a ghost literally the entire game outside one catch.  A non-entity.

And he gets PFF's highest grade, over Davis at that?

It's like QB rating though.  If you have your RB throw a pass, and he completes it for 20 yards, he gets a QB rating of 154, right?  Highest rated passer!

I think Mims was only on the field for a couple of plays.  So one big catch in a couple of snaps is a high rating...

[Lith]

2 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

LaFleur has to get over whatever his issue is with the guy and get him the ball

Yup.  3 snaps and he made a big play on one of them.  I really like the guy and do not understand why he is being handled this way.

[Sonny Werblin]

1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said:

 

Who is Tim Ward? And how did he grade so high when I never heard his name mentioned during the game?

[bgivs21]

44 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Great example why I tend to ignore PFF Grades.

Mims was a ghost literally the entire game outside one catch.  A non-entity.

And he gets PFF's highest grade, over Davis at that?

And Wilson, the best player on the field on Offense, no where to be seen?

Thanks PFF, you're drunk, go home.

He was a non-entity because he was only on the field for 3 snaps! 

PFF can only grade whats put in front of them. I think youre a bit off on your criticism on this one. 

[Action Zachtion]

2 hours ago, Claymation said:

 

I like the idea of grading like this, but I understand why coaches I've heard talk about film review only assign a ++(rarely), +, or - to every play. 

Some of these scores lead to silly conclusions. 

[jetstream23]

4 hours ago, Be_a_Jet said:

Eye Test:

Van Roten is a liability

McGovern is not good

CJ Mosley graded low but I thought he did well, he'll settle in - not worried

Bryce Hall is not a bust - we'll see how good he is thou

Zach Wilson > Darnold

McCaffrey > everything

Pass Rush is non-existent

If the other team stops our run game we are screwed

I'm very surprised by CJ's PFF grade.  He looked pretty good to me as well.  Eyeballs vs. stats/data I guess.

[ZakkAttak]

3 hours ago, TheClashFan said:

And on Mims's catch, he just jogged straight down the sideline and was not picked up by anyone.  I guess he gets credit for being "wide open," making "a catch," and some good "yards after catch"?  At best, a very small sample size for that ratin

Sure, play him more, whatever, but what's the criteria for a WR rating at PFF?

 

Doesn't look like catching a TD pass rates that highly.

[Claymation]

4 hours ago, Guilhermezmc said:

the offensive line should've been rated lower IMO

What should be the scores? Thanks in advance.

[jetstream23]

lol

 

[Lith]

More from PFF:

 

[Sonny Werblin]

22 hours ago, jetstream23 said:

lol

 

Why is that a joke? 

[Augustiniak]

5 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said:

Why is that a joke? 

What’s interesting is that the players are aware of it.

[FidelioJet]

10 minutes ago, Lith said:

More from PFF:

 

This is exactly why we shouldn't be too concerned with sloppy play.

Problem is the OL only had one Rookie....

[slimjasi]

6 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

What’s interesting is that the players are aware of it.

Oh, of course they are. The vast majority of these guys are on social media and people send them stuff. 

I have a friend who played very briefly in the NFL about 5 years ago. He told me that most of the guys he knew obsessed over this stuff and that most guys who say they don't pay attention are full of it. I always figured that was the case, but it was interesting to hear some (admittedly anecdotal) confirmation. 

[FidelioJet]

On 9/13/2021 at 10:58 AM, HawkeyeJet said:

Bryce Hall was a 6th round pick.  If he was out of the NFL this morning he wouldn’t be a bust.  Bryce Hall is arguably the best pick Douglas has made so far.  He’s at minimum a serviceable player.  Could be quite good in the long run.

Good point.  I think you're right - Who's been better?

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

I like PFF when it confirms what I think I already know.

I hate PFF when it makes the player I like look bad. What the hell do they know?

[Action Zachtion]

8 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

I like PFF when it confirms what I think I already know.

I hate PFF when it makes the player I like look bad. What the hell do they know?

I'm just not sure how they can grade with not knowing the players assignment.  How do you know who makes a mistake between an OL or RB in a blown protection, or which DB.... We think we know who but we don't really.  

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

3 minutes ago, Action Zachtion said:

I'm just not sure how they can grade with not knowing the players assignment.  How do you know who makes a mistake between an OL or RB in a blown protection, or which DB.... We think we know who but we don't really.  

[Doggin94it]

On 9/13/2021 at 10:29 AM, KO91 said:

Who is Tim Ward?

Edge we picked up from the Chiefs cuts

[rangerous]

On 9/13/2021 at 8:44 AM, Be_a_Jet said:

Eye Test:

Van Roten is a liability

McGovern is not good

CJ Mosley graded low but I thought he did well, he'll settle in - not worried

Bryce Hall is not a bust - we'll see how good he is thou

Zach Wilson > Darnold

McCaffrey > everything

Pass Rush is non-existent

If the other team stops our run game we are screwed

hmmm...with all those negatives how did they lose by 5 and had a chance in the 4th?  that must mean zach is something pretty special.

[rangerous]

2 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

This is exactly why we shouldn't be too concerned with sloppy play.

Problem is the OL only had one Rookie....

oline only has one rookie but 4/5ths of those guys are learning a new system and they still haven't played a complete game together.  i'm hopeful they'll work things out in short order.

[FidelioJet]

5 minutes ago, rangerous said:

oline only has one rookie but 4/5ths of those guys are learning a new system and they still haven't played a complete game together.  i'm hopeful they'll work things out in short order.

But that 4/5th was the same 4/5 starting OL from last year and it was the worst in the league.

I'll hope with you, but I wouldn't count on it.

[rangerous]

23 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

But that 4/5th was the same 4/5 starting OL from last year and it was the worst in the league.

I'll hope with you, but I wouldn't count on it.

even they largely turned their game around in the second half.  it takes time for an oline to get it together.  these guys were embarrassed and if saleh is the real deal he'll get them turned around pdq.

[GreenFish]

2 hours ago, Augustiniak said:

What’s interesting is that the players are aware of it.

Doesn’t surprise me. Agents are starting to use PFF grades when negotiating contracts. It’s only a small portion of fans that try and discredit them.