Popular Post HessStation Posted September 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 So I rewatched Youtube “every Wilson pass” and think there’s an overreaction on Becton’s game. I saw him get beat twice on an inside spin move for a pressure (which was still a completion) and the sack in the 2nd quarter….which if there was a pocket for Wilson to step into, wouldn’t have happened. -The inside pressure (throw away) in the 1st quarter was ? on Vera-Tucker. (I was hearing people blame Becton at the time) -In the 2nd quarter he missed on one inside spin move/ pressure which btw was a completion to the flat on the other side. -Last pass play of the 2nd, on the sack, Wilson did hold the ball for a long time and kept moving back instead of stepping into the pocket... Mostly Bc the interior OL was getting pushed -2nd half (and pretty much the entire 1st half minus two plays) he was looking great including on the play he was injured. -Side note: it was Van Roten (who stinks) + defender who rolled into him on the injury….it wasn’t AVT or McGovern getting abused (like some, including myself, initially thought) ?? 13 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Snell Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 great analysis ! Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted September 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 AVT played like a rookie who missed 2/3rds of training camp. Honestly I think these guys will Improve as they learn the system and gel. We should have as much if not more concern for the D line. That was the supposed strength of this team and are marquee guy Q was a no show for the most part. A lot to work on. For sure. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Becton has a long way to go to live up to his hype. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted September 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 Just now, freestater said: Becton has a long way to go to live up to his hype. Big ticket playing like free admission right now. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FidelioJet Posted September 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 Becton's biggest problem isn't that he's getting beat on occasion (although it's not good) It's that he can't stay healthy. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Big ticket playing like free admission right now. Right now, my impressions of Becton are him coming off the field several times last year for "a cold"/getting winded, looking out of shape, getting blown up consistently by Carl Lawson during this Summer's camp, going full turnstile yesterday and almost getting Zack killed, and what will almost assuredly be a season ending injury. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Becton's biggest problem isn't that he's getting beat on occasion (although it's not good) It's that he can't stay healthy. Sof… nope , not doing it, I’m gonna stay positive. But yeah. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Between the foot injury, the “he’s working through some thing’s “ comments and the concussion, all that missed time and reps, new blocking scheme, I was expecting Becton to struggle. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Losing Becton was a negative. Anything to the contrary is agenda-driven. He’s not Pace, Jones or Ogden, but he’s played well. Needs to stay on the field, however, but he’s a positive when he’s on the field. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Just now, munchmemory said: Right now, my impressions of Becton are him coming off the field several times last year for "a cold"/getting winded, looking out of shape, getting blown up consistently by Carl Lawson during this Summer's camp, going full turnstile yesterday and almost getting Zack killed, and what will almost assuredly be a season ending injury. Have you had breakfast yet brother? I just finished my third, it helped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KO91 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 The biggest problem was the interior. Wilson didn’t have anywhere to step up. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Have you had breakfast yet brother? I just finished my third, it helped. So far, only coffee. All I will say is that I have not had a good feeling about the guy since the pick. WTF do I know anyway? Just commenting from what has been a unimpressive start to the Becton Era. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flightattendant Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Honestly I thought the least amount of pressure came from the left. I didn't go back and watch tape but the interior was collapsing. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 33 minutes ago, The Crusher said: AVT played like a rookie who missed 2/3rds of training camp. Honestly I think these guys will Improve as they learn the system and gel. We should have as much if not more concern for the D line. That was the supposed strength of this team and are marquee guy Q was a no show for the most part. A lot to work on. For sure. New system, hard to learn, the starting 5 took 0 snaps together in preseason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 46 minutes ago, HessStation said: So I rewatched Youtube “every Wilson pass” and think there’s an overreaction on Becton’s game. I saw him get beat twice on an inside spin move for a pressure (which was still a completion) and the sack in the 2nd quarter….which if there was a pocket for Wilson to step into, wouldn’t have happened. -The inside pressure (throw away) in the 1st quarter was ? on Vera-Tucker. (I was hearing people blame Becton at the time) -In the 2nd quarter he missed on one inside spin move/ pressure which btw was a completion to the flat on the other side. -Last pass play of the 2nd, on the sack, Wilson did hold the ball for a long time and kept moving back instead of stepping into the pocket... Mostly Bc the interior OL was getting pushed -2nd half (and pretty much the entire 1st half minus two plays) he was looking great including on the play he was injured. -Side note: it was Van Roten (who stinks) + defender who rolled into him on the injury….it wasn’t AVT or McGovern getting abused (like some, including myself, initially thought) ?? This is consistent with what I saw and was arguing yesterday. Was he phenomenal? No, but I think some will clean up with better communication. For those saying he was horrible, again, please convince me. Clearly the running game needs some work, maybe in that aspect? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 26 minutes ago, KO91 said: The biggest problem was the interior. Wilson didn’t have anywhere to step up. Wilson was constantly running out of the pocket because our Guards suck azz 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Hopefully getting embarrassed yesterday will be a good learning experience for next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 I thought he was over emotional on the cart. He needs to play that with less tears and more grimace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 43 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Becton's biggest problem isn't that he's getting beat on occasion (although it's not good) It's that he can't stay healthy. Give me a break. A player rolled up the back of his leg. Anybody would have been hurt if that happened to them. People around here love ragging on Becton. It's a new passtime. PFF grades from the Carolina game: 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 I watched every pass as well and I came to a different conclusion. The pressure came from the right side of the line on most pass attempts (from 53 and 43 - Reddick and Burns) . In addition, there was some inside pressure as well, which did not enable Wilson to step up. Becton was not that bad. AVT got pushed around quite a bit. He looked like a player who had missed camp. But Becton playing ok does not fit the agenda of the SOJ "chicken little" chronic complainers - that JD is a bad GM and/or Wilson is inferior to Darnold and/or Saleh/Lafleur can't coach. These people would have us change GMs and Coaches every season unless and until the team has a long playoff run, which ensures that the Jets never will. And it satisfies their never ending need to be able to say "I was right," which to them is perversely more enjoyable than the Jets having any success. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 41 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Have you had breakfast yet brother? I just finished my third, it helped. Denny's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Denny's? You should know by now, no personal attacks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Denny's? Where Crush is affectionately known as the "Patron of the Grand Slam Breakfast". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, HessStation said: So I rewatched Youtube “every Wilson pass” and think there’s an overreaction on Becton’s game. I saw him get beat twice on an inside spin move for a pressure (which was still a completion) and the sack in the 2nd quarter….which if there was a pocket for Wilson to step into, wouldn’t have happened. -The inside pressure (throw away) in the 1st quarter was ? on Vera-Tucker. (I was hearing people blame Becton at the time) -In the 2nd quarter he missed on one inside spin move/ pressure which btw was a completion to the flat on the other side. -Last pass play of the 2nd, on the sack, Wilson did hold the ball for a long time and kept moving back instead of stepping into the pocket... Mostly Bc the interior OL was getting pushed -2nd half (and pretty much the entire 1st half minus two plays) he was looking great including on the play he was injured. -Side note: it was Van Roten (who stinks) + defender who rolled into him on the injury….it wasn’t AVT or McGovern getting abused (like some, including myself, initially thought) ?? Okay Hess ,,,but here's the thing he has issues with speed rushers and he cant stay healthy hes just too damn big and the pressure on his knees and ankles and feet has to be off the charts. So you are talking Pass Protection but his run blocking was non existent something you would think would be his strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: AVT played like a rookie who missed 2/3rds of training camp. Honestly I think these guys will Improve as they learn the system and gel. We should have as much if not more concern for the D line. That was the supposed strength of this team and are marquee guy Q was a no show for the most part. A lot to work on. For sure. Yep the AVT issues looked more like him missing assignments than getting beat or not being able to play 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, HessStation said: Yep the AVT issues looked more like him missing assignments than getting beat or not being able to play Plus no way to know how bad his pec was and how completely it healed. Pushing is a bitch with a torn peck. By mid season I expect to be high on the guy again. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: Becton's biggest problem isn't that he's getting beat on occasion (although it's not good) It's that he can't stay healthy. Thank you. We all think Becton is talented. But for a high first round pick you expect more, and he seems more like a project, then an immediate impact. Finally, as Fedlio points out the guy cant stay healthy. That turns great football players in to mediocre guys team roll the dice on in a jam, not a consistent starter like we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Van Rotten is Feeney without the mullet, we need to do better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 The he got hurt again stuff is a bit ridiculous IMO. He got rolled on, it happens - and it happens more when the interior is getting pushed around so much. Might as well question Mann's injury - hopefully they will both be fine soon. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 So, how long is Becton going to be out for? They might as well draft another left tackle since Becton only plays partial seasons anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flightattendant Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, thebuzzardman said: So, how long is Becton going to be out for? They might as well draft another left tackle since Becton only plays partial seasons anyway. Been 1 season and 1 game man. He played almost every game last year. Step off the ledge. Lots of other guys are flying under the hurt all the time radar. Lawson and mosley come to mind. Why do they get passes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet hustle Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: Becton's biggest problem isn't that he's getting beat on occasion (although it's not good) It's that he can't stay healthy. This.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Becton played fine. Not a great game, not a bad game and definitely not the disaster some on here pretend it was. AVT was a disaster but it was game one after being injured for most of a month. Not worried about him yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Tony Mandarich was one of the best college OL ever. How did that turn out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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