Popular Post Cut Jet Penalty Makers Posted September 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2021 Ashtyn Davis, James Morgan, Zuniga, Perine, in 2020..the list goes on this year..Round 4 Michael Carter looks decent, but the rest?..que pasa?..looks like we got a bust factory going on.. 7 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoot-Face Posted September 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Cut Jet Penalty Makers said: looks like we got a bust factory going on.. 2 2 1 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, Cut Jet Penalty Makers said: Ashtyn Davis, James Morgan, Zuniga, Perine, in 2020..the list goes on this year..Round 4 Michael Carter looks decent, but the rest?..que pasa?..looks like we got a bust factory going on.. Idk but that name Zuniga always screamed bust to me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 You need a lifeSent from the NY Jets Training Camp Suicide Watch desk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guilhermezmc Posted September 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2021 Don't forget how bad his free agents are 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut Jet Penalty Makers Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, jetspenguin said: You need a life Sent from the NY Jets Training Camp Suicide Watch desk. Ad hominem that doesn't address the comment are a reflection on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 that hot take is about 2 weeks late homie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 His FAs suck, also. Three years in, not a single marquee draft "hit" on his CV. He probably needs Wilson to "hit" to stay employed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 5 hours ago, oatmeal said: Idk but that name Zuniga always screamed bust to me Is that MetLife? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Guilhermezmc said: Don't forget how bad his free agents are But also don’t forget how much money we saved by going Perriman/Fant instead of Robby/Conklin. Every little helps. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: But also don’t forget how much money we saved by going Perriman/Fant instead of Robby/Conklin. Every little helps. Draft picks and roll over cap league champs. Hey, when you don't have football wins, that's all we have to cheer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AFJF Posted September 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Cut Jet Penalty Makers said: Ad hominem that doesn't address the comment are a reflection on you. Writing off draft picks after a handful of games says a fair bit about you as well. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Idk. Bryce Hall, Bryce Huff, MC1, MC2, Javelin Guidry, AVT all played well yesterday. Becton was a top 10 left tackle last year. Jury is still out on Mims and Moore, Hamsah. Douglas also picked up Berrios and JFM off waivers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Idk. Bryce Hall, Bryce Huff, MC1, MC2, Javelin Guidry, AVT all played well yesterday. Becton was a top 10 left tackle last year. Jury is still out on Mims and Moore, Hamsah. Douglas also picked up Berrios and JFM off waivers. All decent players but not a difference maker among them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Butterfield said: All decent players but not a difference maker among them. I’m afraid we’re going to have to be patient about difference makers. Wilson is supposed to be that guy and he’s going to be the guy who will turn Moore into a difference maker or some other players. That’s the way the nfl works and the jets just joined this season after being laid off for 10 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Idk. Bryce Hall, Bryce Huff, MC1, MC2, Javelin Guidry, AVT all played well yesterday. Becton was a top 10 left tackle last year. Jury is still out on Mims and Moore, Hamsah. Douglas also picked up Berrios and JFM off waivers. If Mims with his A++ athletic profile can't even dress on this team to run 3-4 go routes a game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I think the smart thing to do here is push the panic button.... Let's all jump out a window I am right behind you... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted September 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2021 As hard as I am on GM's drafting ability, I'm somewhat of mind to give him a pass on the 2020 draft. It was his first ever draft, it was totally wonky with Covid impacting the ability to do the normal process, if I'm not mistaken he didnt have his scouts yet, right? Either way, he was also drafting for a different scheme/coaching staff which could impact some of the decision making. If Becton and Hall hit...and he gets something out of a Davis/Perrine/Mims, it's not a total disaster. Just seems it now because the only player on the field is Hall. Way to early to know what you have in 2021 but I thought AVT, Carter and the young defenders play quite well yesterday. Obviously, it's ultimately all about Zachkapono but even as bad as he's been, its way too soon to know. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Claw Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Look, the 2020 draft, right now, is looking a little dismal for sure; however, there are some legitimate things that could explain it. At this point, I don’t know if I list Covid as one since the rest of the league dealt with it as well, so it does level the field a bit. The ones that I see having more of an impact are it being JDs first draft as head honcho, and that he probably drafted players with Gase in mind. Becton was good last season and didn’t have a history of injuries in college. I can’t blame JD for this one. The Mims situation is just weird and not one of us really knows whats up. Davis, Zuniga, and Morgan are odd picks, but I still think Davis can be effective if he can get on the field. Hall has been good, and the punter has been serviceable. Clark is injured, obviously so who knows. This draft was not great by any means, but there are contributors there. This past draft class has been pretty good so far, actually. Wilson, as we saw, stunk, but the rest of the active class is progressing. AVT played well, the Carters played well, Moore flashed, etc. it’s still only two games games though. It could go either way. Its not as bad as you think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 8 hours ago, Icer said: that hot take is about 2 weeks late homie Best 9-25 GM ever 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 hours ago, kdels62 said: Idk. Bryce Hall, Bryce Huff, MC1, MC2, Javelin Guidry, AVT all played well yesterday. Becton was a top 10 left tackle last year. Jury is still out on Mims and Moore, Hamsah. Douglas also picked up Berrios and JFM off waivers. FREE DENZEL! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Albaniajet said: Best 9-25 GM ever Ok damn, that one made me snort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, JiFapono said: As hard as I am on GM's drafting ability, I'm somewhat of mind to give him a pass on the 2020 draft. It was his first ever draft, it was totally wonky with Covid impacting the ability to do the normal process, if I'm not mistaken he didnt have his scouts yet, right? Either way, he was also drafting for a different scheme/coaching staff which could impact some of the decision making. If Becton and Hall hit...and he gets something out of a Davis/Perrine/Mims, it's not a total disaster. Just seems it now because the only player on the field is Hall. Way to early to know what you have in 2021 but I thought AVT, Carter and the young defenders play quite well yesterday. Obviously, it's ultimately all about Zachkapono but even as bad as he's been, its way too soon to know. Also not like he had much of a choice. He kept CJ Mosley who led this team in tackles yesterday exactly the way he is being paid to. People all talking about cutting him, all washed up, fat and happy whatever. Dude is back and balling! Thank you Joe Douglas. Thank you 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 The bottom line is the bottom line. If the Jets are profitable, the Johnsons are ok with that and nothing will change. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 11 hours ago, Cut Jet Penalty Makers said: Ashtyn Davis, James Morgan, Zuniga, Perine, in 2020..the list goes on this year..Round 4 Michael Carter looks decent, but the rest?..que pasa?..looks like we got a bust factory going on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 On 9/20/2021 at 6:50 AM, JiFapono said: As hard as I am on GM's drafting ability, I'm somewhat of mind to give him a pass on the 2020 draft. It was his first ever draft, it was totally wonky with Covid impacting the ability to do the normal process, if I'm not mistaken he didnt have his scouts yet, right? Either way, he was also drafting for a different scheme/coaching staff which could impact some of the decision making. If Becton and Hall hit...and he gets something out of a Davis/Perrine/Mims, it's not a total disaster. Just seems it now because the only player on the field is Hall. Way to early to know what you have in 2021 but I thought AVT, Carter and the young defenders play quite well yesterday. Obviously, it's ultimately all about Zachkapono but even as bad as he's been, its way too soon to know. On 9/20/2021 at 8:19 AM, the Claw said: Look, the 2020 draft, right now, is looking a little dismal for sure; however, there are some legitimate things that could explain it. At this point, I don’t know if I list Covid as one since the rest of the league dealt with it as well, so it does level the field a bit. The ones that I see having more of an impact are it being JDs first draft as head honcho, and that he probably drafted players with Gase in mind. Becton was good last season and didn’t have a history of injuries in college. I can’t blame JD for this one. The Mims situation is just weird and not one of us really knows whats up. Davis, Zuniga, and Morgan are odd picks, but I still think Davis can be effective if he can get on the field. Hall has been good, and the punter has been serviceable. Clark is injured, obviously so who knows. This draft was not great by any means, but there are contributors there. This past draft class has been pretty good so far, actually. Wilson, as we saw, stunk, but the rest of the active class is progressing. AVT played well, the Carters played well, Moore flashed, etc. it’s still only two games games though. It could go either way. Its not as bad as you think. The problem with his drafts, and i think i said this somehwere else - is the lack of success. Not necessarily that the book is closed on 2020 class yet - but where are the landmark picks? Where's the guys that are showing up to validate his prowess? Wilson has a long way to go to start looking like a Herbert type success. WRs... well i won't go there, think Moore is fine, just being over-thrusted Oline.. no great campfire stories there. at all Secondary - potential there, but no one's balling out yet Running back - again, decent but no story to herald. Maybe some hope with MC In 2.5 years with a lot of $$$$ and a lot PICKS -- his resume is as middle of the fkcing road as it gets. And thats not good enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 JD can’t be held responsible for injuries. I think this year’s draft looks promising. Like the 2 Carter guys and some of the later picks. Think though that Zach would have benefitted from a veteran Qb presence. AVT will be fine. Should have drafted more off. Linemen though. The depth is really worrisome. He totally ignored TEs, supposedly a QBs best friendSent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 13 hours ago, Spoot-Face said: Are they hiring? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Thanks for creating a new thread. We have never discussed this before. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Butterfield said: All decent players but not a difference maker among them. Based on what? Their body of work that doesn't exist yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 13 hours ago, Cut Jet Penalty Makers said: Ashtyn Davis, James Morgan, Zuniga, Perine, in 2020..the list goes on this year..Round 4 Michael Carter looks decent, but the rest?..que pasa?..looks like we got a bust factory going on.. Didn't Echols and Ariaga II both play a ton of snaps yesterday? We ran for like 5 YPC behind AVT, Moore went 4/47, etc. What a weird thread. Great username though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSALLDAY24X Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 13 hours ago, Cut Jet Penalty Makers said: Ashtyn Davis, James Morgan, Zuniga, Perine, in 2020..the list goes on this year..Round 4 Michael Carter looks decent, but the rest?..que pasa?..looks like we got a bust factory going on.. Yeah.. Pretty much goes the same for every organization LMAO. The overwhelming majority players in the draft bust. They're lottery tickets. If you get a few quality guys you're doing good and i think Joe has done that so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Drafted Players (From Pro-Football Reference): Misc Passing Rushing Receiving Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2021 1 Zach Wilson 2 QB 2021 0 0 0 0 2 39 70 468 2 5 3 19 0 BYU 2021 1 Alijah Vera-Tucker 14 OL 2021 0 0 0 0 2 USC 2021 2 Elijah Moore 34 WR 2021 0 0 0 0 2 5 44 0 Mississippi 2021 4 Michael Carter 107 RB 2021 0 0 0 0 2 15 65 0 3 43 0 North Carolina 2021 5 Jamien Sherwood 146 DB 2021 0 0 0 0 1 Auburn 2021 5 Michael Carter 154 S 2021 0 0 0 0 2 Duke 2021 5 Jason Pinnock 175 CB 0 0 0 Pittsburgh 2021 6 Hamsah Nasirildeen 186 DB 2021 0 0 0 0 2 Florida St. 2021 6 Brandin Echols 200 CB 2021 0 0 0 0 2 Kentucky 2021 6 Jonathan Marshall 207 DL 0 0 0 Arkansas Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2020 1 Mekhi Becton 11 T 2021 0 0 1 4 15 Louisville 2020 2 Denzel Mims 59 WR 2021 0 0 1 2 10 24 397 0 Baylor 2020 3 Ashtyn Davis 68 S 2020 0 0 1 3 10 California 2020 3 Jabari Zuniga 79 DE 2020 0 0 0 0 8 Florida 2020 4 La'Mical Perine 120 RB 2020 0 0 0 2 10 64 232 2 11 63 0 Florida 2020 4 James Morgan 125 QB 0 0 0 Florida International 2020 4 Cameron Clark 129 T 0 0 0 Charlotte 2020 5 Bryce Hall 158 CB 2021 0 0 1 4 10 1 Virginia 2020 6 Braden Mann 191 P 2021 0 0 0 2 17 Texas A&M Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ Not a great look so far for the 2020 class to be fair. Becton looked good with lots of upside last year, had a bad camp, bad week 1, then got hurt for a big chunk of this season looks like. Mims is benched/inactive, the center of the dram right now here at JN. But not playing. Same as Perine, but no one is drama'ing for Perine. David, hurt, wasn't great so far. Zuniga, Morgan, Clark, egh. Hall looks good IMO. Mann was ok (till hurt). Verdict: Becton might stay, Hall, Mims maybe? For 2021, it's too early to tell for any of them really IMO. Got to give these kids a t least a season to start basing viewpoints on, but not a ton of early "wow!" from this group either honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Claw Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 13 hours ago, Paradis said: The problem with his drafts, and i think i said this somehwere else - is the lack of success. Not necessarily that the book is closed on 2020 class yet - but where are the landmark picks? Where's the guys that are showing up to validate his prowess? Wilson has a long way to go to start looking like a Hubert type success. WRs... well i won't go there, think Moore is fine, just being over-thrusted Oline.. no great campfire stories there. at all Secondary - potential there, but no one's balling out yet Running back - again, decent but no story to herald. Maybe some hope with MC In 2.5 years with a lot of $$$$ and a lot PICKS -- his resume is as middle of the fkcing road as it gets. And thats not good enough. I fail to see how he’s had a lot of picks. He’s had two drafts and his second draft class is in their third week of league play. I agree that that his first draft looks rough right now but I don’t think he really reached for anybody. and what do you mean landmark picks? Wilson wasn’t a “landmark pick?” Lawrence sucked this past week too should he have passed on him if he picked first? has he made questionable personnel choices? Yes. What GM hasn’t? I have not been happy with his OLine FA signings so far, although I liked the Moses signing. Honestly, with the team that Mac left it’s no wonder it’s taking longer to see results. I saw the team at 6-11 this year and I still think that’s where they’ll be. I do think they will be more competitive than during Gase’s tenure. The guy’s been doing the job for two years, basically. Why did you think a second year GM was going to be any better than middle of the road? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Becton was heralded as the next great tackle he gets a fluke injury and now he’s a bust you guys need help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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