#27TheDominator Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 You know who else started off 0-2? The 1998 Jets that I always hear you mother****ers wax poetically about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said: You know who else started off 0-2? The 1998 Jets that I always hear you mother****ers wax poetically about. What Jets team hasn't started off 0-2? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Jet2020 said: We don’t pay for that good player, prefer to trade him for draft busts and if we hit on any of those picks, we don’t pay for that good player, prefer to trade him for draft busts and if we hit on any of those picks, we don’t pay for that good player, prefer to trade him for draft busts and if we hit on any of those picks, we don’t pay for that good player, prefer to trade him for draft busts and if we hit on any of those…. sh*t, that’s Jets. Sounds like the Steelers to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snook Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 9/20/2021 at 9:13 AM, kevinc855 said: He had full control of the roster after and made such bright moves like Mack 10 million dollars to never play center. He was here for 2019. Stop pretending different Who could he have picked up that would have made a difference? Acting like the main free agency period and draft doesn’t matter in team make up is odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Just now, Snook said: Who could he have picked up that would have made a difference? Better players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 9/20/2021 at 10:05 AM, FidelioJet said: This is what was most concerning. I don't mind him taking shots, being aggressive and making mistakes. That was going to happen and I'm totally cool with him being agressive. The problem is he was not accurate at all. Even the completions weren't precise. Not sure you can fix that.. It's amazing what one week of getting battered can do to a quarterback. The Panthers rattled Wilson, and he subsequently spent the entire game in Week 2 throwing off his back foot whether there was real pressure or not. We did not see these tendencies at all during camp and preseason. The Jets need to fix it and quickly. The last thing we need is the young franchise quarterback getting ruined before he reaches the halfway point of his rookie season. The offensive line should have been embarrassed by their performance in Week 1. They rebounded nicely, but some damage has already been done. Wilson needs to settle back down and gain his confidence back. It's easier said than done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFavoriteMartin28 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Also you guys are freaking out about Jets after they played Bill Belichick who knows how to make rookie QBs uncomfortable... "Belichick improved his record against rookie passers to 22-6 via the Patriots' victory over the Jets. Belichick's defenses have now allowed just 9.5 points per game in their last six games against rookie quarterbacks. His opponents in those contests include Wilson, Tua Tagovailoa, Justin Herbert, Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold and Josh Allen. All were top-10 selections. The Patriots have also allowed just 20 TD passes to rookie QBs under Belichick. They have recorded a whopping 41 interceptions during that time." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 48 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Sounds like the Steelers to me. Yeah well Steelers draft players. We draft busts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snook Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 50 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Better players. Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Snook said: Who? Im not going to name them all and look back but there were some decent free agents available in 2020 that would have improved this roster. Review our roster it's weak we lack many key starting positions and depth in many areas. We needed to acquire a decent TE we failed. WR Corey Davis nice addition but still need another legit WR maybe Galloday would have been a good signing to help ZW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snook Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Im not going to name them all and look back but there were some decent free agents available in 2020 that would have improved this roster. Review our roster it's weak we lack many key starting positions and depth in many areas. We needed to acquire a decent TE we failed. I was talking about 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 9/20/2021 at 8:14 AM, kevinc855 said: They won 7 games. They were not better they were much better That team also started 1-7 (with a SECOND YEAR QB) when the season was still up for grabs and then beat a bunch of tomato cans to eek out 6 of their last 8 wins. This team has played two games. Long way to go comparing this team to that one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 49 minutes ago, MyFavoriteMartin28 said: Also you guys are freaking out about Jets after they played Bill Belichick who knows how to make rookie QBs uncomfortable... "Belichick improved his record against rookie passers to 22-6 via the Patriots' victory over the Jets. Belichick's defenses have now allowed just 9.5 points per game in their last six games against rookie quarterbacks. His opponents in those contests include Wilson, Tua Tagovailoa, Justin Herbert, Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold and Josh Allen. All were top-10 selections. The Patriots have also allowed just 20 TD passes to rookie QBs under Belichick. They have recorded a whopping 41 interceptions during that time." Yes his 72.7 winning percentage against rookie QB's is amazingly better than his 72.5 percent winning percentage against the entire league as the Pats HC. The Pats under BB win most of the time. That's one of the reasons we go through HC and GM's. BB is good and is in our division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 We are 2 games into a full, ground up rebuild and we know already its not working? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, MyFavoriteMartin28 said: Also you guys are freaking out about Jets after they played Bill Belichick who knows how to make rookie QBs uncomfortable... "Belichick improved his record against rookie passers to 22-6 via the Patriots' victory over the Jets. Belichick's defenses have now allowed just 9.5 points per game in their last six games against rookie quarterbacks. His opponents in those contests include Wilson, Tua Tagovailoa, Justin Herbert, Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold and Josh Allen. All were top-10 selections. The Patriots have also allowed just 20 TD passes to rookie QBs under Belichick. They have recorded a whopping 41 interceptions during that time." Zachs bad game has nothing to do with BB. He just made bad throws and choices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFavoriteMartin28 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 38 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Zachs bad game has nothing to do with BB. He just made bad throws and choices He’s played 8 quarters of football you guys have to relax….and yes numbers don’t lie Bill Belichick schemes well against rookies, look at the TD to Int ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 9/20/2021 at 8:26 AM, sec101row23 said: Actually, the “rebuild” is working exactly as the Johnson brothers have hoped it would. A rebuild keeps fans hopeful while accepting losing. The perennial mantra of “hey we have a top 3 draft pick and $80M in cap room, oh the possibilities” is the ultimate rebuilding mindset. It’s exhausting, wake me up when it becomes about the wins and losses, because this perennial rebuilding has run its course. Great points. In today’s NFL, with the obscene amounts of $ that each franchise now makes from all the tv and merchandise deals the league has with it’s business partners, there is zero incentive to win. None. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, MyFavoriteMartin28 said: He’s played 8 quarters of football you guys have to relax….and yes numbers don’t lie Bill Belichick schemes well against rookies, look at the TD to Int ratio. I’m not freaking about about Zach. But I’m also not going to chalk his poor choices and throws up to some great defensive scheme. He needs to learn check downs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, kevinc855 said: Zachs bad game has nothing to do with BB. He just made bad throws and choices Huh? The greatest defensive mind in the history of football vs a kid from BYU in his 2nd nfl game. I am sure bellichek had nothing to do with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 2 hours ago, DoubleDown said: It's amazing what one week of getting battered can do to a quarterback. The Panthers rattled Wilson, and he subsequently spent the entire game in Week 2 throwing off his back foot whether there was real pressure or not. We did not see these tendencies at all during camp and preseason. The Jets need to fix it and quickly. The last thing we need is the young franchise quarterback getting ruined before he reaches the halfway point of his rookie season. The offensive line should have been embarrassed by their performance in Week 1. They rebounded nicely, but some damage has already been done. Wilson needs to settle back down and gain his confidence back. It's easier said than done. Absolutely nailed it, Wilson was panicking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Huh? The greatest defensive mind in the history of football vs a kid from BYU in his 2nd nfl game. I am sure bellichek had nothing to do with this. He didn’t. Watch some tape man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 People want rebuilds, but can't tolerate what it actually looks like. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origen Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 3 hours ago, phill1c said: What Jets team hasn't started off 0-2? 1986! 1-1 to 10-1 to whatever else happened I was only 12 and can't remember that far back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOJ Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 lets see, New: HC, OC, DC, all new position coaches, new schemes, one of the youngest - if not the youngest - rosters in the league and the rebuild is a failure, really? having said that, what I expected was some dysfunction on the road to becoming a "legitimate" competitive team... Now they should get better every week and if they do not then you either have:1) the wrong players - and can fault the CS and FO, 2) Wrong schemes or are way to complicated for players (see #1 - remember they drafted high caliber players), 3) wrong CS, and 4) Wrong FO. Now maybe the schemes can be simplified to help but if they do that and are still failing, then yea, I'll agree the plan is failing. However, if they do get better and are a goood competitive football team by say game 10-12, then we are on the right path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origen Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, section314 said: Great points. In today’s NFL, with the obscene amounts of $ that each franchise now makes from all the tv and merchandise deals the league has with it’s business partners, there is zero incentive to win. None. These guys don't even need to do anything and this is profitable to them. But, Ownership is 100% a club, and the problem with the Johnson's is the fact that they kept getting their d*cks stomped on by everybody at the club and were too stupid to notice everybody laughing. This entire process that we are 2 games into was the whole point that the Johnson's were done getting d*ck stomped and were letting the football guys do their thing. We are 2 games into the season. Your team Winning means you swing the biggest d*ck at the club. All the boys want it. They don't care about the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 41 minutes ago, Icer said: People want rebuilds, but can't tolerate what it actually looks like. Not all of us. I’m not a big believer in it. They are risky. It gets tossed around without a clear definitions. I have seen tho losing franchises are the ones saying they are “rebuilding” and winning franchisees are simply “retooling” each year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 48 minutes ago, Icer said: People want rebuilds, but can't tolerate what it actually looks like. Is it supposed to look like a decade of being the worst team in the league? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 3 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: You know who else started off 0-2? The 1998 Jets that I always hear you mother****ers wax poetically about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 51 minutes ago, Icer said: People want rebuilds, but can't tolerate what it actually looks like. The Jets will be tanking for Arch Manning in 4 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Kevin, I’m going to pray for you. I feel bad for the ones that have to live with you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ghost said: Kevin, I’m going to pray for you. I feel bad for the ones that have to live with you. More upvotes then downvotes..believe you are in the minority sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, kevinc855 said: He didn’t. Watch some tape man Too funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 For reasons unknown other than the default poor leadership from ownership/business side- the Jets since Mangini have done an absolute horrid job at identifying football character and been a able to conduct risk assessment of potential injury in both free agency and the draft. Like unfathomably bad. Bell Trumaine Johnson Polite Revis 2.0 Becton Milliner Amaro Pryor Geno Percy Harvin Wilkerson 2.0 Coples Sheldon Richardson Kyle Wilson Devin Smith Steve Hill Darron Lee Aradrius Stewart The corner from Miami who quit the team Im sure I'm missing a few too, but these were all high picks, major signings and literally all these dudes have been busts and or took the Johsnon's money and produced squat. This spans multiple GM's. It's impossible to be this bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 hours ago, JiFapono said: Is it supposed to look like a decade of being the worst team in the league? JD's rebuild is in Year 2. What came before matters to fans, not the front office. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 On 9/20/2021 at 12:05 PM, FidelioJet said: This is what was most concerning. I don't mind him taking shots, being aggressive and making mistakes. That was going to happen and I'm totally cool with him being agressive. The problem is he was not accurate at all. Even the completions weren't precise. Not sure you can fix that.. He was pinpoint accurate the first game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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