Well, someone has to ask this. Would the Jets be worse off than they are now if Gase was still HC

[More Cowbell]

I mean I literally see no difference in the team except for the all gas no brakes thing

[AFJF]

22 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

I mean I literally see no difference in the team except for the all gas no brakes thing

One of two things.

1. You weren't paying attention last season.

2. You're not paying attention this season.

[kdels62]

 

Epic take

[Jets Voice of Reason]

I feel like no one had to ask this question.

[joewilly12]

[kevinc855]

I think Adam Gase was not a good coach, BUT like Saleh he was handed a roster impossible to win more then 5 games with. Remember when Sams number one target was Cager? yes that happened for some games. 

[The Crusher]

Oh for heavens sake. 

[Wit]

I don’t think fans can notice the culture change yet. It will hopefully start translating into wins this year. 

[AFJF]

2 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

I think Adam Gase was not a good coach, BUT like Saleh he was handed a roster impossible to win more then 5 games with. Remember when Sams number one target was Cager? yes that happened for some games. 

Which games were those?  Cager played in 2 career games and played more than 10 snaps in just one of them.

[Gastineau Lives]

It's been two games. Two.

[Ken Schroy]

34 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

I mean I literally see no difference in the team except for the all gas no brakes thing

You are actually asking this? I feel sad for you.

[jgb]

Gase has never developed a QB.

-Darnold - fail

-Tannehill's best Miami years were before Gase arrived

-Cutler was a 10th year vet when Gase got his hands on him for one year in CHI.

-Peyton Manning - "One or two sugars, sir?"

Rewarding failure by giving Gase an opportunity to develop another QB would not only be foolish but downright un-American.

[Barry McCockinner]

[jgb]

10 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Oh for heavens sake. 

A commonality between sports and politics is that previous disasters often enjoy a bit of a rehabilitation so that the "worst ever" moniker can be recycled and applied ad infinitum.

[Gastineau Lives]

2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I wonder how many takes they did to get that just right.

[Albaniajet]

Gase was horrible.  In an alternate reality Woody hires McCarthy two years ago and Sam is still here playing well and we have a much better roster

[Albaniajet]

9 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said:

It's been two games. Two.

Yeah and Zach and this coaching staff have looked great

[Charlie Brown]

8 minutes ago, jgb said:

Gase has never developed a QB.

-Darnold - fail

-Cutler was a 10th year vet when Gase got his hands on him for one year in CHI.

-Tannehill's best Miami years were before Gase arrived

Giving Gase another opportunity to develop another QB would not only be foolish but downright un-American.

The bolded part was ALWAYS ignored by those who defended Gase last year!  

Indeed, Gase made Tannehill less effective and Tanny now has gone on to have a reassurance of sorts in Tennessee.....

Adam Gase.. Adam Gase

Adam Gase was responsible for some of the WORST football I have ever seen at the NFL level and that includes Rich Kotite!

Remember those games when Sam was out with MONO.. I have NEVER seen a WORSE TEAM EVER AT THE NFL LEVEL!

Adam Gase!

Good Grief!

[Green DNA]

12 minutes ago, AFJF said:

Which games were those?  Cager played in 2 career games and played more than 10 snaps in just one of them.

Please refrain from letting facts get in the way of a good argument.

[Charlie Brown]

2 minutes ago, Albaniajet said:

Gase was horrible.  In an alternate reality Woody hires McCarthy two years ago and Sam is still here playing well and we have a much better roster

Oh but we had folks out here saying that McCarthy was just as bad as Adam Gase!

OH NO HE WASN'T or ISN'T!!

[Lith]

Difference is that Gase was in year 3, with a 3rd year QB who still played like a rookie.  Saleh has a rookie QB that played like a rookie yesterday.

Maybe we shoudl give it more than 2 games to pass judgement on Saleh.

[Ken Schroy]

5 minutes ago, Albaniajet said:

Yeah and Zach and this coaching staff have looked great

Yeah, so lets fire them all and start all over again. You are a genius.

[Albaniajet]

Just now, Ken Schroy said:

Yeah, so lets fire them all and start all over again. You are a genius.

No they’ll all be fired and two years and Zach will be a backup somewhere 

[jgb]

9 minutes ago, Albaniajet said:

Gase was horrible.  In an alternate reality Woody hires McCarthy two years ago and Sam is still here playing well and we have a much better roster

I wanted McCarthy at the time as the best of what I saw as bad options. We were very late in the cycle of musical coaching chairs and once we lost Rhule and McCarthy, we were basically left with the panic hire of Gase, which was an abject disaster.

McCarthy certainly would've been better than Gase but is he the long term answer? We know he can win with loaded squads/elite QBs but he's largely an unknown in more... challenging situations where the Jets seem to continuously find themselves.

[kevinc855]

18 minutes ago, AFJF said:

Which games were those?  Cager played in 2 career games and played more than 10 snaps in just one of them.

Do research...it helps 

https://www.9news.com/article/sports/nfl/jets-ugly-0-3-start/73-c24e79a0-2331-4bd7-ac53-67d08b28640f

[Rangers9]

Gase in Miami and here believed in getting rid of players who he couldn’t fit into the system even if they were talented. The thing is his system wasn’t that good but he only had two years on the job. He didn’t have the cred to get more years like an established coach like Payton would etc. They could withstand bad seasons. Because they had been successful in the NFL. One guy to look at is Urban Meyer who has the cred but not in the NFL. If he doesn’t turn it around in two seasons there it will be interesting to see what happens in Jax. 

[Albaniajet]

4 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said:

Oh but we had folks out here saying that McCarthy was just as bad as Adam Gase!

OH NO HE WASN'T or ISN'T!!

McCarthy is so much better than not only Gase but Saleh and he easily would have been our best HC since Bill Parcells

 

The guy developed Aaron Freakin Rodgers what else did the Johnsons want?

 

[Ken Schroy]

Just now, Albaniajet said:

No they’ll all be fired and two years and Zach will be a backup somewhere 

I don't think so. But I am sure you are hoping it happens so you can show us how right you were. Spare me.

[Albaniajet]

Just now, jgb said:

I wanted McCarthy at the time as the best of what I saw as bad options. We were very late in the cycle of musical coaching chairs and once we lost Rhule and McCarthy, we were basically left with the panic hire of Gase, which was an abject disaster.

McCarthy certainly would've been better than Gase but is he the long term answer? We know he can win with loaded squads/elite QBs but he's largely an unknown in more... challenging situations where the Jets seems to continuously find themselves.

It’s the great fork in the road.  Woody picks McCarthy we still have Sam here, a better roster, and maybe not a playoff team but at least we’re playing competitive football

[Albaniajet]

Just now, Ken Schroy said:

I don't think so. But I am sure you are hoping it happens so you can show us how right you were. Spare me.

I don’t care.  I’d love to be wrong and be celebrating Zach throwing for 400 yards and 5tds yesterday but it’s never happening.  He sucks and Saleh is a DC

[RevisIsland610]

Holy overreaction. Good Lord it's been 2 games with a rookie QB. 

[PS17]

[RevisIsland610]

4 minutes ago, Albaniajet said:

McCarthy is so much better than not only Gase but Saleh and he easily would have been our best HC since Bill Parcells

 

The guy developed Aaron Freakin Rodgers what else did the Johnsons want?

 

McCarthy was dogsh*t last year. 

[Albaniajet]

Just now, RevisIsland610 said:

Holy overreaction. Good Lord it's been 2 games with a rookie QB. 

I’m sure they’ll turn it around next Sunday on the road facing the Broncos D

[More Cowbell]

I must have missed all those posts that said we would look like a clown show this first two games but it will be ok