Saleh at Ease Like Jets Are 2-0 - He & JD Ain't Going Anywhere Soon

[McNeil]

Echoing a recent thread (and sure much of it is Saleh's Zen demeanor):

But Saleh's presser yesterday - he looks like the Jets are the cat's meow. Not 0-2 with arguably the NFL's worst offense. Joking with the media, patiently explaining, cheerful & smiling.

Ya just get the sense the Johnsons have intimated to him: build this program in your own image, we believe in you and we’re going to be patient. And I think JD is in the same boat. Johnsons want to see them together mold a program and see where it’s at in 1-2-3 years.

So considering donning patience hats, folks. For better or worse it seems that's where the Jets are headed.

 

 

[The Crusher]

To be fair guys been telling us this is going to be a rough start and get worse before it gets better since training camp. We just prefer not to hear it and act like we are shocked by the the results. Pretty sure the Jets front office is way less surprised by this flat start than we are. 

[kevinc855]

Saleh laughs at his press conferences....

Calm down guys, all is well, 15-2 baby

[Barry McCockinner]

9 minutes ago, McNeil said:

Echoing a recent thread (and sure much of it is Saleh's Zen demeanor):

But Saleh's presser yesterday - he looks like the Jets are the cat's meow. Not 0-2 with arguably the NFL's worst offense. Joking with the media, patiently explaining, cheerful & smiling.

Ya just get the sense the Johnsons have intimated to him: build this program in your own image, we believe in you and we’re going to be patient. And I think JD is in the same boat. Johnsons want to see them together mold a program and see where it’s at in 1-2-3 years.

So considering donning patience hats, folks. For better or worse it seems that's where the Jets are headed.

 

 

Did you actually expect Saleh to be on some sort of hot seat or something? He's coached two games with a rookie QB at the helm and the team showed a lot of improvement from week 1 -> week 2 attributable to competent coaching.

At some point we need to have patience with our rookie HC choices or we'll be forever spinning our tires in a mud pit of insanity.

[The Crusher]

3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Did you actually expect Saleh to be on some sort of hot seat or something? He's coached two games with a rookie QB at the helm and the team showed a lot of improvement from week 1 -> week 2 attributable to competent coaching.

At some point we need to have patience with our rookie HC choices or we'll be forever spinning our tires in a mud pit of insanity.

Yeah but we’ve been losing for a decade and we expected Saleh to fix this by the second game. Why not?

[All Gas, No Gase]

Other than ZW, the team showed a lot of improvement in one week, and the defense has played better than anyone expected. As long as everyone continues to improve including LaFleur and ZW, there is a lot to be excited about. 

[BornJetsFan1983]

15 minutes ago, McNeil said:

Echoing a recent thread (and sure much of it is Saleh's Zen demeanor):

But Saleh's presser yesterday - he looks like the Jets are the cat's meow. Not 0-2 with arguably the NFL's worst offense. Joking with the media, patiently explaining, cheerful & smiling.

Ya just get the sense the Johnsons have intimated to him: build this program in your own image, we believe in you and we’re going to be patient. And I think JD is in the same boat. Johnsons want to see them together mold a program and see where it’s at in 1-2-3 years.

So considering donning patience hats, folks. For better or worse it seems that's where the Jets are headed.

 

 

yeah absoluetly and he is a good coach and adult. He knows he is doing a good job and the team is making improvments all over, since Joe got here really. It will take some time to show it on the field but we are already seeing the lockeroom change and roster change. 

I also think they know they have something in zach. It was game two. Perspective is King and I think everyoene is happy that we are on the right track. It may not be Aron Rogers game two wins, BUT trevor lawrence has just as many INTs...we dont have to over react to a rookie qb not winning games.

[RedBeardedSavage]

We're the youngest team in the league, starting multiple rookies on both sides of the ball, have a first year coaching staff and one of the least talented rosters in the league.

Granted, we're all right to be frustrated after week one where nobody on the offensive line did their job and week two where our quarterback throws four interceptions.

But at some point expectations should match reality, and I think the coaching staff and the front office know this is a 'redshirt' year.

[BornJetsFan1983]

2 minutes ago, All Gas, No Gase said:

Other than ZW, the team showed a lot of improvement in one week, and the defense has played better than anyone expected. As long as everyone continues to improve including LaFleur and ZW, there is a lot to be excited about. 

I dont think this is fair, I think Zach looked good playing, sure he made some bad throws but he was out there ballin. Slinging it, I like that. 

I wish we has some back and some drops didnt happen but I also like that is out there throwing it. I really wouldnt be excite dto get a MAcc Jones PAT win where the qb doesnt really do anything other than make safe throws. I am fully confident that zach wilson can make check down throws. I want him to learn out to push the ball downfield.

[JoJoTownsell1]

18 minutes ago, McNeil said:

Echoing a recent thread (and sure much of it is Saleh's Zen demeanor):

But Saleh's presser yesterday - he looks like the Jets are the cat's meow. Not 0-2 with arguably the NFL's worst offense. Joking with the media, patiently explaining, cheerful & smiling.

Ya just get the sense the Johnsons have intimated to him: build this program in your own image, we believe in you and we’re going to be patient. And I think JD is in the same boat. Johnsons want to see them together mold a program and see where it’s at in 1-2-3 years.

So considering donning patience hats, folks. For better or worse it seems that's where the Jets are headed.

 

 

I am  not thrilled with our start, but what else do you expect? You think any NFL owner would threaten to fire a HC after 2 games??? 

[JustInFudge]

19 minutes ago, McNeil said:

So considering donning patience hats, folks. 

[munchmemory]

The laughs and lightheartedness disappear if the losses continue.  Happens to all HCs when their teams tank and the fans and media pile on.

[BornJetsFan1983]

Just now, RedBeardedSavage said:

We're the youngest team in the league, starting multiple rookies on both sides of the ball, have a first year coaching staff and one of the least talented rosters in the league.

Granted, we're all right to be frustrated after week one where nobody on the offensive line did their job and week two where our quarterback throws four interceptions.

But at some point expectations should match reality, and I think the coaching staff and the front office know this is a 'redshirt' year.

DOnt you also get the impression that they feel like they are going to start winning game sooner rather than later?

 

I do . I think they have a plan and structure and thier best estimates are seeing what they expected at this points. It might not be good, but maybe they expect to be at point A in game 1 at Point B in game two so on and so on. so game 5 or wahtever they will expect to be compettitive on all 3 phases of the game and if any wins come from now till then that is bonus, but the team need to learn to play the game the way the coaching staff envisions. And the line certianally seems to have got to that point in game two. Zach maybe not so much but he will get there.

I dont know it feels good to be a jet fan!

[kevinc855]

3 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

I think Zach looked good playing,

What???

[The Crusher]

Other than Zach Wilson blowing last game they improved from week 1 to week 2. So that’s nice. 

[Nick Blitz]

Youngest team in the league

Playing the most rookies in the league 

Rookie QB, OC and head coach

Multiple injuries

2 weeks in

Played a good Panthers team close, got blown out by Pats (to be expected)

Some folk need to really re-think their expectations vs reality.

 

 

 

[Green hat]

I say we start signing our HCs to 2 game contracts. If you can't turn this franchise around by then, good riddance. Next man up. 

[Sammybighead]

Not to sound rude, but is this even necessary to point out? Sales is 2 games into his tenure, of course he’s going nowhere!

Are people really trying to replace him already?

 

[All Gas, No Gase]

1 minute ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

I dont think this is fair, I think Zach looked good playing, sure he made some bad throws but he was out there ballin. Slinging it, I like that. 

I wish we has some back and some drops didnt happen but I also like that is out there throwing it. I really wouldnt be excite dto get a MAcc Jones PAT win where the qb doesnt really do anything other than make safe throws. I am fully confident that zach wilson can make check down throws. I want him to learn out to push the ball downfield.

I’m not trying to be too critical of ZW. I do think he played worse in the second game though. IMO the 1st int was him trying to make a wow through to impress the crowd from a poor play call. The 3rd int seemed to be a timing issue as he threw too late, both nothing that can’t be corrected. He also needs to learn when to push the ball downfield and when to go to his check down.

I believe he will learn from his mistakes quickly and bounce back.

I’m actually optimistic about the Jet’s future as some of the rookies are showing promise after just two games especially on defense. 

[Scotty Wooty Doo Doo]

I distinctly remember a post asking what do you thing our record will be at the end of the season . I cant remember  anyone saying 17-0 as a possibility , hell 15-2 wasnt one either . RELAX !!!!

[T0mShane]

I remember when Adam Gase inherited an exponentially worse roster from a guy who was arguably the worst GM in the history of modern athletics and you people screamed bloody murder until he was fired. But ok.

[FTL Jet Fan]

31 minutes ago, McNeil said:

Echoing a recent thread (and sure much of it is Saleh's Zen demeanor):

But Saleh's presser yesterday - he looks like the Jets are the cat's meow. Not 0-2 with arguably the NFL's worst offense. Joking with the media, patiently explaining, cheerful & smiling.

Ya just get the sense the Johnsons have intimated to him: build this program in your own image, we believe in you and we’re going to be patient. And I think JD is in the same boat. Johnsons want to see them together mold a program and see where it’s at in 1-2-3 years.

So considering donning patience hats, folks. For better or worse it seems that's where the Jets are headed.

 

 

That is exactly the type of coach this franchise needs. Gase didn’t even make it through his introductory  press conference without having a nervous breakdown. 
Suspect thread OP.

[Barry McCockinner]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

I remember when Adam Gase inherited an exponentially worse roster from a guy who was arguably the worst GM in the history of modern athletics and you people screamed bloody murder until he was fired. But ok.

Adam Gase is one of the worst coaches in NFL history. What is your point and why do you continue to defend him?

[BornJetsFan1983]

11 minutes ago, All Gas, No Gase said:

I’m not trying to be too critical of ZW. I do think he played worse in the second game though. IMO the 1st int was him trying to make a wow through to impress the crowd from a poor play call. The 3rd int seemed to be a timing issue as he threw too late, both nothing that can’t be corrected. He also needs to learn when to push the ball downfield and when to go to his check down.

I believe he will learn from his mistakes quickly and bounce back.

I’m actually optimistic about the Jet’s future as some of the rookies are showing promise after just two games especially on defense. 

yeah i look at those plays and you see the check down guy open, you could tell he was trying to force it or thought he was good but yeah Im with you I think.

[slats]

9 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I remember when Adam Gase inherited an exponentially worse roster from a guy who was arguably the worst GM in the history of modern athletics and you people screamed bloody murder until he was fired. But ok.

Yeah, in his second season as he was leading the team to an 0-13 start. Not after two games. 

[Biggs]

Reminds me of Bellichek.  Joking and laughing during press confrences. 

[Maynard13]

44 minutes ago, McNeil said:

Echoing a recent thread (and sure much of it is Saleh's Zen demeanor):

But Saleh's presser yesterday - he looks like the Jets are the cat's meow. Not 0-2 with arguably the NFL's worst offense. Joking with the media, patiently explaining, cheerful & smiling.

Ya just get the sense the Johnsons have intimated to him: build this program in your own image, we believe in you and we’re going to be patient. And I think JD is in the same boat. Johnsons want to see them together mold a program and see where it’s at in 1-2-3 years.

So considering donning patience hats, folks. For better or worse it seems that's where the Jets are headed.

 

 

Thats good becuase its football. Not 3 on 3 basketball league.  Any winning team takes times to come together. 

[bostonmajet]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

I remember when Adam Gase inherited an exponentially worse roster from a guy who was arguably the worst GM in the history of modern athletics and you people screamed bloody murder until he was fired. But ok.

The team he inherited was not good, but there was some talent there - he had Darnold who is the second coming I hear..

As for Gase:

1. the eyes thing at his first press conference didn't help his cause

2. he never adjusted and made stupid in game decisions - last year the team was lost and the guy still wouldn't go for it on 4th down - remember

3. he wouldn't play a rookie if there was a vet on the bench - even if the bench was in the ICU

4. he didn't seem to have a game plan or any plan

5. the team did get worse from one season to the next; and his players quit on him.

6. I hated the fire from day one and didn't like the organization structure.

7. He blamed everyone but himself for loosing (of course there was plenty of blame to go around)

8. He didn't seem to be on the same page as the GM even though he kind of picked him.

 

If Selah fails to get better (not necessarily wins) by the second half of the season, I am sure you will see many of us be less patient

[chirorob]

1 hour ago, McNeil said:

Echoing a recent thread (and sure much of it is Saleh's Zen demeanor):

But Saleh's presser yesterday - he looks like the Jets are the cat's meow. Not 0-2 with arguably the NFL's worst offense. Joking with the media, patiently explaining, cheerful & smiling.

Ya just get the sense the Johnsons have intimated to him: build this program in your own image, we believe in you and we’re going to be patient. And I think JD is in the same boat. Johnsons want to see them together mold a program and see where it’s at in 1-2-3 years.

So considering donning patience hats, folks. For better or worse it seems that's where the Jets are headed.

Would it be better if after his first 2 games as a head coach with a rookie QB he be worried about his job?

He should get pissed for lack of effort, if it's there.   But he should act confident and relaxed, if looks like he is getting tight after 2 games, the team will start to get tight.

[Jet9]

1 hour ago, RedBeardedSavage said:

We're the youngest team in the league, starting multiple rookies on both sides of the ball, have a first year coaching staff and one of the least talented rosters in the league.

Granted, we're all right to be frustrated after week one where nobody on the offensive line did their job and week two where our quarterback throws four interceptions.

But at some point expectations should match reality, and I think the coaching staff and the front office know this is a 'redshirt' year.

We've missed the playoffs for 10 years and prices sure as sh*t aren't going down. The Jets get no more excuses. 

[UntouchableCrew]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

I remember when Adam Gase inherited an exponentially worse roster from a guy who was arguably the worst GM in the history of modern athletics and you people screamed bloody murder until he was fired. But ok.

We had a sample size on Adam Gase. We knew that hire was DOA when it was made.

Similar to how Dolphins fans knew Mike Tannenbaum was an awful hire and Bills fans knew Rex was an awful hire, you can't watching someone f*ck up and fail in your own division and then hire them. It's crazy. Tanny and Rex actually had some semblance of success to point to as well.

[UntouchableCrew]

2 hours ago, McNeil said:

Echoing a recent thread (and sure much of it is Saleh's Zen demeanor):

But Saleh's presser yesterday - he looks like the Jets are the cat's meow. Not 0-2 with arguably the NFL's worst offense. Joking with the media, patiently explaining, cheerful & smiling.

Ya just get the sense the Johnsons have intimated to him: build this program in your own image, we believe in you and we’re going to be patient. And I think JD is in the same boat. Johnsons want to see them together mold a program and see where it’s at in 1-2-3 years.

So considering donning patience hats, folks. For better or worse it seems that's where the Jets are headed.

 

 

This has been pretty clear to anyone who was paying attention.

JD got a six year contract. He was put in charge of making the HC hire and the organizational hierarchy. He and Saleh are in lockstep and are in this together.

Joe Douglas, Robert Saleh, and Zack Wilson are the "triumvirate" for this franchise through the end of 2023 at least.

[munchmemory]

2 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

This has been pretty clear to anyone who was paying attention.

JD got a six year contract. He was put in charge of making the HC hire and the organizational hierarchy. He and Saleh are in lockstep and are in this together.

Let's pray the tandem leap goes better than this.

[genot]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

I remember when Adam Gase inherited an exponentially worse roster from a guy who was arguably the worst GM in the history of modern athletics and you people screamed bloody murder until he was fired. But ok.

Gase is an OC now for his hometown H.S. That pretty much tells you what HE thinks his prospects are of ever landing another NFL gig. Tom. Cmon Man!!!!!!

[T0mShane]

2 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said:

We had a sample size on Adam Gase. We knew that hire was DOA when it was made.

Similar to how Dolphins fans knew Mike Tannenbaum was an awful hire and Bills fans knew Rex was an awful hire, you can't watching someone f*ck up and fail in your own division and then hire them. It's crazy. Tanny and Rex actually had some semblance of success to point to as well.

This is an excellent, well-reasoned response that I have taken to heart and I will contemplate it when I see Jets fans coalescing around a failed Saleh regime even though they trashed Gase for lesser crimes. Thank you, @UntouchableCrew