Albaniajet Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, doitny said: is that Justin Fields? he had a hell of a game today. maybe we should have drafted him... Geno Fields 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanJet Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 People can't actually believe its all on Zach can they? I mean you have eyes right? You see how awful every part of the Jets are right? Plenty of blame to go around from the owner on down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, ScouserJet said: I still think we lack quality everywhere in offence. The Guy that mentioned the dropped passes on the first page is spot on. Look at the Broncos and how well they did with their throws (when they weren’t killing us with the run) and it helps to have competent receivers. The guy has a shot, but if he gets pummelled every week cause the O-Line can’t protect him, he will make mistakes and he will just stagnate. His confidence already looks shot. I fully believe that Wilson is a good QB, but don’t think we’re anywhere near equipped to support the kid. Why they never brought in a Vet QB, is anyone’s guess? Is that the GM? HC? LaFleur? Good Post. I still have faith in Wilson. We just went through this with Sam. When you give the kid no support or protection they’re going to struggle mightily. I don’t care how good of a QB you are if you don’t have weapons who can actually catch big plays, no oline, and bad cia bing you’re going to fail 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 i knew it would be bad, but only because we always play historically bad in Denver. last time there in 2017 we lost 23-0. and we came there there at 5-7 and they were 3-9 we lost 27-0 in 2005. last Jet team to win in Denver was in 2010. maybe next time we have to get there on a Monday to give us a week to get use to the air or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I feel like this is just a cliche in Wilson’s case. He’s a skinny kid who played a poofy schedule at BYU and had one good statistical season. He was drafted for his potential, now for what he could give you now. At the least, they should have made him beat someone out for the job. It won’t be too long now until the rest of the team starts turning on Wilson and Saleh simply due to the appearance that the kid was gifted the job when he clearly wasn’t ready for it. there is a long list of people on this team that are not qualified to start in the NFL...they should look in the mirror before looking at anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, doitny said: i knew it would be bad, but only because we always play historically bad in Denver. last time there in 2017 we lost 23-0. and we came there there at 5-7 and they were 3-9 we lost 27-0 in 2005. last Jet team to win in Denver was in 2010. maybe next time we have to get there on a Monday to give us a week to get use to the air or something. I remember the Jets losing 42-7 in Denver week 1. Webb Slaughter caught the only td Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Jets723 said: Good Post. I still have faith in Wilson. We just went through this with Sam. When you give the kid no support or protection they’re going to struggle mightily. I don’t care how good of a QB you are if you don’t have weapons who can actually catch big plays, no oline, and bad cia bing you’re going to fail i kind of agree, but it may be time to put that one on JD....clearly the guys that ARE here arent getting it done. Mims - draft pick, cant get on the field Crowder - basically disenfranchised by this org, who even knows how hurt he is Davis - not great so far Moore - way overhyped and underperforming and finally....we really really could have used a TE and a LG in the offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 51 minutes ago, David Harris said: Sit Cory Davis and start Mims Even better start them both. Yeah, the Davis drop was infuriating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 59 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: Perhaps there should have been an adult in the room from the start? Not Lafleur Not a veteran backup Rookie QB UH, he was killed in a tragic accident. Like, a few weeks ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I feel like this is just a cliche in Wilson’s case. He’s a skinny kid who played a poofy schedule at BYU and had one good statistical season. He was drafted for his potential, now for what he could give you now. At the least, they should have made him beat someone out for the job. It won’t be too long now until the rest of the team starts turning on Wilson and Saleh simply due to the appearance that the kid was gifted the job when he clearly wasn’t ready for it. Maybe, although it sounds like no one is pointing fingers (other than Greg Van Roten, who just seems like an a**hole generally). I’d love to get Saleh and Douglas hooked up to a polygraph and ask them what their honest expectations for this season were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Jet_Engine1 said: UH, he was killed in a tragic accident. Like, a few weeks ago. You're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, dbatesman said: Maybe, although it sounds like no one is pointing fingers (other than Greg Van Roten, who just seems like an a$$hole generally). I’d love to get Saleh and Douglas hooked up to a polygraph and ask them what their honest expectations for this season were. I mean, I’m pretty sure they expected to take some lumps with a young team and hopefully position themselves well moving forward after watch young talent grow. Just…these lumps are massive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 After only three games, the Jets are already well on their way to ruining another quarterback. Zach Wilson shouldn't have started the season. The logical move was to start a veteran on a young team, with a rookie HC and rookie OC. Ease the rookie from BYU into the NFL. It really isn't rocket science. The regression is clear and present, and the Jets have no one to blame but themselves. Again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Albaniajet said: I remember the Jets losing 42-7 in Denver week 1. Webb Slaughter caught the only td 1976. you got a good memory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 24 minutes ago, Sammybighead said: I can't tell who the sh*t show is on anymore Really? Its on us. The sh*tshow is literally on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origen Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 No matter how sh*tty this was it's STILL only game 3 and plenty of sh*tshow teams have gotten better over the season. I never expected playoffs, so losses aren't shocking, pissed at the incompetence, but just gotta hope these guys are working to get better. We'll see where we are by week 4. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcronin Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Snell41 said: Wilson was a terribly overrated prospect and is now showing exactly what he is. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Several scouts agreed with you. I agree with you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, doitny said: 1976. you got a good memory Wasn’t that ‘96? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dcronin said: Several scouts agreed with you. I agree with you. One year wonder who made highlight reel plays facing community college programs. Only ranked defense he played he looked mediocre How could JD be this stupid? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Wrong. Not wrong. Wilson had one good year in college. One. Prior to this past season he sucked at BYU. Hes never seen anything even remotely close to NFL talent or NFL scheming in his life and we walked him into a NY market, handed him the keys and talked about him like his greatness is a given. In terms of QB candidates he falls in the likes of Trubisky. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, KO91 said: This isn’t on the OL, WR, or OC. It’s on Zach Wilson. He’s watching the pass rush instead of keeping his eyes downfield and getting the ball where it needs to go. He’s playing like Christian Hackenberg. The kid is a special kind of awful right now. He can’t even accurate throw a check down to the back. If this keeps up the Jets may have to move on after one season. Rook playing like a rook...not so bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Albaniajet said: One year wonder who made highlight reel plays facing community college programs. Only ranked defense he played he looked mediocre How could JD be this stupid? Stop with this nonsense. It really is nonsense and makes you and anyone else that repeats it sound ridiculous and entirely unserious. Zach has NOT been good - but neither has Fields or Lawrence......Do you think either of them, or Jones for that matter, would be performing any better under these circumstances? Fields has been worse and you can certainly argue that Lawrence has been as well. Jones was asked, for the first time, to help the team win today and he failed misterably. Zach might suck (in fact I think he does) but who he played in college is not the reason for it. Zach was a legitimate prospect. Who he played in college is just silly at this point. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Well. If his mechanics are a mess after 3 games, then the concern of some was justified. That is ,the concern about his level of competition and how he would react to adversity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Enough of this dysfunction. We need a full rebuild. SAR I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Pichula said: Yea Corey Davis dropping a 30 yard pass on third down is on Zach Wilson Carter Dropping a would be 25 yard third down conversion is on Zach Wilson Ty Johnson dropping a 4th and 2 is on Zach Wilson Allowing free rushers down the middle of the “protection” is on Zach Wilson His OC calling 5 wide empty on 4th and 1 is on Zach Wilson You forgot one. The HC and OC continuing to bench a healthy Mims is on Zach Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Stop with this nonsense. It really is nonsense and makes you and anyone else that repeats it sound ridiculous and entirely unserious. Zach has NOT been good - but neither has Fields or Lawrence......Do you think either of them, or Jones for that matter, would be performing any better under these circumstances? Fields has been worse and you can certainly argue that Lawrence has been as well. Jones was asked, for the first time, to help the team win today and he failed misterably. Zach might suck (in fact I think he does) but who he played in college is not the reason for it. Zach was a legitimate prospect. Who he played in college is just silly at this point. How is it silly? Before the draft people were gushing about Wilson being Mahomes 2.0 meanwhile he had never played well facing real competition in college 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Albaniajet said: How is it silly? Before the draft people were gushing about Wilson being Mahomes 2.0 meanwhile he had never played well facing real competition in college Because the guys from that draft that did play great competition suck too. I could just imagine Fields being asked to start for this roster or Lawrence. What would be your reasoning for them sucking? The Jets are awful, the rookie QB play hasn't been good. But the "I told you so" because of his competition in college is pure non-sense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, FidelioJet said: Because the guys from that draft that did play great competition suck too. I could just imagine Fields being asked to start for this roster or Lawrence. What would be your reasoning for them sucking? The Jets are awful, the rookie QB play hasn't been good. But the "I told you so" because of his competition in college is pure non-sense. I agree, horrible draft class at the qb position I’m just trying to figure out how the people who know everything were so wildly wrong about Wilson. One good year in college. Competition was nothing. Small. How was this guy ever even a first round pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Albaniajet said: Troll level 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Albaniajet said: I agree, horrible draft class at the qb position I’m just trying to figure out how the people who know everything were so wildly wrong about Wilson. One good year in college. Competition was nothing. Small. How was this guy ever even a first round pick? It's been three games and you're doing a retrospective. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Just now, Gastineau Lives said: It's been three games and you're doing a retrospective. Is it a retrospective if people who actually watched these guys in college knew they’d suck in the NFL? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Smashmouth said: He does not trust his OL and not one player on this offense has made a play yet in 3 games. When I say make a play I mean catch a god damn pass to extend a drive or maybe break a tackle and run for 20 I mean dammit do something. Umm not true. One pass, one 40 yard gain. Never sees another pass or active for another game..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Just now, Albaniajet said: Is it a retrospective if people who actually watched these guys in college knew they’d suck in the NFL? Which part didn't you understand? Three games or retrospective? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 40 minutes ago, SpartanJet said: People can't actually believe its all on Zach can they? I mean you have eyes right? You see how awful every part of the Jets are right? Plenty of blame to go around from the owner on down. I don't think its all his fault, but he's certainly not making me rethink any of the suspicions I had about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: It's been three games and you're doing a retrospective. Reason goes out the window when people get this reactionary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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