kmnj Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 I was in the keep Sam group and stated Joe should trade the pick and give Sam weapons . I thought it was dumb getting rid of him when he had no coach and no weapons However, Wilson is our guy now and Joe ( who is the Jets real problem) is setting Wilson up to fail exactly like he did to Sam i posted before week one out rbs are trash , our line is trash , we have no tight ends . I thought at WR we would be decent but had no idea we would be using berrios as our top dog It is sad once again the fans knew better Joe should sit Wilson like I said after game one - but Joe didn’t even sign a back up I just hope we don’t ruin Wilson as we can’t be drafting a qb every 2-3 years FU Joe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Everyone involved gets blame. ZW looks terrible in every aspect as a starting NFL QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Everyone involved gets blame. ZW looks terrible in every aspect as a starting NFL QB. Yes he does but he is three games in and is a rookie. I won’t pass judgement on him yet but I was done with Joe last year and just like Sam Joe gave him Wilson no line no rbs and no tight ends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 Wilson should be sitting this year as I said three weeks ago 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjets1969 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 We should have stuck with Sam and built around him. This kid was overhyped he almost lost his job first year probably would have not gotten it back if Hall didn't get hurt then played an easy schedule during Covid up until Jan wasn't considered even a 3rd round pick but this team was stupid to listen to the fan base give up on Darnold who was considered the best QB in that draft who had no team no line no weapons around him and was drafted at 20 years old now he is 3-0 and Jets fans are ready to run wilson out of town said this before they drafted wilson it was a mistake but you have to give him 2 years see what happens to late now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 43 minutes ago, kmnj said: I was in the keep Sam group and stated Joe should trade the pick and give Sam weapons . I thought it was dumb getting rid of him when he had no coach and no weapons However, Wilson is our guy now and Joe ( who is the Jets real problem) is setting Wilson up to fail exactly like he did to Sam i posted before week one out rbs are trash , our line is trash , we have no tight ends . I thought at WR we would be decent but had no idea we would be using berrios as our top dog It is sad once again the fans knew better Joe should sit Wilson like I said after game one - but Joe didn’t even sign a back up I just hope we don’t ruin Wilson as we can’t be drafting a qb every 2-3 years FU Joe No. Zach is done. He needs to be sat and start White. Then trade Zach for some Gatorade after we fire all the coaches. BTW, I am a QB guru and after 3 games, I just know. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 The situation is as bad as it gets but we are stuck with it for this year. Maybe JD will realize he can't keep shopping at the discount rack for players and he needs to get some top end talent on the team. We can't win this way. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DJF71 Posted September 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2021 Building through the draft only works if you can draft. JD can't. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 I dont blame Z Wilson at all yet ... kid is so young he is oblivious to the wrongs being done to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Everyone involved gets blame. ZW looks terrible in every aspect as a starting NFL QB. Not really ... he looked like a rook today. Last week .. that is a diff story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blue Print Posted September 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2021 Zach has been given an average of 1.7 seconds to throw the ball before the pocket collapses. The NFL average is 2.5 seconds. I don’t know how any receiver gets separation in that amount of time. I don’t know how any QB identifies who will do it either. The problem isn’t Zach and it wasn’t Sam. The problem is that there is no time for routes to develop enough to know who will be open regardless of who the QB is. Saying he needs to get rid of the ball faster is fine but incomplete. oh, and I can drop passes for a whole lot less money than our receivers. Hire me. I’ll do as well and create a lot more salary cap room. Wasn’t it Stengel who asked “doesn’t anyone know how to play this game?” I know: it’s rhetorical. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 18 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: The situation is as bad as it gets but we are stuck with it for this year. Maybe JD will realize he can't keep shopping at the discount rack for players and he needs to get some top end talent on the team. We can't win this way. 3 teams in the division started new rebuilds and drafted high 1st round QB in the last 4 years. 1 paid for the best center on the market for their rookie QB and signed several other free agent lineman 1 year after drafting a 2nd round left tackle. 1 team traded away an all-pro left tackle. Invested several picks in the 1st 3 rounds after drafting the QB. Bargain shopped for vets and relied on these picks developing in their rookie / 2nd years. 1 team drafted an injured fat tub of lard in the 1st round and shopped from the dollar store for offensive lineman. One of these things is not like the other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longsuffering88 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, kmnj said: Wilson should be sitting this year as I said three weeks ago Yep at minimum vet QB backup and give him a “fake injury” for 3 weeks dear lord we are incredibly incompetent fat Joe and Salad… not good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 I'm gonna be consistent and not trash Wilson just like I didn't trash Darnold because the problems are exactly the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Nobody with a brain blames Wilson compare game 1 to game 3 COACHING 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Football is a TEAM sport everyone is making mistakes and shares a portion of the blame. No excuses in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Use Parcells model and build the team from the middle first. His first signing was Mawae for a reason, you need a good center. It starts at center and builds out. Everyone can bitch and complain about Wilson, but the real issue is on the line. Period. Douglas is failing his team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 13 hours ago, Blue Print said: Zach has been given an average of 1.7 seconds to throw the ball before the pocket collapses. The NFL average is 2.5 seconds. I don’t know how any receiver gets separation in that amount of time. I don’t know how any QB identifies who will do it either. The problem isn’t Zach and it wasn’t Sam. The problem is that there is no time for routes to develop enough to know who will be open regardless of who the QB is. Saying he needs to get rid of the ball faster is fine but incomplete. oh, and I can drop passes for a whole lot less money than our receivers. Hire me. I’ll do as well and create a lot more salary cap room. Wasn’t it Stengel who asked “doesn’t anyone know how to play this game?” I know: it’s rhetorical. Well said. But you know what the problem is, you have a-holes like GVR stink up the field and then have the audacity to put the whole issue on Wilson. Listen to his post game presser, he states that Wilson is in the NFL and the ball has to come out quicker. Well GVR, maybe stop sucking ass and give your QB more than 1.7 seconds: https://twitter.com/snyjets/status/1442276372253130752?s=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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