Popular Post bla bla bla Posted October 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2021 Couple of Notes Alijah Vera-Tucker - Great pass blocking day (82.6) - 12th in the NFL among all OL - 8th Among all G - 2nd Among all Rookie OL (Trey Smith) Quincy Williams/CJ Mosley - This is where the eye test needs to come into play. Bad grading does not reflect the impact these guys had on the field John Franklin-Meyers - In line for a nice pay day after the season - 1 Sack - 9 Pressures - 2 Hits - 6 Hurries - 2 Tackles - 1 Assist Bryce Hall - 5th Round gem - 1 Sack - Targeted 8 Times, gave up 3 Rec for 27 Yards - 2 Pass Breakups 3 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Ratings of Mosley and Quincy Williams don't pass the eyeball test. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 They are a statistic like others but not sure how Quincy could rate so low. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetscanes331 Posted October 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2021 Real nice to see some of the young guys grading out nicely. Sherwood is an example. As always with PFF I agree with the good rankings and the bad ones are way off. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 People put way too much stock into PFF grades. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Quincy makes big plays but also is responsible for some of the big plays the Titans offense hit on us. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lith Posted October 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2021 100 defensive snaps each for Mosley and Hall. I know the game went to OT, but wow, that is almost two games worth of snaps for those guys. I guess that is what happens against Derrick Henry; and when we get a couple of chunk plays for some quick scoring drives (which is something we have not seen much of for a few seasons). 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: Ratings of Mosley and Quincy Williams don't pass the eyeball test. I think they both got dinged on the grades cause of those screens they gave up. Those killed us all game 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Irish Jet Posted October 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2021 My biggest takeaway from all of this is that Ashtyn Davis actually played yesterday. 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: People put way too much stock into PFF grades. PFF grades are a starting point for a bigger picture like BMI is for health. You can have a BMI that is within range and be unhealthy, or have a BMI out of range and be a brick sh*thouse. PFF grades plus statistics, and the eyeball test is the only true way to determine how good a player is. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisaynon Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: I think they both got dinged on the grades cause of those screens they gave up. Those killed us all game The SNY post game crew seems to collectively blame the DEs for that not helping with the chips 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: My biggest takeaway from all of this is that Ashtyn Davis actually played yesterday. I missed that, but I also missed the Zach Wilson TD pass to Corey Davis because I was taking a dump. I was watching the game on a stream while I was on the toilet, and I turned it off as I walked back to the TV, only to see the TD celebration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetscanes331 Posted October 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2021 Just now, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: I missed that, but I also missed the Zach Wilson TD pass to Corey Davis because I was taking a dump. I was watching the game on a stream while I was on the toilet, and I turned it off as I walked back to the TV, only to see the TD celebration. You're exiled to the bathroom next Sunday at 930. We'll send someone to check on you. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 The OL grades line up with what we saw. Decent pass protection off the edge for Wilson, but Van Roten/McGovern still not clicking. Running behind Fant is a big downgrade vs. Becton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetscanes331 Posted October 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2021 Zach Wilson's run block grade is abysmal. We need to trade this loser. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted October 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, jetscanes331 said: You're exiled to the bathroom next Sunday at 930. We'll send someone to check on you. I'm not superstitious, but I'll take a 3 hour sh*t if it means that the Jets will win. 1 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: My biggest takeaway from all of this is that Ashtyn Davis actually played yesterday. and Mims got 10 snap too..lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 how the hell did Tevin Coleman get a 89 passing grade..... not blocking... did he even catch a pass? did he run all the right routes.... i dont get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Davis played ok, nothing really went his way. He was more of a FS than a SS. Quincy was responsible for the 3 down-21 screen pass. He got burnt twice yesterday on screens. Mosely has a problem getting off from a blocker. This team needs a bona-fide edge and a LB. Maybe they found one in Quincy, or Davis could be that guy when he comes back. But they are two players away from being a legitimate top 10 defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I thought Bryce HUFF had a very good game too. Nathan Shepard not as much Van Roten seemed to be lost on the twists the interior DL seemed a little inconsistent on inside runs I was surprised Henry had all those yards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 minute ago, phill1c said: I thought Bryce HUFF had a very good game too. Nathan Shepard not as much Van Roten seemed to be lost on the twists the interior DL seemed a little inconsistent on inside runs I was surprised Henry had all those yards. That's exactly my thinking as well. I know the stats tell a different story but the flow of the game felt like the Jets did a good job containing Henry for the most part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 25 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: I think they both got dinged on the grades cause of those screens they gave up. Those killed us all game It was literally the same play several times. And the Jets were out of position every single time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 34 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: Couple of Notes Alijah Vera-Tucker - Great pass blocking day (82.6) - 12th in the NFL among all OL - 8th Among all G - 2nd Among all Rookie OL (Trey Smith) Quincy Williams/CJ Mosley - This is where the eye test needs to come into play. Bad grading does not reflect the impact these guys had on the field John Franklin-Meyers - In line for a nice pay day after the season - 1 Sack - 9 Pressures - 2 Hits - 6 Hurries - 2 Tackles - 1 Assist Bryce Hall - 5th Round gem - 1 Sack - Targeted 8 Times, gave up 3 Rec for 27 Yards - 2 Pass Breakups Were there really 100 snaps on Defense.... and Bryce Hall, CJ Mosley played all of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Were there really 100 snaps on Defense.... and Bryce Hall, CJ Mosley played all of them? True props to that defense: holding the fort until the offense got its stuff together. Bending but not breaking at the end, after 90-plus snaps. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 29 minutes ago, jetscanes331 said: Zach Wilson's run block grade is abysmal. We need to trade this loser. He had the A gap dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 55 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: My biggest takeaway from all of this is that Ashtyn Davis actually played yesterday. My biggest takeaway was we could have had trey Smith as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 4 hours ago, johnnysd said: They are a statistic like others but not sure how Quincy could rate so low. Well against the Titans, Jets severely lost TOP, yards, 1st downs, etc. but the only eye test stat that matters is the final score 27-24 Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rldev Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 6 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: I think they both got dinged on the grades cause of those screens they gave up. Those killed us all game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rldev Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, rldev said: Two of the big screens featured blatant holds and blocks in the back, none of which were called. The Jets defense were in position to make the play. They were literally right there and got blocked from behind and knocked down. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 6 hours ago, jetscanes331 said: You're exiled to the bathroom next Sunday at 930. We'll send someone to check on you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rox Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 6 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: I'm not superstitious, but I'll take a 3 hour sh*t if it means that the Jets will win. They're going to win. By 13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 This somewhat aligns with what I saw. People that looked good eyetest wise on splash plays were less impressive than the ones that didn't make the stat sheet. Kids like Guidry and Hall had great games (and in general i'm super impressed with our young secondary). PFF loves Fatu.. He's like our highest graded player in almost every game going back several years now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 8 hours ago, Bruce Harper said: Ratings of Mosley and Quincy Williams don't pass the eyeball test. Huff not playing the screens killed the lb grade 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Hael said: This somewhat aligns with what I saw. People that looked good eyetest wise on splash plays were less impressive than the ones that didn't make the stat sheet. Kids like Guidry and Hall had great games (and in general i'm super impressed with our young secondary). PFF loves Fatu.. He's like our highest graded player in almost every game going back several years now. Foley is comfortably the most consistent player on the team. He’s not a Vita Vea elite level talent but he’s damn good at what he does. Just a nightmare for teams to deal with. I’ve made a point of watching him more this year and he just wins so consistently, he’s very explosive off the snap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: Foley is comfortably the most consistent player on the team. He’s not a Vita Vea elite level talent but he’s damn good at what he does. Just a nightmare for teams to deal with. I’ve made a point of watching him more this year and he just wins so consistently, he’s very explosive off the snap. Fatukasi’s snap timing is second to none… in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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