playtowinthegame Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, kevinc855 said: Becton can become a trade chip because we alll know the guy ain’t staying healthy Just think JD's free agents he brought in could make the Jets 1st and 2nd round picks from the 2020 draft trade chips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Albaniajet Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: Just think JD's free agents he brought in could make the Jets 1st and 2nd round picks from the 2020 draft trade chips. Becton is an immensely talented player. We can get value back for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 17 minutes ago, Albaniajet said: We need to trade Becton for a 1st Not getting a first unless he comes back and plays at least half the season. I’m also not convinced Joe Douglas would pick a better player with the pick. The devil you know and all. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecuadorian Jet Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Origen said: Fant is playing well and the line is doing better because this is how the group played through most of preseason, just with Feeney at LG instead of AVT. Once Becton and AVT got in for game 1 it was basically a brand new line thrown to the wolves, especially with a rookie and 2nd year guy coming off injury. It's not like they were old pro's that can just hop in and know what's what, somewhat of a hubristic move by the coaches. So after AVT gets blown up, Fant gets embarrassed on the Right, and Becton looks Meh and gets hurt on the Left... switcheroo to the group that is used to working together throughout camp... suddenly they start getting better- Fant/AVT/CMG/GVR/Moses have started getting the Fatty Dance down. Now, once Becton is ready I feel he needs to earn his spot and if that starts with him on the right side, cool. Prove you belong on the Left side. No way you trade him and moving him inside is not an option. If Becton can't stay healthy, none of this matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, GangGreened said: Should have taken Wirfs 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Wang Doodle Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 I don't think the line has gotten better simply by virtue of Becton being out. These guys weren't together at all before the first game of the season, so it does make sense (in theory, reality is always different) that they would progress and gel once they played together for a while 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Not getting a first unless he comes back and plays at least half the season. I’m also not convinced Joe Douglas would pick a better player with the pick. The devil you know and all. lmao. The Jets would easily get a first+ for Becton, of course, JD isn't foolish enough to trade him. Man you're so sour sometimes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Not getting a first unless he comes back and plays at least half the season. I’m also not convinced Joe Douglas would pick a better player with the pick. The devil you know and all. Becton is one of the most talented OL in the league. Other GMs are aware of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: lmao. The Jets would easily get a first for Becton, of course, JD isn't foolish enough to trade him. Man you're so sour sometimes. Like right now? All hurt and shit after he had his lunch money stole all summer by Carl Larsen? I just think he would have to come and play a bit before anyone would give up a first. Prove his not baby shot soft. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: Like right now? All hurt and sh*t after he had his lunch money stole all summer by Carl Larsen? I just think he would have to come and play a bit before anyone would give up a first. Prove his not baby shot soft. injury this season had nothing to do w/being soft. Would have happened to any player in the league. Yes - GM's across the league would line up to give a 1st for Becton today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Albaniajet said: Becton is one of the most talented OL in the league. Other GMs are aware of this They do? You sure? I saw a guy get owned all summer in practice, underperform then get hurt and go on IR. Best ability is availability, without that you ain’t got shit, unless baby poop soft type counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Just now, The Crusher said: They do? You sure? I saw a guy get owned all summer in practice, underperform then get hurt and go on IR. Best ability is availability, without that you ain’t got sh*t, unless baby poop soft type counts. Becton has all pro potential. Any GM that gets him for a 2nd is committing a robbery 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: injury this season had nothing to do w/being soft. Would have happened to any player in the league. Yes - GM's across the league would line up to give a 1st for Becton today. Yeah but it happen to him so let’s stay here and not talk about things that could happen to anyone but what actually happen to him. He underperformed all camp, still can’t handle speed rusher got rolled up on and went on IR. If that makes him worth a first then sign me up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 He’s a good player. GVR seems to be the primary culprit of the Jets OL issues, everybody else seems fine. McGovern could be better 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Just now, Albaniajet said: Becton has all pro potential. Any GM that gets him for a 2nd is committing a robbery Let him play 6 games in a row and see what’s actually there before we talk about his potential. He’s on IR and showed like shit since camp. Sure he has potential, but him reaching it? Nothing suggest that so far. But go ahead, do you. Baker looks pretty good no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Just now, The Crusher said: Yeah but it happen to him so let’s stay here and not talk about things that could happen to anyone but what actually happen to him. He underperformed all camp, still can’t handle speed rusher got rolled up on and went on IR. If that makes him worth a first then sign me up! fwiw, I am not saying you're wrong about him being soft. You may be right - the time he missed last year might have been for that reason, I'm not sold on it yet. It's just - what happened this year takes out anyone. He'd easily get us a 1+ but we're better off w/Becton imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: fwiw, I am not saying you're wrong about him being soft. You may be right - the time he missed last year might have been for that reason, I'm not sold on it yet. It's just - what happened this year takes out anyone. He'd easily get us a 1+ but we're better off w/Becton imo. I just like those young highly drafted lineman that stay in the field and play. Maybe Becton can be that one day, just isn’t now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Let him play 6 games in a row and see what’s actually there before we talk about his potential. He’s on IR and showed like sh*t since camp. Sure he has potential, but him reaching it? Nothing suggest that so far. But go ahead, do you. Baker looks pretty good no? Becton was the second best Rookie LT last season. He played 14 games as a rookie. He’s worth a first round pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Copernicus said: This has crossed my mind as well. Any insight if he can? he has never played guard in his life...........so HUGE learning curve and will likely look worse than Van roten. On the other hand his Lt play is suffering because he is being beat by faster smaller players and his foot speed is sloow...maybe a move to guard will compensate for his slow feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Copernicus said: Underrated signing by Douglas. I believe his first and at the time a head scratcher. Not so much now. I liked it at the time. The guy can play. Becton wasn’t the OT I wanted, but I hope he recovers well. Fant and AVT on the left side, Becton and Moses on the right - see if either can be an upgrade at RG. GVR on the bench. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Irish Jet said: Tristan Wirfs though. My f*cking god what a miss that was. 2 hours ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Wirfs is VERY good but a LT he is not. I think it basically came down to that. Yes, but at the time we had Fant and when we signed it him it was under the premise he’d play LT. Wirfs was the practical pick. Becton was the “fascinated by his size” pick. Anyway, Becton just needs to get his sh*t together and stay on the field, and all is well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Yes, but at the time we had Fant and when we signed it him it was under the premise he’d play LT. Wirfs was the practical pick. Becton was the “fascinated by his size” pick. Anyway, Becton just needs to get his sh*t together and stay on the field, and all is well. all is well if he also stops sucking balls at pass blocking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Albaniajet said: Becton was the second best Rookie LT last season. He played 14 games as a rookie. He’s worth a first round pick How many games did he play from start to finish? Edited October 6, 2021 by AFJF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 7 hours ago, More Cowbell said: Makes no sense. Why was Zack running for his life for 3 games Because theres ALWAYS at least 2 guys coming up the middle chasing him who arent being blocked by Fant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 No GM in their right mind would trade a blue chip OT for another 1st round roll of the dice. Too important of a position. Too much success already and too much potential. Even if his future is at interior line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, Vader said: No GM in their right mind would trade a blue chip OT for another 1st round roll of the dice. Too important of a position. Too much success already and too much potential. Even if his future is at interior line. Dont guards pull? The only thing Becton pulls is meat off a stack of ribs. They not moving him to guard. When he first started everybody was ga ga goo goo with him. Now they want to exile him, trade him or something because he dealt with a few injuries. Damn, 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 11 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Fant is perfect for this system. if he keeps it up, it would be foolish to put becton back at left tackle. You dont mess with a line that is playing well. 100% correct. Becton can take over Fant's floating status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 8 hours ago, neckdemon said: all is well if he also stops sucking balls at pass blocking Oh, just that. Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 12 hours ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Depth. that’s what Fant is. Becton is this team’s LT. Why not throw out the idea of playing becton at Center while we’re at it? I thought that was what Denzel Mims was currently working on learning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 13 hours ago, The Crusher said: Let him play 6 games in a row and see what’s actually there before we talk about his potential. He’s on IR and showed like sh*t since camp. Sure he has potential, but him reaching it? Nothing suggest that so far. But go ahead, do you. Baker looks pretty good no? Crusher needs to BAN himself for this silliness! Crusher, make Crusher sit in a corner for a day or two and let Crusher talk to Crusher about this stuff. Then, let Crusher let Crusher back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: Crusher needs to BAN himself for this silliness! Crusher, make Crusher sit in a corner for a day or two and let Crusher talk to Crusher about this stuff. Then, let Crusher let Crusher back in. I'm not sure silliness is a bannable offense. Let me check with the other mods and Ill take the best course of action in this manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 14 hours ago, Irish Jet said: Tristan Wirfs though. My f*cking god what a miss that was. could be worse... could have taken Tua over Herbert... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 I'd give up a first for Becton and I ain't even a GM. Take your pick...first born, first car, first g/f....! Not sure what I'd do with him but DANG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 36 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I'm not sure silliness is a bannable offense. Let me check with the other mods and Ill take the best course of action in this manner. I'm in your head now. You even changed your avatar to I'm silly. It is pointless Crusher; 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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