Patriots Releasing Stephon Gilmore(Traded to Panthers)

[Barry McCockinner]

 

My first reaction is obviously "sign this beast" but I have to think there's more to this for the Pats to just release him. Something is going on. Maybe he just wants to go play with Brady in Tampa.

 

[frankiepapa]

Agreed... has to be more than just a cap issue.. I'm sure he'll wind up in Tampa or kc..

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[heymangold]

i don't care.  sign him.

[jbt]

he will be on the Bucs or Chiefs or Bills shortly

 

[IndianaJet]

The “more” is the fact that he wants lots more money.  
 

I don’t see the Jets moving on this.  They’re not a $20 million CB away from competing. 

[FlightBoyz]

No chance he signs here

[playtowinthegame]

SHOW HIM THE MONEY JD!!!!

[doitny]

CB is the one position i am very happy with right now. 

let the kids play!

[Coffee Is Great]

I can't wait for half the board to criticize JD for not being able to sign Gilmore. He's 31 years old, he's going to sign with a contender.

[playtowinthegame]

[Claymation]

1 minute ago, Coffee Is Great said:

I can't wait for half the board to criticize JD for not being able to sign Gilmore. He's 31 years old, he's going to sign with a contender.

This is spot on, and coffee is great.

[Jet Nut]

5 minutes ago, Coffee Is Great said:

I can't wait for half the board to criticize JD for not being able to sign Gilmore. He's 31 years old, he's going to sign with a contender.

And our D is playing well.

We're trying to develop a team, a secondary of young kids.  Taking snaps away from those kids isnt the plan.  Its the opposite to that plan

[RoadFan]

16 minutes ago, jbt said:

he will be on the Bucs or Chiefs or Bills shortly

 

Bucs secondary is beat up.  Bucs by the end of the week…

[More Cowbell]

26 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

 

My first reaction is obviously "sign this beast" but I have to think there's more to this for the Pats to just release him. Something is going on. Maybe he just wants to go play with Brady in Tampa.

 

They couldn't  agree on a contract. It isn't  so eyebrow raising. The Pats are rebuilding for the next 2 or 3 seasons. 

[bostonmajet]

Can we all agree that whether or not JD signs him it is a mistake and we should fire JD?

Looks like more Pats are bailing - rats off of a sinking ship ... 

Unfortunately, that secondary is playing pretty well even without him. Surprised he is being let go; the defense is the one positive on that team and adding a healthy Gilmore would make them better. 

[playtowinthegame]

Just now, More Cowbell said:

They couldn't  agree on a contract. It isn't  so eyebrow raising. The Pats are rebuilding for the next 2 or 3 seasons. 

The Pats spent a lot during in the free agent frenzy period last March. Is that what rebuilding teams do?

[Jet Nut]

7 minutes ago, RoadFan said:

Bucs secondary is beat up.  Bucs by the end of the week…

Hes the perfect remedy for having to put Sherman out on the field 

[ElBarrioJets]

Jets actually started the "no vets at CB" trend lol

[More Cowbell]

It would be a departure  from how JD has managed  the personnel  and cap if he was to sign Gilmore. If he was in his mid 20's, I would think he would kick the tires on this but I don't  see him paying top CB money for a guy this old. I think the pass rush also might be good enough that we won't  need top tier DB's.

[kevinc855]

[More Cowbell]

4 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

The Pats spent a lot during in the free agent frenzy period last March. Is that what rebuilding teams do?

If you are the Jets, no. We have a GM that believes  in building through the draft.  If you are the Pats and the GM is BB who believes he can coach these players to get a lot out of them, then yes.

[mrcoops]

Jets young CBs are playing well.

Gilmore is a great CB, but getting up in years, will want a gazillion dollars and to play for a contender.

We're not signing him.

[FidelioJet]

Can he play Guard?

[ScarletKnight89]

I'm sure he's headed to Tampa. 

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

No thanks. I don't want to downgrade our CBs while increasing our payroll. 

[playtowinthegame]

Just now, More Cowbell said:

If you are the Jets, no. We have a GM that believes  in building through the draft.  If you are the Pats and the GM is BB who believes he can coach these players to get a lot out of them, then yes.

Yet a couple of JD's free agent signings, George Fant and Corey Davis, are making the first two picks of the Jets 2020 draft irrelevant. Remember when the Jets were being mentioned as a landing spot for Richard Sherman? I never was on board with that. Getting Gilmore and you don't have to give anything up for him makes it enticing for  even JD. Culture changes with great players, not great slogans.

[Jet Blast]

14 hours ago, IndianaJet said:

The “more” is the fact that he wants lots more money.  
 

I don’t see the Jets moving on this.  They’re not a $20 million CB away from competing. 

If they were going to spend big money, it should be to shore up the O-line.

[Jet Nut]

20 minutes ago, ElBarrioJets said:

Jets actually started the "no vets at CB" trend lol

More like they perfected it.  It’s working

[Barry McCockinner]

6 minutes ago, Jet Blast said:

If they were going to spend big money, if should be to shore up the O-line.

I mean, I get your point but it's not like someone just released a probowl center or guard so ...

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

7 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

Yet a couple of JD's free agent signings, George Fant and Corey Davis, are making the first two picks of the Jets 2020 draft irrelevant. Remember when the Jets were being mentioned as a landing spot for Richard Sherman? I never was on board with that. Getting Gilmore and you don't have to give anything up for him makes it enticing for  even JD. Culture changes with great players, not great slogans.

George Fant doing a decent job at filling in for Becton is not making Becton irrelevant. Corey Davis isn't making Mims irrelevant. Mims not picking up the system is making Mims irrelevant. Building through the draft doesn't mean you don't also sign free agents, and it also doesn't mean that you ONLY play your drafted players. 

[playtowinthegame]

What's the current waiver wire order? Is it based on the teams records right now?

[Untouchable]

1 minute ago, playtowinthegame said:

What's the current waiver wire order? Is it based on the teams records right now?

Gilmore isn’t subject to waivers

[playtowinthegame]

Just now, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

George Fant doing a decent job at filling in for Becton is not making Becton irrelevant. 

Yes he is. Why? The best ability is availability. Becton will never last a full season unless he drastically changes his body. 

[mrcoops]

2 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

What's the current waiver wire order? Is it based on the teams records right now?

It is, yes.

Doesn't matter in Gilmore's case though - he's a vested veteran, so doesn't have to pass through waivers.

[playtowinthegame]

Just now, mrcoops said:

It is, yes.

Doesn't matter in Gilmore's case though - he's a vested veteran, so doesn't have to pass through waivers.

I forgot about that.