maury77 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I'd also let Severino walk and sign Rondon instead. I'm skeptical about Nestor being able to replicate this year's success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 40 minutes ago, maury77 said: I'd also let Severino walk and sign Rondon instead. I'm skeptical about Nestor being able to replicate this year's success. They need to pray Judge wants to come back.....people are just assuming he wants to play and live in NY and I've gotten vibes recently that he doesn't....wouldn't be shocked if he bolts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 13 hours ago, undertow said: They need to pray Judge wants to come back.....people are just assuming he wants to play and live in NY and I've gotten vibes recently that he doesn't....wouldn't be shocked if he bolts. Why do we want him back so bad have you watched him lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 14 hours ago, Barton said: Yankees were 15th in team batting average in 2022. 23rd in 2021. But Cashman doesnt think batting average is important. And every year we wonder why the Yankees get 4 postseason hits per game. Nick Swisher ruined Cashman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 14 hours ago, maury77 said: I'd also let Severino walk and sign Rondon instead. I'm skeptical about Nestor being able to replicate this year's success. Our starting pitching was smoke and mirrors this season Severino I would love to bring back on a 1 year deal but he’s going to want multiple years. Yankees lost game 2 but I think he made himself money in that game he lost but pitched well he just had no run support 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 13 hours ago, undertow said: They need to pray Judge wants to come back.....people are just assuming he wants to play and live in NY and I've gotten vibes recently that he doesn't....wouldn't be shocked if he bolts. I hope and pray the Mets sign judge Bonilla 3.0 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Dwight Englewood said: Our starting pitching was smoke and mirrors this season Severino I would love to bring back on a 1 year deal but he’s going to want multiple years. Yankees lost game 2 but I think he made himself money in that game he lost but pitched well he just had no run support The Yankees have him on a 15 million dollar option or they can cut him for something like 2.75 million. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 This is painful but what scares me the most is that they bring Cashman back. Ellsbury Hicks Gallo A million other reasons why. Time to move on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, JustEndTheSuffering said: Why do we want him back so bad have you watched him lately? Without Judge this year they probably win 80 games....this team stinks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, Dwight Englewood said: Nick Swisher ruined Cashman Analytics ruined Cashman.....you would think someone who was in the organization in the 90's would understand how to build a team...there's literally a blue print. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, undertow said: Without Judge this year they probably win 80 games....this team stinks. Tell me why we need to pay Judge everything after what he just did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 TOTAL FAILURE AGAIN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Cashman and Boone gotta go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 4 hours ago, undertow said: Analytics ruined Cashman.....you would think someone who was in the organization in the 90's would understand how to build a team...there's literally a blue print. Cashman never did anything to be ruined he was terrible the entire time he was here. Gene Michael was the guy who built the best team in baseball and when Cashman took over it was a slow decent . Its easy to build a playoff team with the highest pay roll or close too it every year but Cashman has no clue how to build a team that can actually win in the play offs. This team and a lot of teams these days due to analytics ruining the sport is a disgrace to the game of baseball. 2 times the Yankees were not able to manufacture a run vs the Astros with 3 + innings to do so. They Don't Bunt, they don't hit behind runners and they strike out at an alarming rate with runners on trying to hit a homerun rather than make contact. I'm getting more and more away from watching the sport at all its nothing like it used to be and it will never come back to the glory days of actually playing the game right . This Yankees team are the poster boys on how not to play baseball and Im afraid nothing will change as long as Cashman is in charge and I'm 100 % sure he's telling Boone how to run his team probably tried the same crap with Torre and was told to go **** him self. I pointed this out all year exactly what would happen beat the Indians because their pitching sucks and lose to the Astros who are a much better Built team. Actually I expected the Rays or the Bluejay's to have more of an impact and they probably will next year because the Yankees will pay Judge 45 Per and claim they have no other money to spend. Bank on That 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt39 Posted October 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 Can’t wait to do the same thing again next season! 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Here is the truly scary thing. People like Cabrera, Peraza but because they come from the farm system, young players, blah blah blah. What I see is more of the same. Guys trying to pull everything over a shift, no just getting the bat on the ball and putting in play, no bunting. To me they are nothing more than Clint Frazier, Torres, Florial, and probably Volpe down the road. These analytics, launch angles, exit velo are destroying what could have been a great farm system. Where is Devi Garcia ? Looks like another pitcher ruined, Clarke Schmidt is just another arm out of the pen down. German ? Who knows ? One other thing for Hal. Stevie Cohen across the river is a guy who wants to win no matter the cost. I expect the Muts will spend another 300-4- 500 millons this off season. (It won't get them anywhere because they are the Mets) but where do you think the casual fan is going to go and watch baseball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 23 hours ago, maury77 said: I agree, but I don't know how they are going to fix it. Assuming they role with Bader and the current catchers next year due to their strong defense, what other lineup spots can you upgrade? You can move Peraza to short, but if you shift IKF to third, what do you do with Donaldson? Stanton is unmovable. I suppose you can resign Benintendi to play left. At 2nd, I'd try to package Torres to upgrade another position. Play Dj at 2nd until Volpe is ready. I'm not particularly happy about bringing back Rizzo and his horrendous batting average. Pretty much that. Donaldson is there for a year, or you can move him and pick up half his salary. I move Gleyber, for actual pitching, not another #4 starter type. IKF, back up at best. DJ at 2nd, and then shift to 3rd when Volpe is up. Rizzo is fine at 1st, he at least showed up for the post season, and when the shift is gone next year expect his batting average to go from 230 up to 260, 270. Stanton is a concern. Dude is always hurt, and is on the books for another 5 ish year. Again, a cautionary tale about signing players on huge long term contracts well into their late 30s. (Why i don't give Judge a 8-10 year deal) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 As usual, I think you guys are a bit harsh. You wanted them to make moves for guys that wouldn't be K or HR for the playoffs. Benintendi got hurt. The one move that was universally panned was Monte for Bader, and it likes like they were probably right in that case. The team was built to win on the bullpen and they just lost too much there to sustain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, shawn306 said: Here is the truly scary thing. People like Cabrera, Peraza but because they come from the farm system, young players, blah blah blah. What I see is more of the same. Guys trying to pull everything over a shift, no just getting the bat on the ball and putting in play, no bunting. To me they are nothing more than Clint Frazier, Torres, Florial, and probably Volpe down the road. These analytics, launch angles, exit velo are destroying what could have been a great farm system. Where is Devi Garcia ? Looks like another pitcher ruined, Clarke Schmidt is just another arm out of the pen down. German ? Who knows ? One other thing for Hal. Stevie Cohen across the river is a guy who wants to win no matter the cost. I expect the Muts will spend another 300-4- 500 millons this off season. (It won't get them anywhere because they are the Mets) but where do you think the casual fan is going to go and watch baseball. You say that like it is going to make them look bad. I think it will make them make moves. It is easy to try to move towards fiscal responsibility when the Mets are unable to spend, but when they are in the Post on every FA, then Hal will have something to compete with or make his Dad look bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: As usual, I think you guys are a bit harsh. You wanted them to make moves for guys that wouldn't be K or HR for the playoffs. Benintendi got hurt. The one move that was universally panned was Monte for Bader, and it likes like they were probably right in that case. The team was built to win on the bullpen and they just lost too much there to sustain it. They were crushed by injuries. This lineup is much different with Benitendi leading off, Judge, Rizzo, a healthy Stanton, and DJ. That being said, Cashmen is far too into analytics. He has made trades for players who can only walk or K, or hit 220. He went for Donaldson, he insisted for months that Gallo was a good player, he kept playing IKF when there was an obvious better option in AAA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 The saddest part is in the first two innings they looked like a real baseball team at the plate, putting multiple hits together, going the other way and driving in runs. They could have been that and they’re not because the numbers say that’s bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 I also think they picked some of these guys up with the changes in rules in mind. That will change some of this stuff. They were wrong on Gallo and Donaldson, but they were right on Voit and Bader. They won earlier in the year with pitching and defense. Dumping Gary and moving Torres was nice. The rotation was pretty solid and the pen was lights out, until they lost too many bodies. Most of you guys act like this team can't win. I think it can, the injuries just came at the wrong time. The thing I hate about Donaldson is his attitude. If you are going to hit like sh*t and field, okay. But why is the piece of sh*t posing everything he hits a long fly ball? More than one time it ended up not going out and he didn't run. You want to be an a$$hole? Okay, but at least play hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Cashman hired a hitting coach this past offseason whose philosphy is "hit strikes hard!!!!" You dont have to hit strikes hard to get base hits. 8 hours ago, chirorob said: They were crushed by injuries. This lineup is much different with Benitendi leading off, Judge, Rizzo, a healthy Stanton, and DJ. That being said, Cashmen is far too into analytics. He has made trades for players who can only walk or K, or hit 220. He went for Donaldson, he insisted for months that Gallo was a good player, he kept playing IKF when there was an obvious better option in AAA Bold part - yup Cashman hired a hitting coach a year who whose philosphy is "hit strikes hard!!" Just bad baseball. You dont have to swing out of your shoes to make good contact and get hits. Goose Gossage was right. Yankees are run by Cashman and his team of number crunching nerds. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 15 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: As usual, I think you guys are a bit harsh. You wanted them to make moves for guys that wouldn't be K or HR for the playoffs. Benintendi got hurt. The one move that was universally panned was Monte for Bader, and it likes like they were probably right in that case. The team was built to win on the bullpen and they just lost too much there to sustain it. Cashman is good on small moves, Bader, trading Tauchman last year. He kills that stuff. He botches big contracts, Judge, Hicks, Ellsbury etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/24/2022 at 8:51 AM, Matt39 said: Can’t wait to do the same thing again next season! You think we’re making the playoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/24/2022 at 12:13 AM, undertow said: Analytics ruined Cashman.....you would think someone who was in the organization in the 90's would understand how to build a team...there's literally a blue print. Gene Michael and Bob Watson built the 90’s Yankees dynasty. And that dynasty essentially carried Cashman all the way through the early 2010’s The people who somehow give Mangini all the credit for being the shadow GM who built Rex Ryan jets teams— well here’s a case of the actual GM and actual team president in full view building and drafting the entire core and the subsequent guy living off what they did. Oh and Michael drafted Judge too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 My two cents: 1. They will never win a championship with Aaron Boone. I was one of the most excited fans when they first hired him. Boy was I wrong. He’s a spineless waif with a disturbing lack testosterone. 2. Cashman should have been fired 5 years ago 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Teams have an energy. There is not a stat for it. The Yankees have been a flat team since Boone has taken over. He's not a leader. And he wasnt a leader when he was a player, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/25/2022 at 1:24 AM, Maxman said: Cashman is good on small moves, Bader, trading Tauchman last year. He kills that stuff. He botches big contracts, Judge, Hicks, Ellsbury etc. I like Bader but he traded a starting pitcher for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 7 hours ago, Jet9 said: I like Bader but he traded a starting pitcher for him. No they traded Jordan Montgomery jk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/29/2022 at 7:15 AM, Barton said: Teams have an energy. There is not a stat for it. The Yankees have been a flat team since Boone has taken over. He's not a leader. And he wasnt a leader when he was a player, either. Boone did his 1st season. "My guys are animals in there". Then they lost a heartbreaker to Houston, and have never recovered, and Boone has become more and more passive, probably whipped by Cashman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 21 hours ago, chirorob said: Boone did his 1st season. "My guys are animals in there". Then they lost a heartbreaker to Houston, and have never recovered, and Boone has become more and more passive, probably whipped by Cashman ehhhh I have never seen the Yankees be a confident team under Boone. Feels like a bunch of guys playing without a manager who leads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 9:59 AM, maury77 said: I'd also let Severino walk and sign Rondon instead. I'm skeptical about Nestor being able to replicate this year's success. We kept severing but we had no choice. He does have the talent to be a good, not great #2 starting pitcher Agree on Nestor. Yankees are kidding themselves if they think they can go into next season again with him at the top of the rotation. I know I’m an old fogey but I like starting pitchers who can pitch more than 4 innings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 When are the winter meetings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 9 hours ago, Maxman said: When are the winter meetings? 12/4 through 12/7. Some rumors circulating that the Yankees are looking at adding a top end starting pitcher and I fully support this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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