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17 minutes ago, 65 Toss Power Trap said:

Kept Gase?  Are you trolling?  Is this “Punk’d, Jets Nation Edition”?

Adam Gase proved one thing while he was here-  that he could motivate a broken roster.  He won 7 games with a terrible 2019 team and last year sitting at 0-13 he got 2 wins against playoff teams.  He was good with bad rosters.  The 2021 Jets are a bad roster.

Sam Darnold is nothing more than average, but in his 4th year he would have been affordable and given us a legitimate chance to compete in every game.

I am not advocating that Gase and Darnold were the right pair for a Championship team.  Lord no.  But as two stopgaps to help us compete and stay motivated and win some games so that all the first and second year guys could actually show growth?  They would have been a much better option.

We took a Hail Mary shot on a rookie rah-rah head coach and a rookie hero ball quarterback and it was premature and unnecessary.  We've set ourselves back years needlessly.

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I’m sorry it’s so obvious we have opportunities to win games with smart QB play and weapons.    Jets win the pats and this game with Darnold here. We draft Pitts he doesn’t burn us this game an

We are also 8-9 or 9-8 with Darnold and Pitts over the next decade. 

Well, this aged well. Lil Kev, always the master prognosticator. 

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45 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

and end up with 9 or 10 wins and NEVER winning a Super Bowl.

Darnold may end up being okay.  But this isn't about being a wild card team every 3 or 4 years.

Zach was alway going to be a big hit or big miss.  We simply don't know yet.

If only we were like Carolina….who will have to pay Darnold $33m a year really soon. That’ll work out well….

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8 minutes ago, TokyoJetsFan said:

I just don't think we'd be better off with him long term.  I could be wrong.  Agree to disagree with you.

I could be too. Darnold is a little flustered today. Missed some throws.

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52 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

and end up with 9 or 10 wins and NEVER winning a Super Bowl.

Darnold may end up being okay.  But this isn't about being a wild card team every 3 or 4 years.

Zach was alway going to be a big hit or big miss.  We simply don't know yet.

It doesn’t even matter which side of the argument you’re taking. This is just mind boggling reasoning on your part from start to finish.

btw the “Zach was always going to be a big hit or big miss” comment takes the post to a new level, lol. You don’t draft a 50-50 guy with the #2 pick, so stop with the safety net BS.
When you take a QB at #2 you’re thinking you have your guy for 10+ years, it’s not a coin flip selection.

 

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Darnold is missing throws today but still playing well enough to pass for 300 and get the Panthers to 4-1.  He's much better then some Jets fans give him credit for but would have continued to be a disaster here with what we have.

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3 minutes ago, TokyoJetsFan said:

The most likely outcome is we are both wrong and both Wilson and Darnold both just suck lol

Believe it or not, Wilson might be playing behind a better o-line. Panthers o-line is pathetic. 

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13 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

It doesn’t even matter which side of the argument you’re taking. This is just mind boggling reasoning on your part from start to finish.

btw the “Zach was always going to be a big hit or big miss” comment takes the post to a new level, lol. You don’t draft a 50-50 guy with the #2 pick, so stop with the safety net BS.
When you take a QB at #2 you’re thinking you have your guy for 10+ years, it’s not a coin flip selection.

 

Look. If you want to be one of these guys happy with wild card appearances one every 3 or 4 years and losing in the first or second round. So be it.  I won’t try and talk you out if it.  But I would prefer to roll the dice and find a QB that can don a super bowl. 

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1 hour ago, kevinc855 said:

I’m sorry it’s so obvious we have opportunities to win games with smart QB play and weapons. 
 

Jets win the pats and this game with Darnold here. We draft Pitts he doesn’t burn us this game and helps us in multiple games. 
 

I’M so hungry for a relevant season. Yet I have another “wait till next year one” before Halloween. 
 

Truly disappointed 

We'd still have LaFleur, so what does it matter... Until he learns how to call a game nobody will matter.

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7 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Look. If you want to be one of these guys happy with wild card appearances one every 3 or 4 years and losing in the first or second round. So be it.  I won’t try and talk you out if it.  But I would prefer to roll the dice and find a QB that can don a super bowl. 

I’m impressed with your ability to see in the future and tell us with such certainty how the next 10 years would’ve played out with Darnold and Pitts.

Thanks for sharing it all with us. My question is, why can’t you do the same with Zach?

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1 hour ago, heymangold said:

You’re the reason no one likes jets fans - the reason it’s been a constant cesspool here. You have a rookie hc and OC, a rookie qb with a not so talented team and expect them to be the chiefs over nigh.

use your brains - this was only going to be a 4-5 win team.  Got 13 weeks left to get there.

26-1 to win the East before a game was even played. 

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1 minute ago, Integrity28 said:

These hypothetical outcomes are facts.

On one hand the team is complete garbage 

on the other hand if we had Darnold (who went 2-15 with a garbage team)

and a rookie TE we would be leading the division 

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1 minute ago, Anthony Jet said:

On one hand the team is complete garbage 

on the other hand if we had Darnold (who went 2-15 with a garbage team)

and a rookie TE we would be leading the division 

Makes perfect sense, right?

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53 minutes ago, SAR I said:

Adam Gase proved one thing while he was here-  that he could motivate a broken roster.  He won 7 games with a terrible 2019 team and last year sitting at 0-13 he got 2 wins against playoff teams.  He was good with bad rosters.  The 2021 Jets are a bad roster.

We know something else too - Adam Gase could only play Vets and couldn't coach up or develop rookies; with that - he would NEVER win us anything real. Most of knew we were a 3 or 4 win team this year. Many just forgot after we won a game. We have hope this year. I had none last year.

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6 minutes ago, bostonmajet said:

We know something else too - Adam Gase could only play Vets and couldn't coach up or develop rookies; with that - he would NEVER win us anything real. Most of knew we were a 3 or 4 win team this year. Many just forgot after we won a game. We have hope this year. I had none last year.

Do we though?

What have you seen that’s given you this hope, other than we’re losing with younger guys? I’m looking at this GM, the CS, the QB and the last two drafts and I’m not seeing any reason for optimism.

All I’m seeing is the same bad football with a bunch of new faces. I know we’ll have a lot of nice picks next year, but the same gentleman who ran the last two drafts will be making them, so…

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6 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

It’s always fun when you question one of these guys. @FidelioJet has things figured out well into the future in multiple scenarios though. That’s pretty impressive.

Please don't bring me into your discussions.

Sam Darnold is not winning a Super Bowl.  That's about as close to a fact as can be.  Otherwise no other discussions of the future.  

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5 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Please don't bring me into your discussions.

Sam Darnold is not winning a Super Bowl.  That's about as close to a fact as can be.  Otherwise no other discussions of the future.  

…but having him here while we add talent to the roster would’ve been worse than what we have now? Would that have made it easier or more difficult to build a team ready to contend for a title?

Unlike you, I don’t know. I do know that we are nowhere close to one now.

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2 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Do we though?

What have you seen that’s given you this hope, other than we’re losing with younger guys? I’m looking at this GM, the CS, the QB and the last two drafts and I’m not seeing any reason for optimism.

All I’m seeing is the same bad football with a bunch of new faces. I know we’ll have a lot of nice picks next year, but the same gentleman who ran the last two drafts will be making them, so…

Same bad football I agree

but I definitely have a little more hope with this team then I’d do with prior terrible teams the Jets have fielded 

They were never supposed to be good this year based off Vegas. Posted this in a bother thread but 26-1 to win the AFC East before week 1

I know most people want pro bowlers everywhere but we have some promising young players on D 

Sach Wilson has flashed. But he also has been scary bad on the easy stuff. I don’t know what he will be, probably a bust because Jets but if we are being honest his arm talent is the best we’ve seen in These parts since Vinny T

Becton getting hurt kinda sucks. Was excited to go see the left side with him and AVT

Michael carter looks like he could be a useable piece. 

There are some positives if you look hard enough. 

All depends what your expectations are 

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2 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Do we though?

What have you seen that’s given you this hope, other than we’re losing with younger guys? I’m looking at this GM, the CS, the QB and the last two drafts and I’m not seeing any reason for optimism.

I know we’ll have a lot of nice picks next year, but the same gentleman who ran the last two drafts will be making them, so…

We're FUBAR if Joe Douglas really does suck, because you and I both know he'll be the one running the Jets upcoming free agency and drafts in the coming off-season. Jets will be one of the perennial dregs in this league for the next 5 years guaranteed. 

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18 minutes ago, bostonmajet said:

We know something else too - Adam Gase could only play Vets and couldn't coach up or develop rookies; with that - he would NEVER win us anything real. Most of knew we were a 3 or 4 win team this year. Many just forgot after we won a game. We have hope this year. I had none last year.

Really?  Sam Darnold went 6-2 after the "ghosts" game, Adam Gase coached the kid way the hell up.  And his WR's and DB's were all 3rd and 4th stringers, remember?

I'm not defending Gase and Darnold, I'm not saying they were going to win divisions and playoff games here.  I'm merely saying that we are in a rebuild and there is a right time to throw the Hail Mary on switching out the HC and the QB and we did it at the wrong time.  We should have kept those two guys for another year or two, let them keep the locker room together, let them motivate the young guys, let them keep some stability around here, let them win some games and make the youngsters feel proud.  What's going on now is a complete mess, things haven't ever been this bad and I saw every Rich Kotite game.

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2 hours ago, kevinc855 said:

I’m sorry it’s so obvious we have opportunities to win games with smart QB play and weapons. 
 

Jets win the pats and this game with Darnold here. We draft Pitts he doesn’t burn us this game and helps us in multiple games. 
 

I’M so hungry for a relevant season. Yet I have another “wait till next year one” before Halloween. 
 

Truly disappointed 

Not with this coaching staff we aren't. They are bad.

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13 minutes ago, SAR I said:

Really?  Sam Darnold went 6-2 after the "ghosts" game, Adam Gase coached the kid way the hell up.  And his WR's and DB's were all 3rd and 4th stringers, remember?

I'm not defending Gase and Darnold, I'm not saying they were going to win divisions and playoff games here.  I'm merely saying that we are in a rebuild and there is a right time to throw the Hail Mary on switching out the HC and the QB and we did it at the wrong time.  We should have kept those two guys for another year or two, let them keep the locker room together, let them motivate the young guys, let them keep some stability around here, let them win some games and make the youngsters feel proud.  What's going on now is a complete mess, things haven't ever been this bad and I saw every Rich Kotite game.

SAR I

They did that. They kept those guys around another year. It was last year. Because a bunch of people got fooled by 7-9. Apparently there are people who got fooled by 2-14 also. That's weird.

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1 minute ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said:

They did that. They kept those guys around another year. It was last year. Because a bunch of people got fooled by 7-9. Apparently there are people who got fooled by 2-14 also. That's weird.

7-9 was against an easy schedule.  2-14 was against a hard schedule.

This year is an easier schedule than the 7-9 schedule and we're headed to a 1-16 record.

There is a right time and a wrong time to change head coaches and change quarterbacks.  Joe Douglas pulled the plug a year or two too early and it's going to set us back another 3 years unless Saleh and Wilson start looking good and right now that is a longshot at best.

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2 minutes ago, SAR I said:

7-9 was against an easy schedule.  2-14 was against a hard schedule.

This year is an easier schedule than the 7-9 schedule and we're headed to a 1-16 record.

There is a right time and a wrong time to change head coaches and change quarterbacks.  Joe Douglas pulled the plug a year or two too early and it's going to set us back another 3 years unless Saleh and Wilson start looking good and right now that is a longshot at best.

SAR I

Yes. Year three is too early to pick a coach and a quarterback. He should have waited until year four like Darnold and year five like Gase because that worked out great.

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For those saying that we'd be 4-1 with Darnold... He ain't having a great game. He didn't play well when playing with the Jets. He's had a couple good games playing with a new coach / team, not sure if those are outliers or what to expect moving forward...

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