Smashmouth Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Stinks Discuss 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smashmouth Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 3.5 yard average No clue what to do after hitting a hole that is when he's not completely missing the hole Can't make people miss or break a tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ken Schroy Posted October 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: 3.5 yard average No clue what to do after hitting a hole that is when he's not completely missing the hole Can't make people miss or break a tackle What holes? This OL for run blocking sux. They got better at pass blocking so they are no longer at the bottom. yippeee 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smashmouth Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ken Schroy said: What holes? This OL for run blocking sux. They got better at pass blocking so they are no longer at the bottom. yippeee You can make the argument its the OL's fault but he's missing a lot of holes that I can see and he's a terrible runner in the open field when he does hit the hole. Instead of making quick cuts and running into the open field with conviction he dances and gets nothing. He has absolutely zero ability to cut on the run and its obvious when he starts stuttering and dancing giving tacklers the chance to easily make a tackle. As I have said before he is the reincarnation of Blair Thomas who had the same exact problem except Blair was better than Carter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 carter is a good player. he does hit the holes when they are there and he's patient when he can be. the oline needs to block better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, SAR I said: SAR I Hilarious .... But he sucks for reasons other than being small Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: You can make the argument its the OL's fault but he's missing a lot of holes that I can see and he's a terrible runner in the open field when he does hit the hole. Instead of making quick cuts and running into the open field with conviction he dances and gets nothing. He has absolutely zero ability to cut on the run and its obvious when he starts stuttering and dancing giving tacklers the chance to easily make a tackle. As I have said before he is the reincarnation of Blair Thomas who had the same exact problem except Blair was better than Carter. I think your expectations for a rookie RB behind this OL are not realistic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, rangerous said: carter is a good player. he does hit the holes when they are there and he's patient when he can be. the oline needs to block better. Ranger we don't disagree much but on this one I'm gonna have to go the other way. Hitting a hole is one thing doing something other than dancing after he hits the hole is the problem I have with his play. Perine will take the Job when he comes back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Augustiniak Posted October 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2021 Of all the people to blame for the offense sucking, carter is near the bottom. 8 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Ken Schroy said: I think your expectations for a rookie RB behind this OL are not realistic. Rookie RB's more so than any other rookie position player play with more instinct and are usually way ahead of other position players when it comes to immediate impact. From what I have seen he's a terrible runner and that's why he's averaging 3.5 per carry. If the Pats did not totally avoid playing the run against us Carter might be averaging well under 3 YPC. He gets tripped up more than Frank Gore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Smashmouth said: Ranger we don't disagree much but on this one I'm gonna have to go the other way. Hitting a hole is one thing doing something other than dancing after he hits the hole is the problem I have with his play. Perine will take the Job when he comes back we'll see. he made a couple of nice runs off the left side and then his two touchdowns showed he can hit the hole with speed. i think as the oline gets better he'll look a lot better. i also think one of the real issues is they've almost forgotten about the run game. sure passes are pretty and all but if the jets keep getting 3 and outs then it's a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: Of all the people to blame for the offense sucking, carter is near the bottom. You like dancers who can't break tackles or make sharp cuts then MC is your man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzyJet Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 27 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: Stinks Discuss To be honest, I don't believe he was a scheme fit. This type of running offense requires a one cut runner, someone like Chubba Hubbard, who has been quite productive in Carolina. Michael Carter's tape was so fun to watch because he runs like Leon Washington/ Reggie Bush scat back style. But I didn't think it was a scheme fit, and still don't. He could improve if the o-line improves. But I would have to agree with this take at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Not really impressed. He’s not as fast as he was advertised and doesn’t break tackles either. He had a massive hole yesterday on one run and was brought down with a weak arm tackle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: You can make the argument its the OL's fault but he's missing a lot of holes that I can see and he's a terrible runner in the open field when he does hit the hole. Instead of making quick cuts and running into the open field with conviction he dances and gets nothing. He has absolutely zero ability to cut on the run and its obvious when he starts stuttering and dancing giving tacklers the chance to easily make a tackle. As I have said before he is the reincarnation of Blair Thomas who had the same exact problem except Blair was better than Carter. He is being used as a lead back and he isn't one. It's pretty obvious we need to sign or draft a RB. We could have drafted Javonte Williams instead of Moore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 3.4 ypc so far isn't encouraging. Needs a few more games till I make final judgment but I did note in the game thread he seemed slow... If Moore and Carter end up being non factors this team is in trouble in the never ending rebuild 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Can't tell yet.Must break more tackles and develop any sort of stiff arm.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe W. Namath Posted October 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2021 Michael Carter has been good for us. Has a td in each of the last 2 games and has had some nice catches on screen passes. The rookie is really coming along and will only get better as the season goes on. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 They need to use Carter more in the passing game. He’s a really good receiver, get him some work in space and start running the wheel route with him, he’s tough to cover with LBers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harris5214 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I laughed after he couldn’t elude a DT in the open in the second half yesterday Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 without the Patriot game where they basically ignored the run Michael Carter is 36 for 106 for a 2.9 yard average he's 9 for 64 receiving with a whopping 7.1 yard average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Ideally he should be more of a third down back or obvious passing down back. This team is still searching for an every down running back. Carter isn’t it. Not a bad player but isn’t going to be a difference maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Both Carter's look like good players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 This post stinks. Discuss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 30 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Not really impressed. He’s not as fast as he was advertised and doesn’t break tackles either. He had a massive hole yesterday on one run and was brought down with a weak arm tackle. If people want to talk size Austin Eckler is 5'10" 200 and has run for 347 years at a 5.2 per carry clip. Hes a total beast in the passing game Wonder what these ten guys below do for their QB ? Look at the teams and their records. Mayfield has Hunt and Chubb wonder if that helps a bit ? Think Eckler had an impact taking pressure off Herbert ? Think Joe Mixon takes pressure off Joe Burrow ? Derrick Henry / Tannehill . Dak has Elliot and Pollard and Pollard would be our premier back . This team, with the amount of picks we have in next years draft, better get the best RB on the board to take pressure off our Young QB or this will turn into another sh*t show just like it kind of is now. 1 Derrick HenryTEN 2 Nick ChubbCLE 3 Ezekiel ElliottDAL 4 James RobinsonJAX 5 Joe MixonCIN 6 Alvin KamaraNO 7 Austin EkelerLAC 8 Tony PollardDAL 9 Antonio GibsonWSH 10 Aaron JonesGB Wo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smashmouth Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: This post stinks. Discuss. yep your post stinks. Im giving valid reasons why this team needs a real RB what reasons have you given in defense of Carter not doing much of anything ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HawkeyeJet Posted October 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2021 46 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Not really impressed. He’s not as fast as he was advertised and doesn’t break tackles either. He had a massive hole yesterday on one run and was brought down with a weak arm tackle. According to Pro Football Focus, Carter has forced 11 missed tackles across his 29 touches this season. That’s an average of 0.379 per carry, ranking second-best in the league among 50 qualified running backs (min. 20 carries) behind only fellow rookie Najee Harris (0.383). 13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Hard to make an accurate assessment when the offense is in shambles but on the list of issues, he is near the bottom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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