LSJF Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Annnnd coming in at number 10.... The Browns are well represented on this list, and the Patsies make an appearance... https://www.stadiumtalk.com/s/worst-nfl-teams-modern-history-fa96bdbba3014493?utm_campaign=worstnfl-f9604c9ce4074594&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=fac&utm_content=1469189&fbclid=IwAR1P_mwzv-A_sK4j-w0yrDCl84q8DCQsl3srjByBfubQd28CVSjgX1-0n2U 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSJF Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 The 1996 Jets were famously bad, even among Jets teams. Kotite was universally reviled by fans, who made shirts that read “Just End The Season” and “Ditch Rich.” All of this after they used the No.1 overall pick to take USC wide receiver Keyshawn Johnson. The Jets started 0-8 and lost six games by one possession or less. Kotite’s incompetence led to the Bill Parcells era, and the Jets were in the AFC Championship Game just two years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted October 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2021 I'll just say it, 2018-2021 (so far) Jets have all been worse and harder to watch that the Kotite Year of 1996. Perhaps the "Bias of Now" has me, and the Kotite pain has faded away, but these last three years have been utterly horrid. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, LSJF said: Kotite’s incompetence led to the Bill Parcells era, and the Jets were in the AFC Championship Game just two years later. Hm wow amazing stat 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted October 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Warfish said: I'll just say it, 2018-2021 (so far) Jets have all been worse and harder to watch that the Kotite Year of 1996. Perhaps the "Bias of Now" has me, and the Kotite pain has faded away, but these last three years have been utterly horrid. Similar aesthetic, but it’s like if we replaced Kotite with Dave Wannstedt instead of Parcells. 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Hm wow amazing stat Keyshawn said 1997 was like his rookie year because he learned nothing under kotite. the only person who was excited about kotite being hired was that idiot boomer easiason who welcomed the jets being “more physical and less cerebral” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted October 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Similar aesthetic, but it’s like if we replaced Kotite with Dave Wannstedt instead of Parcells. Problem is, who is today's "Bill Parcells". There isn't exactly a famous can't miss veteran proven-resume coach just sitting around waiting for our call. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Warfish said: I'll just say it, 2018-2021 (so far) Jets have all been worse and harder to watch that the Kotite Year of 1996. Perhaps the "Bias of Now" has me, and the Kotite pain has faded away, but these last three years have been utterly horrid. Hugh Douglas gained almost 30lbs during the bye week under kotites strict discipline lol I’ll never forget that. and everybody…I mean everybody had pulled hamstrings. famous kotite quote at a presser “we gotta get back on track” derp reporter: “coach, when has the team been on track?” Derpa dee derp ”I’m not fired and I’m not quitting, I’m just walking away” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, Warfish said: I'll just say it, 2018-2021 (so far) Jets have all been worse and harder to watch that the Kotite Year of 1996. Perhaps the "Bias of Now" has me, and the Kotite pain has faded away, but these last three years have been utterly horrid. I would argue the team last year was worse than either Kotite team, especially when you consider the emotional devastation attached to Darnold busting so hard here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Warfish said: Problem is, who is today's "Bill Parcells". There isn't exactly a famous can't miss veteran proven-resume coach just sitting around waiting for our call. Nobody that I can think of. He was the only guy at that time that could have done that. You can’t be a strict dick without a track record. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinJamesPornhub Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Rich Kotite wasn’t a terrible hire. He was a really good OC with the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted October 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2021 1-15 1996 Kotite Jets: 5,208 Yards of Offense, 279 points, Ranked 27th in Points, 11th in Yards 5,564 Yards Allowed on Defense, 454 points allowed, Ranked 29th in Points Allowed, 27th in Yards Allowed 2-14 2020 Gase Jets: 4,479 Yards of Offense, 243 points, Ranked 32nd in Points, 32nd in Yards 6,201 Yards Allowed on Defense, 457 points allowed, Ranked 26th in Points Allowed, 24th in Yards Allowed As bad as Kotite was, he was no Adam Gase. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lith Posted October 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2021 35 minutes ago, Warfish said: I'll just say it, 2018-2021 (so far) Jets have all been worse and harder to watch that the Kotite Year of 1996. Perhaps the "Bias of Now" has me, and the Kotite pain has faded away, but these last three years have been utterly horrid. I don't think it is necessarily recency bias as much as the weight of the last decade. Not one playoff appearance in 11 years. In 1996, they had only been out of the playoffs for 5 seasons. Two years later they were an SB contender. This is the 11th season of mostly bad football. Different coaches, different GMs, different QBs, complete roster turnover two or three times. And we still have not been able to build a competitor. I really think the weight of the last decade makes this stretch worse than the 90s. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 21 minutes ago, KevinJamesPornhub said: Rich Kotite wasn’t a terrible hire. He was a really good OC with the Jets. What's the over/under of you getting perma-banned? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post New York Mick Posted October 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2021 Gase was the worst HC in Jets history 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Just now, New York Mick said: Gase was the worst HC in Jets history I'm putting Lou Holtz at 1-a. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, Warfish said: 1-15 1996 Kotite Jets: 5,208 Yards of Offense, 279 points, Ranked 27th in Points, 11th in Yards 5,564 Yards Allowed on Defense, 454 points allowed, Ranked 29th in Points Allowed, 27th in Yards Allowed 2-14 2020 Gase Jets: 4,479 Yards of Offense, 243 points, Ranked 32nd in Points, 32nd in Yards 6,201 Yards Allowed on Defense, 457 points allowed, Ranked 26th in Points Allowed, 24th in Yards Allowed As bad as Kotite was, he was no Adam Gase. Here’s the difference: Leon Hess made up for that debacle by stealing the Patriots head coach before they were about to play in the super bowl. And said coach turned the whole franchise around in one year. What has Woody and Christopher done? you can’t go with a rookie head coach again with most of our roster being under the Gase regime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, munchmemory said: I'm putting Lou Holtz at 1-a. At least Holtz had enough sense to realize that he didn't belong in the pro game. And left after less than a season. Worst part about these worst coach in Jet history debates is that there are so many guys you can make a good case for. Holtz, Gase and Kotite -- I can't imagine any other team has a trio like that to choose from. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Anybody have the actual list? I f*cking hate scrolling though this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Just now, Lith said: At least Holtz had enough sense to realize that he didn't belong in the pro game. And left after less than a season. Worst part about these worst coach in Jet history debates is that there are so many guys you can make a good case for. Holtz, Gase and Kotite -- I can't imagine any other team has a trio like that to choose from. I'll give the a-hole that. Holtz is still a clueless dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 In honor of my wedding anniversary, sipping this right now, so won't let this team's history, for once, upset me. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 55 minutes ago, New York Mick said: Gase was the worst HC in Jets history "Have they seen Robert Saleh?" SAR I 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, KevinJamesPornhub said: Rich Kotite wasn’t a terrible hire. He was a really good OC with the Jets. Don't have the courage to post under your own name? Kotite was horrible and got run out of Philadelphia. He wasn't a "really good OC with the Jets." He was Walton's errand boy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, BP said: Here’s the difference: Leon Hess made up for that debacle by stealing the Patriots head coach before they were about to play in the super bowl. And said coach turned the whole franchise around in one year. What has Woody and Christopher done? you can’t go with a rookie head coach again with most of our roster being under the Gase regime. Stealing? We gave up a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th for that fat ******* carpetbagger that ran off the second somebody else waved some money or something shiny came along. That fat **** always got bored before the job was done. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Just now, #27TheDominator said: Stealing? We gave up a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th for that fat ******* carpetbagger that ran off the second somebody else waved some money or something shiny came along. That fat **** always got bored before the job was done. Was it worth it? Of course it was. The way the Jets have horribly forever drafted and you’re concerned about draft picks? they gave up a lot for Curtis Martin too. Nobody ever complained about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, BP said: Was it worth it? Of course it was. The way the Jets have horribly forever drafted and you’re concerned about draft picks? they gave up a lot for Curtis Martin too. Nobody ever complained about that. We do too! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DepressedJetsFan23 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Warfish said: 1-15 1996 Kotite Jets: 5,208 Yards of Offense, 279 points, Ranked 27th in Points, 11th in Yards 5,564 Yards Allowed on Defense, 454 points allowed, Ranked 29th in Points Allowed, 27th in Yards Allowed 2-14 2020 Gase Jets: 4,479 Yards of Offense, 243 points, Ranked 32nd in Points, 32nd in Yards 6,201 Yards Allowed on Defense, 457 points allowed, Ranked 26th in Points Allowed, 24th in Yards Allowed As bad as Kotite was, he was no Adam Gase. And think about how the modern NFL has paved the way for offenses to put up better statistics smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 2 hours ago, BP said: Hugh Douglas gained almost 30lbs during the bye week under kotites strict discipline lol I’ll never forget that. and everybody…I mean everybody had pulled hamstrings. famous kotite quote at a presser “we gotta get back on track” derp reporter: “coach, when has the team been on track?” Derpa dee derp ”I’m not fired and I’m not quitting, I’m just walking away” My Dad played a couple of games with Kotite at Poly Prep when he was graduating Miami. The two stories he always told were that they made him cover Kotite because he was a rocket. He said he couldn't figure out how Kotite was cutting so well and then he realized Kotite was the only one wearing cleats because they usually played on the concrete at Dyker. The other story involved playing D on the goal when they were on the same team. Dad had the outside with Kotite inside him. They sent a guy to the front pylon and another to the back corner. Kotite told Dad they were both his problem because he "had the outside." He told my Dad he was supposed to hedge between them and my Dad was like "I know all that, but hedging gives the guy at the goal line an easy catch and you are sitting there sucking your thumb." I don't think they got along. Dockery was in those games too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 2 hours ago, LSJF said: The 1996 Jets were famously bad, even among Jets teams. Kotite was universally reviled by fans, who made shirts that read “Just End The Season” and “Ditch Rich.” All of this after they used the No.1 overall pick to take USC wide receiver Keyshawn Johnson. The Jets started 0-8 and lost six games by one possession or less. Kotite’s incompetence led to the Bill Parcells era, and the Jets were in the AFC Championship Game just two years later. Would have made playoffs in 1997 with a Neil O'Donnell-led flawed team but for Parcells getting a little wildcat crazy vs. the Lions o n the last day of the season. A reminder is you can get in the playoffs if your coach is a smart guy who utilizes the talent on hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 hours ago, KevinJamesPornhub said: Rich Kotite wasn’t a terrible hire. He was a really good OC with the Jets. how about his 1st 2 years in Phila he won 10 and 11 games and finish his 4 years there at 36-28. and he went to the playoffs and went 1-1 then he comes here and goes 4-28 and is consider one of the worst coaches in NFL history. almost feel bad for him. if he goes to another team maybe his career ends up different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 hours ago, munchmemory said: I'm putting Lou Holtz at 1-a. That works 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, SAR I said: "Have they seen Robert Saleh?" SAR I Give him a few years then he can join the ring of failure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fleming Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, BP said: Was it worth it? Of course it was. The way the Jets have horribly forever drafted and you’re concerned about draft picks? they gave up a lot for Curtis Martin too. Nobody ever complained about that. Parcells started a 12 year renaissance with consistent Jets success. That Parcells-Rex era was a great time in retrospect. I became a conscious fan during the Coslet era. Parcells brought a sense of hope, renewal and then consistent success. At that time, you felt comfortable knowing that team could beat any other in the league. Before him, I could count the wins and losses on the schedule before the season began, and immediately discount the power teams and going the the West Coast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 3 hours ago, LSJF said: The Jets started 0-8 and lost six games by one possession or less. Kotite’s incompetence led to the Bill Parcells era, and the Jets were in the AFC Championship Game just two years later. Jets even though they only won 1 game were in other games. 2020 the Jets were out of before half most games. Parcells did a great job. But it’s not like he took over a team just completely talent less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Depressing thread. My two cents... Kotite then Gase as the worse, recently. I'd consider Holtz and Charlie Winner as well. FWIW on Bill Parcells. Good coach but complete carpetbagger. He was really trying to cash in on his "brand" at that point of his career. Also, Kevin from Pornhub is a troll. Please ignore him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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