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The 1996 Jets were famously bad, even among Jets teams. Kotite was universally reviled by fans, who made shirts that read “Just End The Season” and “Ditch Rich.” All of this after they used the No.1 overall pick to take USC wide receiver Keyshawn Johnson. 

The Jets started 0-8 and lost six games by one possession or less. Kotite’s incompetence led to the Bill Parcells era, and the Jets were in the AFC Championship Game just two years later.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, LSJF said:

Kotite’s incompetence led to the Bill Parcells era, and the Jets were in the AFC Championship Game just two years later.

Hm wow amazing stat

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10 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Hm wow amazing stat

Keyshawn said 1997 was like his rookie year because he learned nothing under kotite.

the only person who was excited about kotite being hired was that idiot boomer easiason who welcomed the jets being “more physical and less cerebral”

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6 minutes ago, Warfish said:

I'll just say it, 2018-2021 (so far) Jets have all been worse and harder to watch that the Kotite Year of 1996.

Perhaps the "Bias of Now" has me, and the Kotite pain has faded away, but these last three years have been utterly horrid.

Hugh Douglas gained almost 30lbs during the bye week under kotites strict discipline lol I’ll never forget that.

 

and everybody…I mean everybody had pulled hamstrings.

 

famous kotite quote at a presser “we gotta get back on track” derp reporter: “coach, when has the team been on track?” Derpa dee derp

 

”I’m not fired and I’m not quitting, I’m just walking away” :rl: 

 

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10 minutes ago, Warfish said:

I'll just say it, 2018-2021 (so far) Jets have all been worse and harder to watch that the Kotite Year of 1996.

Perhaps the "Bias of Now" has me, and the Kotite pain has faded away, but these last three years have been utterly horrid.

I would argue the team last year was worse than either Kotite team, especially when you consider the emotional devastation attached to Darnold busting so hard here. 

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4 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Problem is, who is today's "Bill Parcells".

There isn't exactly a famous can't miss veteran proven-resume coach just sitting around waiting for our call.

Nobody that I can think of. He was the only guy at that time that could have done that. You can’t be a strict dick without a track record.

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17 minutes ago, Warfish said:

1-15 1996 Kotite Jets:

5,208 Yards of Offense, 279 points, Ranked 27th in Points, 11th in Yards

5,564 Yards Allowed on Defense, 454 points allowed, Ranked 29th in Points Allowed, 27th in Yards Allowed

2-14 2020 Gase Jets:

4,479 Yards of Offense, 243 points, Ranked 32nd in Points, 32nd in Yards

6,201 Yards Allowed on Defense, 457 points allowed, Ranked 26th in Points Allowed, 24th in Yards Allowed

As bad as Kotite was, he was no Adam Gase.

Here’s the difference:

 

Leon Hess made up for that debacle by stealing the Patriots head coach before they were about to play in the super bowl. And said coach turned the whole franchise around in one year.

 

What has Woody and Christopher done? 
 

you can’t go with a rookie head coach again with most of our roster being under the Gase regime. 

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9 minutes ago, munchmemory said:

I'm putting Lou Holtz at 1-a.

At least Holtz had enough sense to realize that he didn't belong in the pro game.  And left after less than a season. 

Worst part about these worst coach in Jet history debates is that there are so many guys you can make a good case for.  Holtz, Gase and Kotite -- I can't imagine any other team has a trio like that to choose from.

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Just now, Lith said:

At least Holtz had enough sense to realize that he didn't belong in the pro game.  And left after less than a season. 

Worst part about these worst coach in Jet history debates is that there are so many guys you can make a good case for.  Holtz, Gase and Kotite -- I can't imagine any other team has a trio like that to choose from.

I'll give the a-hole that.  Holtz is still a clueless dick.

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1 hour ago, KevinJamesPornhub said:

Rich Kotite wasn’t a terrible hire. He was a really good OC with the Jets. 

Don't have the courage to post under your own name?  Kotite was horrible and got run out of Philadelphia.  He wasn't a "really good OC with the Jets."  He was Walton's errand boy.  

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1 hour ago, BP said:

Here’s the difference:

 

Leon Hess made up for that debacle by stealing the Patriots head coach before they were about to play in the super bowl. And said coach turned the whole franchise around in one year.

 

What has Woody and Christopher done? 
 

you can’t go with a rookie head coach again with most of our roster being under the Gase regime. 

Stealing?  We gave up a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th for that fat ******* carpetbagger that ran off the second somebody else waved some money or something shiny came along.  That fat **** always got bored before the job was done. 

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Just now, #27TheDominator said:

Stealing?  We gave up a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th for that fat ******* carpetbagger that ran off the second somebody else waved some money or something shiny came along.  That fat **** always got bored before the job was done. 

Was it worth it? Of course it was. The way the Jets have horribly forever drafted and you’re concerned about draft picks? :rl: 

they gave up a lot for Curtis Martin too. Nobody ever complained about that. 

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7 minutes ago, BP said:

Was it worth it? Of course it was. The way the Jets have horribly forever drafted and you’re concerned about draft picks? :rl: 

they gave up a lot for Curtis Martin too. Nobody ever complained about that. 

We do too!  

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1 hour ago, Warfish said:

1-15 1996 Kotite Jets:

5,208 Yards of Offense, 279 points, Ranked 27th in Points, 11th in Yards

5,564 Yards Allowed on Defense, 454 points allowed, Ranked 29th in Points Allowed, 27th in Yards Allowed

2-14 2020 Gase Jets:

4,479 Yards of Offense, 243 points, Ranked 32nd in Points, 32nd in Yards

6,201 Yards Allowed on Defense, 457 points allowed, Ranked 26th in Points Allowed, 24th in Yards Allowed

As bad as Kotite was, he was no Adam Gase.

And think about how the modern NFL has paved the way for offenses to put up better statistics smh

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2 hours ago, BP said:

Hugh Douglas gained almost 30lbs during the bye week under kotites strict discipline lol I’ll never forget that.

 

and everybody…I mean everybody had pulled hamstrings.

 

famous kotite quote at a presser “we gotta get back on track” derp reporter: “coach, when has the team been on track?” Derpa dee derp

 

”I’m not fired and I’m not quitting, I’m just walking away” :rl: 

 

My Dad played a couple of games with Kotite at Poly Prep when he was graduating Miami.  The two stories he always told were that they made him cover Kotite because he was a rocket.  He said he couldn't figure out how Kotite was cutting so well and then he realized Kotite was the only one wearing cleats because they usually played on the concrete at Dyker. 

The other story involved playing D on the goal when they were on the same team.  Dad had the outside with Kotite inside him.  They sent a guy to the front pylon and another to the back corner.  Kotite told Dad they were both his problem because he "had the outside."  He told my Dad he was supposed to hedge between them and my Dad was like "I know all that, but hedging gives the guy at the goal line an easy catch and you are sitting there sucking your thumb."  I don't think they got along.  Dockery was in those games too.  

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2 hours ago, LSJF said:

The 1996 Jets were famously bad, even among Jets teams. Kotite was universally reviled by fans, who made shirts that read “Just End The Season” and “Ditch Rich.” All of this after they used the No.1 overall pick to take USC wide receiver Keyshawn Johnson. 

The Jets started 0-8 and lost six games by one possession or less. Kotite’s incompetence led to the Bill Parcells era, and the Jets were in the AFC Championship Game just two years later.

 

 

Would have made playoffs in 1997 with a Neil O'Donnell-led flawed team but for Parcells getting a little wildcat crazy vs. the Lions o n the last day of the season. A reminder is you can get in the playoffs if your coach is a smart guy who utilizes the talent on hand. 

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2 hours ago, KevinJamesPornhub said:

Rich Kotite wasn’t a terrible hire. He was a really good OC with the Jets. 

how about his 1st 2 years in Phila he won 10 and 11 games and finish his 4 years there at 36-28. and he went to the playoffs and went 1-1

then he comes here and goes 4-28 and is consider one of the worst coaches in NFL history.

almost feel bad for him. if he goes to another team maybe his career ends up different. 

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1 hour ago, BP said:

Was it worth it? Of course it was. The way the Jets have horribly forever drafted and you’re concerned about draft picks? :rl: 

they gave up a lot for Curtis Martin too. Nobody ever complained about that. 

Parcells started a 12 year renaissance with consistent Jets success. That Parcells-Rex era was a great time in retrospect. 
 

I became a conscious fan during the Coslet era. Parcells brought a sense of hope, renewal and then consistent success. At that time, you felt comfortable knowing that team could beat any other in the league. Before him, I could count the wins and losses on the schedule before the season began, and immediately discount the power teams and going the the West Coast.

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3 hours ago, LSJF said:

 

The Jets started 0-8 and lost six games by one possession or less. Kotite’s incompetence led to the Bill Parcells era, and the Jets were in the AFC Championship Game just two years later.

 

 

Jets even though they only won 1 game were in other games. 2020 the Jets were out of before half most games. 
 

Parcells did a great job. But it’s not like he took over a team just completely talent less 

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Depressing thread.  My two cents...

Kotite then Gase as the worse, recently.  I'd consider Holtz and Charlie Winner as well.

FWIW on Bill Parcells.  Good coach but complete carpetbagger.  He was really trying to cash in on his "brand" at that point of his career.

Also, Kevin from Pornhub is a troll.  Please ignore him.

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