The Cardinals Built the Proper way

[kevinc855]

The Cardinals are 6-0 and look dangerous. 

Their last winning season? 2015? Oh sound familiar? 

With some awful seasons mixed in 3-13 under Wilks in 18 (canned in a year) 

5-10-1 2019 

8-8 2020

What did the Cardinals do? Build through the draft for some 5 year experiment? Nahhh, aggressive in FA with a developing young QB. Take a look at some of these signings in the link at the bottom.

Stoppp with the rookie experiment nonsense. Be aggressive in offseason 2022 and build this team in FA, with a sprinkle of our picks who may or may not pan out. Biggest question marks are Carter and Moore. AVT will work. 

2020, fuggedha about it.

Jet up baby

A look at the Arizona Cardinals' gains, losses in 2021 NFL free agency (arizonasports.com)

[T0mShane]

Totally agreed. We should absolutely use the first overall pick on Spencer Rattler next year. That’s how you build a team, baby. Stacking QBs high like sandbags.

[Wit]

6 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

The Cardinals are 6-0 and look dangerous. 

Their last winning season? 2015? Oh sound familiar? 

With some awful seasons mixed in 3-13 under Wilks in 18 (canned in a year) 

5-10-1 2019 

8-8 2020

What did the Cardinals do? Build through the draft for some 5 year experiment? Nahhh, aggressive in FA with a developing young QB. Take a look at some of these signings in the link at the bottom.

Stoppp with the rookie experiment nonsense. Be aggressive in offseason 2022 and build this team in FA, with a sprinkle of our picks who may or may not pan out. Biggest question marks are Carter and Moore. AVT will work. 

2020, fuggedha about it.

Jet up baby

A look at the Arizona Cardinals' gains, losses in 2021 NFL free agency (arizonasports.com)

They canned one experimental qb and coach for another experimental qb and coach and it worked. We can keep doing that, but no one decent will want to be drafted here and no good aspiring head coach will sign here. It makes for good entertainment though. 
 

oh yeah they also had the number one pick.

[slimjasi]

Tbh, the big key there was having the balls to draft Murray a year after whiffing on Rosen. 

That and having the balls to hire Kingsbury. 

 

(at the end of the day, it's about picking the right players and coaches. What a crazy concept, right?)

[FidelioJet]

9 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

The Cardinals are 6-0 and look dangerous. 

Their last winning season? 2015? Oh sound familiar? 

With some awful seasons mixed in 3-13 under Wilks in 18 (canned in a year) 

5-10-1 2019 

8-8 2020

What did the Cardinals do? Build through the draft for some 5 year experiment? Nahhh, aggressive in FA with a developing young QB. Take a look at some of these signings in the link at the bottom.

Stoppp with the rookie experiment nonsense. Be aggressive in offseason 2022 and build this team in FA, with a sprinkle of our picks who may or may not pan out. Biggest question marks are Carter and Moore. AVT will work. 

2020, fuggedha about it.

Jet up baby

A look at the Arizona Cardinals' gains, losses in 2021 NFL free agency (arizonasports.com)

I think this off-season we're going to learn about JD.

His first three years were really about tearing everything down.  This year was really the first step and he stepped up for Davis and Lawson...

The tear down is fully complete, we are an expansion team.   They have their QB - I expect him to be a big spender this off-season...It's time to win now.  He gets no more free passes after this year.

I would very much like to NOT be the team with the most cap space going into the 2022 season - as usual..

[kevinc855]

1 minute ago, Wit said:

but no one decent will want to be drafted here

Lawrence was begging not to come here. You think QBs are excited to come here now???

[Wit]

Just now, kevinc855 said:

Lawrence was begging not to come here. You think QBs are excited to come here now???

How do you know that?? He’s also a bible thumper from the south. If he didn’t want to be here he CERTAINLY wouldn’t want to come somewhere they sh*t can the offensive system until they “get it right”.

[kevinc855]

2 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Tbh, the big key there was having the balls to draft Murray a year after whiffing on Rosen. 

That and having the balls to hire Kingsbury. 

 

(at the end of the day, it's about picking the right players and coaches. What a crazy concept, right?)

agreed, when you think about it, that was really ballsy 

[slimjasi]

2 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Lawrence was begging not to come here. 

link?

[FidelioJet]

1 minute ago, kevinc855 said:

agreed, when you think about it, that was really ballsy 

I mean, by all accounts Rosen was really that bad.  

 

[TokyoJetsFan]

Bill O'Brien should get a honorary Super Bowl ring if they win it for giving them DeAndre Hopkins

[Bronx]

1 hour ago, slimjasi said:

link?

https://www.nationalenquirer.com

[bla bla bla]

16 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

The Cardinals are 6-0 and look dangerous. 

Their last winning season? 2015? Oh sound familiar? 

With some awful seasons mixed in 3-13 under Wilks in 18 (canned in a year) 

5-10-1 2019 

8-8 2020

What did the Cardinals do? Build through the draft for some 5 year experiment? Nahhh, aggressive in FA with a developing young QB. Take a look at some of these signings in the link at the bottom.

Stoppp with the rookie experiment nonsense. Be aggressive in offseason 2022 and build this team in FA, with a sprinkle of our picks who may or may not pan out. Biggest question marks are Carter and Moore. AVT will work. 

2020, fuggedha about it.

Jet up baby

A look at the Arizona Cardinals' gains, losses in 2021 NFL free agency (arizonasports.com)

Others have said it but getting the #1 pick and bailing on your HC for a roll of the dice was the boost they needed. After that is when the big pieces started coming together. I'm not sure it's fair to criticize the Jets for not landing a Hopkins level trade, by all accounts that I've heard no one around the league was aware he was being shopped.

[dbatesman]

I love that there’s an actual human being in the Year of Our Lord 2021 who is compulsively driven to prove that building through the draft is Actually Bad 

[T0mShane]

10 minutes ago, Wit said:

He’s also a bible thumper from the south.

And now he’s in godless sh*thole Jacksonville, Florida with Coach Fingerbanger praying for sweet death. 

[Wit]

Just now, T0mShane said:

And now he’s in godless sh*thole Jacksonville, Florida with Coach Fingerbanger praying for sweet death. 

Jacksonville and Meyer have many faces. 

[Dcat]

Sure helps when you get D Hopkins for a 2nd round pick in the prime of his career. 

[playtowinthegame]

Steve Keim has huge balls. 

[SAR I]

33 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Totally agreed. We should totally use the first overall pick on Spencer Rattler next year. That’s how you build a team, baby. Stacking QBs high like sandbags.

No joke.....

If the Jets truly won't do it the Tannenbaum FA way, fine, then you don't stop until you find the 10 year franchise quarterback.  It doesn't take long to figure out if you've got a chunk of gold or a lump of coal.  We could see it with Darnold on his first NFL pass, we can see it with Zach with his 50/50 risky longballs and 5 yard dirtball implosions against the dregs of the league.

Keep sucking, keep picking QB's until you get a great one.  This perpetual draft rebuild nonsense never works because if you don't nail the FQB you are just as f-cked as if you didn't bother rebuilding at all.  Two ways to win-  find the franchise quarterback or get everything else right and roll with a cheap rookie QB.  Find Joe Namath II or roll with Mark Sanchez II.  That's how it works.

SAR I

[dbatesman]

Just now, SAR I said:

We could see it with Darnold on his first NFL pass

 

1 minute ago, SAR I said:

We could see it with Darnold

 

1 minute ago, SAR I said:

We could see it

 

3 minutes ago, SAR I said:

We

mmhmm

[SR24]

I’d really like to see Joe D make a trade for a TE before the deadline but I doubt he actually will 

[kdels62]

Maybe the Cardinals let their QB and coaches make mistakes while continually adding pieces. 

[RutgersJetFan]

26 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

I love that there’s an actual human being in the Year of Our Lord 2021 who is compulsively driven to prove that building through the draft is Actually Bad 

I enjoyed your execution of capitalization in this post.

[Integrity28]

43 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Totally agreed. We should totally use the first overall pick on Spencer Rattler next year. That’s how you build a team, baby. Stacking QBs high like sandbags.

Take one every year until you find 2.

[kdels62]

Just now, Integrity28 said:

Take one every year until you find 2.

But if you have 2 QBs then you have no QBs… 

[Jetscode1]

37 minutes ago, TokyoJetsFan said:

Bill O'Brien should get a honorary Super Bowl ring if they win it for giving them DeAndre Hopkins

^^^This^^^

Definitely helps a young QB when you bring in the best WR in football.  

[T0mShane]

4 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Take one every year until you find 2.

 

3 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

But if you have 2 QBs then you have no QBs… 

Even if you just get average production out of both of them, that’s still twice as much production.

[T0mShane]

18 minutes ago, SAR I said:

No joke.....

If the Jets truly won't do it the Tannenbaum FA way, fine, then you don't stop until you find the 10 year franchise quarterback.  It doesn't take long to figure out if you've got a chunk of gold or a lump of coal.  We could see it with Darnold on his first NFL pass, we can see it with Zach with his 50/50 risky longballs and 5 yard dirtball implosions against the dregs of the league.

Keep sucking, keep picking QB's until you get a great one.  This perpetual draft rebuild nonsense never works because if you don't nail the FQB you are just as f-cked as if you didn't bother rebuilding at all.  Two ways to win-  find the franchise quarterback or get everything else right and roll with a cheap rookie QB.  Find Joe Namath II or roll with Mark Sanchez II.  That's how it works.

SAR I

I feel like there might come a point this offseason where trading Zack Wilson becomes a conversation for the Jets.

[Barton]

We will see how Saleh works out but it seems like the guy has zero input on the offense and developing Wilson. He essentially said upon hiring "LaFleur is my guy and I'm giving him the keys to the offense". This is really not good. I dont think alot of fans realized it. This is not how you run a team. You are the head coach. It is YOUR offense.

[Lupz27]

56 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

The Cardinals are 6-0 and look dangerous. 

Their last winning season? 2015? Oh sound familiar? 

With some awful seasons mixed in 3-13 under Wilks in 18 (canned in a year) 

5-10-1 2019 

8-8 2020

What did the Cardinals do? Build through the draft for some 5 year experiment? Nahhh, aggressive in FA with a developing young QB. Take a look at some of these signings in the link at the bottom.

Stoppp with the rookie experiment nonsense. Be aggressive in offseason 2022 and build this team in FA, with a sprinkle of our picks who may or may not pan out. Biggest question marks are Carter and Moore. AVT will work. 

2020, fuggedha about it.

Jet up baby

A look at the Arizona Cardinals' gains, losses in 2021 NFL free agency (arizonasports.com)

Yes by hiring the coach we interviewed and should have hired.  That’s what they did right.

[Jetscode1]

6 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

But if you have 2 QBs then you have no QBs… 

Or you draft two until you know one is the guy and then trade the other.  Many roads to Dublin.

[Jetscode1]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I feel like there might come a point this offseason where trading Zack Wilson becomes a conversation for the Jets.

Pretty sure that's Zach with an H but does that really matter to your narrative.  Nah, probably not.

[Uncle Nicco]

Kingsbury came into this year on the hot seat, if the cards don’t go see in the playoffs they will fire him 

cardinals haven’t won sh*t 

IMO Murray is the most overrated QB in the nfl. 

[kdels62]

5 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I feel like there might come a point this offseason where trading Zack Wilson becomes a conversation for the Jets.

This is basically confirmation that Zach is gonna be here for 15 years.

[Beerfish]

The pats spent $160 mill guaranteed on fa this past year and they suck.

You have to have draft success 1st then you can get prime fa because prime guys will not come to the bad teams if a good one is offering ball park same.