Report: Deshaun Watson to Miami trade in the works

[Warfish]

7 minutes ago, JTJet said:

Yeah no. 

Theres quite a bit similar about how the two cases are being handled by both the NFL and the corporate media.

There were no actionable HR issues as you stated. Gruden sent those emails while he was not employed by the NFL or the Raiders. Gruden also only quit because it was essentially a hostage situation, basically "quit or we further tarnish your reputation". If this wasnt the NFL, he would easily win a lawsuit against his employer. Corporate media also immediately turned on the man disregarding the real story of the exploitation of the WFT cheerleaders. 

With Deshaun, while they are currently accusations of misconduct, he was employed by the Texans and the NFL at the time they supposedly occurred. Deshaun has seen zero action from the NFL, and from the NFLs own track record on punishment for these types of things, its extremely curious as to why he hasnt been punished yet (case in point Ezekiel Elliot). Corporate media blows him at every turn, and after the trade will sing his praises. 

Make no mistake. What Deshaun most likely did was infinitely worse than what Gruden did and it's not even remotely close. 

Gruden - Said some bad words in a private email  = Loses career/reputation.

Watson - Assaulted women = nothing. 

In both instances the NFL proves they dont give a sh*t about women. 

You're entitled to your view, but we're right on the edge of the rules of what is allowed here, so in respect to Max and my boy Crusher, I'm going leave it where it is, giving you the last word.  

[RutgersJetFan]

1 hour ago, munchmemory said:

Sounds like you've been missing a lot of work lately.

Well I wouldn't say I've been missing it Bob.

[kevinc855]

It’s happening

 

[playtowinthegame]

Thank you Joe Douglas for staying at #2 and picking #2.

[Hex]

38 minutes ago, Grandy said:

Watson trade rumors never disappoint. 

That would be funny if the dolphins sent their past 2 of 3 starting QBs to WFT within 6-9 months

[UnknownJetFan]

2 hours ago, slimjasi said:

I don't necessarily buy into Tua, but I think it's interesting how little time he has gotten in comparison to guys like Darnold and Trubisky. I get that he has major durability concerns, but he has like (13?) career starts. That's not even a full NFL season. People still argue over Sam's potential on this board and he's started 44 games. 

Sam's potential for what?. Leading the league in Turnovers INTs/Fumbles on average for the course of his career. Or potential for seeing more apparitions than the Ghostbusters could ever handle.

[T0mShane]

58 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Very very predictable.  A few of us have been saying this for a while now, dolphins are desperate.  They are supposed to be doing something this year and they are awful.

I love this as a jets fan even though i have always thought watson was really good.  Miami is going to trade away all of their future for a guy that can easily be not playing for a while.  (though the logical thing is to pay a bunch of hush money to make this all go away as is the norm these days.)

 

I think any team trading for Watson will have some prior knowledge of what (if any) punishment Goodell is going to hand down. 

[T0mShane]

45 minutes ago, JTJet said:

In both instances the NFL proves they dont give a sh*t about women.

Yes, but we knew this a long time ago. There’s an extensive track record of the league not caring about crimes against women. It’s despicable, but that’s how they roll.

[JustInFudge]

Great.  Watson and Allen in the division.  Awesome.  Fantastic.  Splendid.  Stupendous. 

 

 

[T0mShane]

Just now, JiFapono said:

Great.  Watson and Allen in the division.  Awesome.  Fantastic.  Splendid.  Stupendous. 

 

 

Don’t forget Mac Marino.

[JustInFudge]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Don’t forget Mac Marino.

Meh, I feel like Mac is who he is already.  Kind of unfair, as I say we dont know anything about the other rookies but I just dont see where else his game can go.  He is what he is.  I'm just glad Fields didnt fall to them, would be much more worried about his long term potential coupled with those other 2 MVP caliber QB's. 

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, JiFapono said:

Meh, I feel like Mac is who he is already.  Kind of unfair, as I say we dont know anything about the other rookies but I just dont see where else his game can go.  He is what he is.  I'm just glad Fields didnt fall to them, would be much more worried about his long term potential coupled with those other 2 MVP caliber QB's. 

Missile Mac Jones

[JustInFudge]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Missile Mac Jones

Lose the Jones, and that's kind of fire,  Missile Mac

but I like Water Pistol Jones much better. 

[Uncle Nicco]

8 minutes ago, JiFapono said:

Meh, I feel like Mac is who he is already.  Kind of unfair, as I say we dont know anything about the other rookies but I just dont see where else his game can go.  He is what he is.  I'm just glad Fields didnt fall to them, would be much more worried about his long term potential coupled with those other 2 MVP caliber QB's. 

Macaroni Jones 

[playtowinthegame]

10 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Missile Mac Jones

Missionary Mac

[bostonmajet]

2 hours ago, slimjasi said:

If you can get some kind of guarantee that he will eventually be able to play again beyond this year, a good argument can be made that it's worth it. Watson is that good. 

 

The problem I would have is - Say he has a big legal/civil ruling against him, how do I know he's not getting suspended for the 2022 season or beyond? I would need some sort of quiet handshake with the league office to give up multiple first round picks for Watson right now. 

I just don't know - Mahomes and Wilson (Russel) are great QBs, and they have look pedestrian at times because of the team that surrounds them. If Miami has to pay too much you get a guy with legal issues (who knows what else is out there) and a chip on his shoulder while sitting out a year of football. Not worth the cost, IMO.

[doitny]

2 hours ago, slimjasi said:

I would be asking for information pertaining to beyond this season. If he is eventually convicted of something but avoids jail time, can the NFL tack stuff on? etc. The Watson situation is still very poorly defined. 

i would hope for Watson sake he has some sort of deal for that cause whatever you want to call it..... he is serving his suspension now.

you not allow to practice or go to games. i think he just hangs in the locker room so he can get paid.

its like getting arrested and not being able to make bail. so you sit there for a year and then you see the judge and he sentences you to a year in jail. you have time severed. you dont do a year on top of that.

i just hope Carolina jumps in. only chance we got to keep him out of the AFC East

[Rhg1084]

2 hours ago, Big_Slick said:

Watson won 4 games last season on a crappy Texans team.

If Miami gives up three first round picks that'll set them back years. Fins will be in the same situation as Watson was in with the Texans. Super expensive QB contract, no high draft picks and going nowhere.

 

Miami’s offense already consists of Parker, Fuller, Waddle, Gsecki, and Gaskins. Much better than anything Houston put on the field that year. He would definitely elevate that to a top offense 

[juxsta]

43 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I think any team trading for Watson will have some prior knowledge of what (if any) punishment Goodell is going to hand down. 

This year, yes...But what if the legal issues ramp up in the offseason and result in severe league punishments? This could go real bad for whoever trades for him.

[More Cowbell]

2 hours ago, CanadienJetsFan said:

If a trade actually goes through, then that means they ( assuming it’s Miami) was given assurance that Watson will be suspended, not banned by NFL

If he is found guilty, there is no way je will play again. I mean talk about PR nightmares 

[Bronx]

3 hours ago, Spoot-Face said:

Not gonna happen.

Deshaun is gonna take one look at the Miami Massage Therapy staff picture and nix the deal.

 

EDIT: The guy in the top left might be into it, though.

Happy ending guaranteed.

[munchmemory]

1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Sounds like you've been missing a lot of work lately.

Well I wouldn't say I've been missing it Bob.

[T0mShane]

56 minutes ago, JiFapono said:

Lose the Jones, and that's kind of fire,  Missile Mac

but I like Water Pistol Jones much better. 

Seamus MacDimes

[T0mShane]

18 minutes ago, juxsta said:

This year, yes...But what if the legal issues ramp up in the offseason and result in severe league punishments? This could go real bad for whoever trades for him.

As in, there are other women out there who haven’t come forward yet?

[Beerfish]

If I was a Washington Football fan I would be utterly horrified at this.

[CanadaSteve]

2 hours ago, slimjasi said:

He can’t be both? 

I'm not sure....I'll check with Tom Shane.

 

[All Gas, No Gase]

3 hours ago, munchmemory said:

I'm just praying that Zack is able to recover from the dreaded Mahomes Effect.

Isn’t there any ointment for that?

[JoJoTownsell1]

4 hours ago, slimjasi said:

I don't necessarily buy into Tua, but I think it's interesting how little time he has gotten in comparison to guys like Darnold and Trubisky. I get that he has major durability concerns, but he has like (13?) career starts. That's not even a full NFL season. People still argue over Sam's potential on this board and he's started 44 games. 

If you watch Tua play you can see pretty quickly that he has a subpar arm and isn't particularly fast or elusive.

There are no redeeming traits that lead anyone to believe that greatness is around the corner.  So I don't blame the fish for looking to bring in a great young QB to replace him. 

With that said,  no one is kicking him out of the league.  He will get his Darnold/trubusky style chance around the league. It's possible that with the right team and coach he can be a winning qb but he is no deshaun Watson 

[GangGreened]

This would be a ****ing disaster. Some of you can do whatever mental gymnastics you want like “he’ll never play again” or “he only won 4 games last year” to make yourself feel better, but this would SUCK.

[Irish Jet]

Allen and Watson in the same division for a decade is just a nightmare.

Wilson has to be great.

[Lupz27]

4 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

 

This is the least surprising thing I’ve heard this year.

[Lupz27]

If this becomes official then the Jets have the worst QB in the division yet again oh happy days.

[dcJet]

You can't compare head coach transgressions with players transgressions.  Coaches are held to higher standards.

There will always be redemption offered to a 22 year old player effing up.  No excuse for a 50 year old coach.

[Ian Fleming]

4 hours ago, dbatesman said:

There’s been a report like this once a week for like six months now

Indeed. Two weeks ago, another report claimed it was hours if not days away from completion.

[The Crusher]

10 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

Allen and Watson in the same division for a decade is just a nightmare.

Wilson has to be great.

Uhhhh, Book it?