Report: Deshaun Watson to Miami trade in the works

[FTL Jet Fan]

2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Yes, that's the creepy part.  

He can hire all sort of escorts.  They're not hard to find and he has the money to afford the best in the world.

He is a sexual predator, that was looking for easy targets on which to prey....... 

They will all be paid off and the NFL will suspend Watson for a few games and it will be forgotten about. Think about some players who were able to continue to make millions after egregious criminal actions. This is an easy sweep under the rug unfortunately.

[Greensleeves]

4 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

Not really.

It's pretty much the same people already calling Tua finished as questioning ZW through 5 games.

Neither should be judged, even remotely yet. 

Look at FJ as the voice of reason!  

[Hex]

36 minutes ago, FTL Jet Fan said:

They will all be paid off and the NFL will suspend Watson for a few games and it will be forgotten about. Think about some players who were able to continue to make millions after egregious criminal actions. This is an easy sweep under the rug unfortunately.

I think the 1 difference is that the huge majority of players who were able to play after committing horrible crimes-- those were mostly one time events. The thing with Watson is he has multiple dozen women accusing him, but I do agree that at one point he will play again. 

[T0mShane]

3 hours ago, slats said:

The punishment will be proportional to the negative publicity and public outrage. It’s quiet right now but, if there is ever a trial, it could get very seriously ugly. I don’t think Goodell is currently in a position where he could honestly say what’s gonna happen. 
 
Also, the Texans are voluntarily keeping him inactive. I find it odd that he’s not already on the commissioner’s list, and suspect that might be a handshake deal with the league, the team, and the player - and that if he’s traded he’d have to continue his inactive streak. Watson stepping on the field would certainly ramp up the criticism the league is trying to tamp down. 

I think the big moment for ginning up an outrage cycle for Watson was after the Vrentas “Mary” article, and that stayed in the news for, like, a day and a half. Watson is a gross sex pest. That’s baked in, and everyone knows it. I think, whenever a trade happens, there won’t be much of an issue in whatever market he goes to unless there’s stuff that hasn’t come out already. And given that Buzbee has tried to settle with Team Watson a few times already, it seems unlikely he’s holding any more cards up his sleeve.

[defensedoesntgetyoulaid]

Here we go. Two videos to compare. Shannon and Skip. I don't generally watch these guys but I did see their segment about Gruden. Check out the body language and words they use when talking about Gruden. Then watch a little of the same guys discussing Watson going to the Dolphins. 

It isn't so much that they're discussing the trade possibility, they have to do that. It's the way they do it. Laughing, joking, basically focussing on what a great talent he is and how the Phins are right to move heaven and earth to get him. I didn't watch the whole thing but the portion I saw basically brushed the accusations of MORE THAN TWENTY WOMEN under the carpet. 

In short, they KNOW he will get off, and they don't give a damn if he's guilty or not. They want the story and the drama that comes with it.

I find this stuff fascinating. And again, this has zero to do with my feelings about Gruden. Never liked the guy. It's just a VERY recent example that jumps out at me because of how different the coverage has been.

 

 

 

[T0mShane]

33 minutes ago, defensedoesntgetyoulaid said:

Here we go. Two videos to compare. Shannon and Skip. I don't generally watch these guys but I did see their segment about Gruden. Check out the body language and words they use when talking about Gruden. Then watch a little of the same guys discussing Watson going to the Dolphins. 

It isn't so much that they're discussing the trade possibility, they have to do that. It's the way they do it. Laughing, joking, basically focussing on what a great talent he is and how the Phins are right to move heaven and earth to get him. I didn't watch the whole thing but the portion I saw basically brushed the accusations of MORE THAN TWENTY WOMEN under the carpet. 

In short, they KNOW he will get off, and they don't give a damn if he's guilty or not. They want the story and the drama that comes with it.

I find this stuff fascinating. And again, this has zero to do with my feelings about Gruden. Never liked the guy. It's just a VERY recent example that jumps out at me because of how different the coverage has been.

 

 

 

I have a theory that Gruden leaked the emails himself to get away from Mark Davis.

[Sperm Edwards]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

I have a theory that Gruden leaked the emails himself to get away from Mark Davis.

I have a theory that Gruden resigned because those weren't the only emails of his that they had (and maybe not even the worst). 

[slats]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

I think the big moment for ginning up an outrage cycle for Watson was after the Vrentas “Mary” article, and that stayed in the news for, like, a day and a half. Watson is a gross sex pest. That’s baked in, and everyone knows it. I think, whenever a trade happens, there won’t be much of an issue in whatever market he goes to unless there’s stuff that hasn’t come out already. And given that Buzbee has tried to settle with Team Watson a few times already, it seems unlikely he’s holding any more cards up his sleeve.

You might be right. Just seems that a trade would put the spotlight on it once again, and then when he steps foot on the field, one more time. Or a few times, as he plays on Sunday, Monday, or Thursday and all the networks take their piece of flesh. I guess Miami’s real bet would be on Watson not doing it again. Or not getting caught again. 

[Warfish]

19 hours ago, undertow said:

Believe all women....unless it's 46 of them and the dude is good at playing QB. lol

I don't think you understand what that phrase means.

It doesn't mean to automatically remove peoples rights to due process, or the need for due diligence, or to replace the courts of law with other entities.

I actually do believe the women, and believe that Watson did what is accused.  I could care less how good of a QB he is, and I don't want him on my Jets.  I'm hardly a Watson apologist.

[Jet Life]

Creepy guy but great player. Hopefully he goes to prison so he can’t go to Miami 

[FidelioJet]

3 minutes ago, Jet Life said:

Creepy guy but great player. Hopefully he goes to prison so he can’t go to Miami 

I love that your priority is him going to prison so he won't play in our division. 

Not so he can't sexually assault any more women.

[Barry McCockinner]

12 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

I love that your priority is him going to prison so he won't play in our division. 

Not so he can't sexually assault any more women.

well, that too

[undertow]

35 minutes ago, Warfish said:

I don't think you understand what that phrase means.

It doesn't mean to automatically remove peoples rights to due process, or the need for due diligence, or to replace the courts of law with other entities.

I actually do believe the women, and believe that Watson did what is accused.  I could care less how good of a QB he is, and I don't want him on my Jets.  I'm hardly a Watson apologist.

innocent until proven guilty was a main tenet of Metoo?  I must have missed that.

[Jet Life]

35 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

I love that your priority is him going to prison so he won't play in our division. 

Not so he can't sexually assault any more women.

That was a given!! He can’t do that if he’s locked in a cell!

[Warfish]

8 minutes ago, undertow said:

innocent until proven guilty was a main tenet of Metoo?  I must have missed that.

I think you've likely missed quite a bit, but to each their own.

[bla bla bla]

22 hours ago, xboxjets said:

There is no way Watson gets traded and doesn't get a new contract and it wont be cheap. 

He just got his contract last year. Why would he get a new deal? 

[jamesr]

39 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

He just got his contract last year. Why would he get a new deal? 

Because Miami will want to protect themselves from any potential fallout.   

[DetroitRed]

20 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

Yes, that's the creepy part.  

He can hire all sort of escorts.  They're not hard to find and he has the money to afford the best in the world.

He is a sexual predator, that was looking for easy targets on which to prey....... 

Well, then if any of them have any pride and integrity, they won't take money in lieu of justice.  Have a criminal trial.  

[DetroitRed]

16 hours ago, Warfish said:

I don't think you understand what that phrase means.

It doesn't mean to automatically remove peoples rights to due process, or the need for due diligence, or to replace the courts of law with other entities.

I actually do believe the women, and believe that Watson did what is accused.  I could care less how good of a QB he is, and I don't want him on my Jets.  I'm hardly a Watson apologist.

What does it mean?  

[Jets Things]

4 minutes ago, DetroitRed said:

Well, then if any of them have any pride and integrity, they won't take money in lieu of justice.  Have a criminal trial.  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[munchmemory]

9 minutes ago, DetroitRed said:

Well, then if any of them have any pride and integrity, they won't take money in lieu of justice.  Have a criminal trial.  

It's not the women's call whether to hold a trial or not.  That's the function of the DA.

Historically, the problem for women has been that they are either ignored or their claims not believed.  So, their only recourse is a civil trial, where they hope to inflict monetary damages.   I'd bet the women accusing Watson would prefer a criminal trial in front of a judge and jury.

[FidelioJet]

11 minutes ago, DetroitRed said:

Well, then if any of them have any pride and integrity, they won't take money in lieu of justice.  Have a criminal trial.  

So, to be clear.  So, he's not guilty because the women will take take millions of dollars instead of opening their lives up to ridicule (much like you're doing now) in order to assure he goes to prison?

[Maynard13]

20 hours ago, FTL Jet Fan said:

They will all be paid off and the NFL will suspend Watson for a few games and it will be forgotten about. Think about some players who were able to continue to make millions after egregious criminal actions. This is an easy sweep under the rug unfortunately.

Some people just get away with the damnedest things. Macc portraying a GM, Adams portraying a safety. And then there’s - I’ll stop there. 

[DetroitRed]

7 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

So, to be clear.  So, he's not guilty because the women will take take millions of dollars instead of opening their lives up to ridicule (much like you're doing now) in order to assure he goes to prison?

Never said any of that.  So no reason to ask for clarity.

 

If the evidence is there, have a criminal trial

 

 

[Irish Jet]

28 minutes ago, DetroitRed said:

Well, then if any of them have any pride and integrity, they won't take money in lieu of justice.  Have a criminal trial.  

Jesus.

[Ben Had]

I refuse to let this rub me the wrong way!

[Jetsfan80]

5 hours ago, Ben Had said:

I refuse to let this rub me the wrong way!

Of course not.  Floridians have no shame.  ?

[bla bla bla]

6 hours ago, jamesr said:

Because Miami will want to protect themselves from any potential fallout.   

Ah I see, I'd have to imagine for a deal to happen there will be contingencies built into the trade. Recoup draft picks etc

[peebag]

On 10/21/2021 at 11:54 AM, Hex said:

I think the 1 difference is that the huge majority of players who were able to play after committing horrible crimes-- those were mostly one time events. The thing with Watson is he has multiple dozen women accusing him, but I do agree that at one point he will play again. 

Ben Rapistburger says Hi!

[faba]

Ask me am I afraid of this- the answer hello no

[Ben Had]

24 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Of course not.  Floridians have no shame.  ?

Hell I know...guess I'll have to get a #4 jersey and head down to the south shore bath houses...

It's all good.

[k-met57]

7 hours ago, bla bla bla said:

He just got his contract last year. Why would he get a new deal? 

because thats the new thing now....u sign a contract, get your bonus, ask to be traded, and sign a brand new deal....you know "get the double bag"

[JTJet]

4 minutes ago, k-met57 said:

because thats the new thing now....u sign a contract, get your bonus, ask to be traded, and sign a brand new deal....you know "get the double bag"

I've given plenty the ol "double bag"... 

[DetroitRed]

If you going to be locked up for years, you have to have the opportunity to face your accusers.  Don't know if he is guilty or not, but he should not be sent to jail or lose his job forever, without the alleged victims coming forward and telling their stories

[Larz]

23 minutes ago, DetroitRed said:

If you going to be locked up for years, you have to have the opportunity to face your accusers.  Don't know if he is guilty or not, but he should not be sent to jail or lose his job forever, without the alleged victims coming forward and telling their stories

That’s exactly how I feel and it’s super frustrating too see these things get “tried” on social media.