Beerfish Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 On Thursday, Judge acknowledged it's on him to right the ship. "I'm the head coach. It's my responsibility. Point blank," the coach said, via Art Stapleton of The Record. "Every player on this field, every position group, the execution, it all comes down to me. The fish stinks from the head down. I've been taught that by great guys I've worked for and played for. There's no excuses." what the hell? What's he got against fish!?!?!? 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Saleh won’t like his NY brother doing this to him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post munchmemory Posted October 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2021 Judge out the door with Gettleman after this season. Another bum from NE. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoJoTownsell1 Posted October 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2021 Bellichick and his disciples record WITHOUT Brady is beyond awful. They all talk this great, tough guy game. They all treat the media like idiots (which may not be a bad thing) and they all lose at astonishing rates. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Larz Posted October 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2021 Captain cliche 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Larz said: Captain cliche Next week at the Judge Press Conference: The "we didn't get it done" diatribe. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I'd rather he say that than Saleh who blamed the players and offensive coordinator for the offenses bad performances. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 26 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Bellichick and his disciples record WITHOUT Brady is beyond awful. They all talk this great, tough guy game. They all treat the media like idiots (which may not be a bad thing) and they all lose at astonishing rates. Belichick's winning percentage without Brady is a full 10% higher than Bill Walsh without Montana/Young. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpain Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 He just seems in over his head and i dont see it changing any time soon. He seems like a guy who would be a great special teams coach on any staff but HC just isnt his strong point. I think a lot of coaches fall in this category. Bowles better as a DC, Gase should never have been more than an OC, ect I think hes losing his locker room and that is tough or impossible to get back. And its the Giants so F them anyway ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, jgb said: Belichick's winning percentage without Brady is a full 10% higher than Bill Walsh without Montana/Young. Lmao. Do you care to share the amount of games Walsh coached without those 2 vs bellichick without Brady? Bellichicks record of futility without Brady is significantly greater. But I give you credit for trying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, munchmemory said: Judge out the door with Gettleman after this season. Another bum from NE. “Rebuilding the right way” never works. The Giants won Super Bowls because they had the balls to tamper and trade up to get Eli Manning. Just like the Jets and Joe Namath. Just like the Jets and Bill Parcells. You would think these teams could figure it out. Football is an aggressive sport, that isn’t just on the field. Owners who break conventional rules win championships. SAR I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I knew that Joe Judge was a pile of sh*t when he spoke to a rookie who was just drafted. I think it was Andrew Thomas. I don't recall exactly how the call went but he was a Debbie Downer and didn't even let the kid be excited about getting drafted to an NFL team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: On Thursday, Judge acknowledged it's on him to right the ship. "I'm the head coach. It's my responsibility. Point blank," the coach said, via Art Stapleton of The Record. "Every player on this field, every position group, the execution, it all comes down to me. The fish stinks from the head down. I've been taught that by great guys I've worked for and played for. There's no excuses." what the hell? What's he got against fish!?!?!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 he should try burying a football in the endzone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: I knew that Joe Judge was a pile of sh*t when he spoke to a rookie who was just drafted. I think it was Andrew Thomas. I don't recall exactly how the call went but he was a Debbie Downer and didn't even let the kid be excited about getting drafted to an NFL team. IIRC, he told Thomas not to tell the media about whether he would play left tackle in the pros or something. Every rookie was told what questions they were allowed to answer and they all seemed miserable on draft day. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 I’d like to take more joy in Judge failing but I also realize that there’s a roughly 70% chance this will be us next year at this time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 11 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Lmao. Do you care to share the amount of games Walsh coached without those 2 vs bellichick without Brady? Bellichicks record of futility without Brady is significantly greater. But I give you credit for trying. What exactly am I "trying?" I posted the figures you are asking for in the Belichick winning percentage thread. You can also compile them yourself from pro-football-reference.com, like I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 The head of the FIsh in the Giants case is Tish and Mara. He's immediate boss is Gettleman. Judge is more like fish dick on the Giants food chain. Personally I never take responsability when my dick makes a decision but that's me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Surprised this other Judge nugget wasn't mentioned....."results are the most deceiving thing in mankind." This after the 35-11 loss vs Rams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kolchak Posted October 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2021 I really thought the whole tennis ball thing would revolutionize football. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 16 hours ago, jgb said: Belichick's winning percentage without Brady is a full 10% higher than Bill Walsh without Montana/Young. Bill Walsh has one of the greatest coaching trees in NFL history. He took over a SF team that hadn't been to the playoffs for 6 straight years. BB took over a Cleveland team that went to the playoffs 5 of the last 6 years before he got there. He took over a NE team that went to the playoffs 3 of the previous 4 years before he arrived and was 8 and 8 the year before he arrived. Walsh invented the modern day passing game. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, Biggs said: Bill Walsh has one of the greatest coaching trees in NFL history. He took over a SF team that hadn't been to the playoffs for 6 straight years. BB took over a Cleveland team that went to the playoffs 5 of the last 6 years before he got there. He took over a NE team that went to the playoffs 3 of the previous 4 years before he arrived and was 8 and 8 the year before he arrived. Walsh invented the modern day passing game. Oh I'm not arguing Walsh sucks, only that winning percentage without HOF QB is at best an overly-simplistic measure of a HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, jgb said: Oh I'm not arguing Walsh sucks, only that winning percentage without HOF QB is at best an overly-simplistic measure of a HC. You should take a look at Young's numbers before he was mentored by Walsh. He wasn't going to sniff the HOF without Walsh. Montana was a great QB and probably would have been great anywhere but Walsh's system might have had something to do with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Biggs said: You should take a look at Young's numbers before he was mentored by Walsh. He wasn't going to sniff the HOF without Walsh. Montana was a great QB and probably would have been great anywhere but Walsh's system might have had something to do with it. I think we are violently agreeing that a Coach's greatness goes far beyond what their winning percentage is without a HOF QB Likewise some credit does have to be given to Little Bill for developing Brady. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 It is great to take responsibility but the Giants roster is just as bad as ours. We can blame the coaches and the system, but you can't ignore or exempt sucky ass players on their rosters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 18 hours ago, Beerfish said: On Thursday, Judge acknowledged it's on him to right the ship. "I'm the head coach. It's my responsibility. Point blank," the coach said, via Art Stapleton of The Record. "Every player on this field, every position group, the execution, it all comes down to me. The fish stinks from the head down. I've been taught that by great guys I've worked for and played for. There's no excuses." what the hell? What's he got against fish!?!?!? Is that even an accurate factual statement? I've not been around enough stinky fish to know for sure, but I would imagine the whole fish stinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 19 hours ago, Beerfish said: On Thursday, Judge acknowledged it's on him to right the ship. "I'm the head coach. It's my responsibility. Point blank," the coach said, via Art Stapleton of The Record. "Every player on this field, every position group, the execution, it all comes down to me. The fish stinks from the head down. I've been taught that by great guys I've worked for and played for. There's no excuses." what the hell? What's he got against fish!?!?!? I am thinking the Dolphins and Giants might be 2 of the teams hiring a head coach at the end of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Daniel Jones would be a nice get for Jets if Giants change regimes that brings in a QB of their choosing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 minute ago, johnnysd said: I am thinking the Dolphins and Giants might be 2 of the teams hiring a head coach at the end of the year. Yeah, they will both be in the running to hire the Patriots Assistant Equipment Managers as their next Head Coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 18 hours ago, Barton said: I'd rather he say that than Saleh who blamed the players and offensive coordinator for the offenses bad performances. but its the players who play. way should they get off. a coach can only do so much. sometimes the player has to get his head out of his ass, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: Is that even an accurate factual statement? I've not been around enough stinky fish to know for sure, but I would imagine the whole fish stinks. Pretty sure the actual saying is that a fish rots from the head down. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 46 minutes ago, johnnysd said: I am thinking the Dolphins and Giants might be 2 of the teams hiring a head coach at the end of the year. and the Panthers too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defensedoesntgetyoulaid Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 I thought the fish stinks from the ass up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, doitny said: but its the players who play. way should they get off. a coach can only do so much. sometimes the player has to get his head out of his ass, Head coach has to be a leader and blame himself for a teams failures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Slick Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Bronx said: It is great to take responsibility but the Giants roster is just as bad as ours. We can blame the coaches and the system, but you can't ignore or exempt sucky ass players on their rosters. Gettlemen is worse than JD at picking players. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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