David Harris Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Five Things I Think I Think About the Miami Dolphins - Week 7 2021 - The Phinsider Gesicki needs to be resigned Anyone who’s read anything I’ve written since we drafted Mike Gesicki knows I’m so far on the Mike G train that I have the little conductor hat and everything. I’m as biased as they come and I don’t care that you care. That being said, each week he seems like the only guy out there consistently trying his hardest. He catches whatever’s thrown his way, fights for first downs, and (whether or not you agree with his timing based on the score) tries to fire the team up. I’m going to quote frequent Phinsider commenter Francesco, who I think will admit to not being a big Gesicki fan when he was first on the team. He said: “The only player who have character in the offense is Gesicki ... Thats why they dont want him.” And Fran, you couldn’t be more right. We blew our wad resigning Jerome Baker just for him to be sucked into the void of regression instead of giving that money to Gesicki. All is not lost, however. We aren’t poor. We aren’t Seong Gi-hun. Gesicki will be a free agent next year and the Fins are projected to have ~$79 million in cap space to work with. His Spotrac Market Value is $10.5m per year. With how he’s been underutilized in Miami, I doubt he gives any sort of hometown discount if he hits the market. If I’m the GM (Grier or otherwise), I work to sign him now with a fair deal structured with some incentives. Or pay him $79m, IDGAF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Had Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Rumor is the Saints want him bad.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ben Had said: Rumor is the Saints want him bad.... The Saints can't afford a water boy let alone an actual rostered player right now. They have the worst cap situation in the league this year and next. And they may need to think about paying Winston next year which means big cuts almost have to be coming. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 He’ll get franchise tagged. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 5 hours ago, David Harris said: Anyone who’s read anything I’ve written since we drafted Mike Gesicki knows I’m so far on the Mike G train that I have the little conductor hat and everything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I do not know how they are against the cap but if they have to pay for Watson, there will be a better chance that they cant resign him. But if your alluding he might wind up on the jets, that aint happening. The Jets will be using one of their many high draft picks on a tight end. There is no reason to make geisicki one of the highest paid tight ends in the league when we can just draft one. Geisicki is also one dimensional so we can probably find a better all around tight end in the 1st or 2nd round of the draft. The Waydenmeyer kid or whatever his name is. Hes a total stud. We might target him w/ Seattles 1st rounder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 12 hours ago, T0mShane said: I guess I’ve re-signed myself to reading taking this prose seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kdels62 Posted October 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: I do not know how they are against the cap but if they have to pay for Watson, there will be a better chance that they cant resign him. But if your alluding he might wind up on the jets, that aint happening. The Jets will be using one of their many high draft picks on a tight end. There is no reason to make geisicki one of the highest paid tight ends in the league when we can just draft one. Geisicki is also one dimensional so we can probably find a better all around tight end in the 1st or 2nd round of the draft. The Waydenmeyer kid or whatever his name is. Hes a total stud. We might target him w/ Seattles 1st rounder. There is so much wrong with this post that I love it. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: I do not know how they are against the cap but if they have to pay for Watson, there will be a better chance that they cant resign him. But if your alluding he might wind up on the jets, that aint happening. The Jets will be using one of their many high draft picks on a tight end. There is no reason to make geisicki one of the highest paid tight ends in the league when we can just draft one. Geisicki is also one dimensional so we can probably find a better all around tight end in the 1st or 2nd round of the draft. The Waydenmeyer kid or whatever his name is. Hes a total stud. We might target him w/ Seattles 1st rounder. I agree I wouldn’t make Mike the highest paid TE because he’s not a complete player and in our scheme he would need to block more. But Christ draft a TE???? I hope not I really pray we sign one, don’t trust our GM drafting the right one because with the luck we have, all the TE’s taken after we select one will be better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 There are a few starting caliber TEs that might make it to the open market. Not sure if Gesicki is one of them though. The Dolphins have two expensive CBs and that’s really it. They should have space for Gesicki even if they trade for Watson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 19 hours ago, David Harris said: I’m going to quote frequent Phinsider commenter Francesco, who I think will admit to not being a big Gesicki fan when he was first on the team. He said: “The only player who have character in the offense is Gesicki ... Thats why they dont want him.” And Fran, you couldn’t be more right. Some piece of fact based reporting going on at Phininsider. Sounds a lot like Jetsinsider back in the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I want the Jets to sign AND draft a TE in the 2nd or 3rd round. We do not have a number 1 or number 2 TE. ML insist on using two TEs. We need to pick up two TE's this offseason. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 19 hours ago, Ben Had said: Rumor is the Saints want him bad.... So, we want him bad and have the money to sign him, the Saints dont have 2 nickels to rub together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, GreenFish said: I want the Jets to sign AND draft a TE in the 2nd or 3rd round. We do not have a number 1 or number 2 TE. ML insist on using two TEs. We need to pick up two TE's this offseason. At least two, honestly. I kind of think they need to pick up three. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, derp said: At least two, honestly. I kind of think they need to pick up three. Agreed. The current TE group is abysmal, it needs to be totally turned over. I think they need to get a diverse group that fills the multiple roles this offense needs. If they don’t bring in a FB you need a TE that can play out of the backfield, you need the inline traditional guy and a move TE that can flex out. Right now the Jets have pretty much nothing at the position and the guys they have are pretty much the same plodding, non-athletic slugs. It’s a good draft to fill these roles though, and I suspect there will continue to be numerous discussions and debates in the draft forum regarding these guys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 20 hours ago, nycdan said: The Saints can't afford a water boy let alone an actual rostered player right now. They have the worst cap situation in the league this year and next. And they may need to think about paying Winston next year which means big cuts almost have to be coming. Yet those mfs always seem to get more money, watch out for Terron Armstead, we should break the bank for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said: Yet those mfs always seem to get more money, watch out for Terron Armstead, we should break the bank for him. They went nuts trying to keep Ramczyk and Lattimore this offseason while dealing with Brees coming off the books. But they are screwed next year. More than $50M over the cap at a projected cap of $208M. Even if the cap goes up $20M more than that, they still have to cut and restructure like crazy just to keep their heads above water. I can't see them making any big signings, especially for a non-premium position. But who knows...as you said, teams always do seem to slip out of these situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I'd be shocked if he hit the open market. Hoping one of the TEs hit FA, Howard, Njoku, Gesicki, Ertz. I'm sure there are more I don't know as well too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 21 hours ago, nycdan said: The Saints can't afford a water boy let alone an actual rostered player right now. They have the worst cap situation in the league this year and next. And they may need to think about paying Winston next year which means big cuts almost have to be coming. Last year we were told the Chiefs didn't have enough cap space to buy a new PS5. Roughly ten minutes later they handed out about a trillion dollars in extensions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I would consider trading for Foster Moreau. That guy is buried behind Waller, but I think he can play….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Yes, I can see LeFleur salivating for him very badly so he can convert him to a blocking TE. Then Gesicki would never end seeing the field because he didn't know every offensive line position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harris5214 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 He’s going to get paid if he keeps his pace up and stays healthy. Def more than the two TEs the patriots signed last off season. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 He was one of my favorite players in that class and I wanted him to either be a Jet or land outside the division. So much for that. Is Miami dumb enough to let him go? I'd imagine not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 4 hours ago, bla bla bla said: I'd be shocked if he hit the open market. Hoping one of the TEs hit FA, Howard, Njoku, Gesicki, Ertz. I'm sure there are more I don't know as well too. Only young quality guy on that list is Gesicki. Njoku is the most talented but isnt consistent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 56 minutes ago, David Harris said: Only young quality guy on that list is Gesicki. Njoku is the most talented but isnt consistent I do want to add a TE in the top 3 rounds as well so I won't be too beat up if we sign Ertz or Howard. I'd have to imagine the Browns will try to retain Njoku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted October 24, 2021 Author Share Posted October 24, 2021 4 hours ago, bla bla bla said: I do want to add a TE in the top 3 rounds as well so I won't be too beat up if we sign Ertz or Howard. I'd have to imagine the Browns will try to retain Njoku. I dunno, they drafted some other guys and I think Njoku as a former first rounder is looking for a place where he can be the guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 10 hours ago, AFJF said: Last year we were told the Chiefs didn't have enough cap space to buy a new PS5. Roughly ten minutes later they handed out about a trillion dollars in extensions. Correct, if teams want a player bad enough they dump someone else and find a way to get that cap space. Ever year the jets fans drool that we have the most cap space in the league and list off all the prime fa's we are getting, 2/3 of them resign to teams that 'have no cap space' and the last 3rd has the whole league after them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 If the Jets had a tight end as reliable as him it would be much easier for Wilson to run the offense. It doesn’t have to be him just somebody on his level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/23/2021 at 12:22 AM, T0mShane said: "Out there trying his hardest". Gotta' be a 12 y/o. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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