Bronx Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- A look at what's happening around the New York Jets: 1. Holiday shopping: Sunday is National Tight Ends Day on the NFL calendar. Yes, it's kind of a thing. As usual, the Jets have no reason to celebrate it. Continuing one of the Jetsiest traditions, the front office failed in the offseason to supply the offense with a reliable, pass-catching tight end. The lack of a middle-field threat is hurting quarterback Zach Wilson, but there might be a way to rectify the problem. A handful of tight ends could become available as the Nov. 2 trading deadline approaches -- most notably, Evan Engram (New York Giants), O.J. Howard (Tampa Bay Buccaneers), Hayden Hurst (Atlanta Falcons) and Drew Sample (Cincinnati Bengals). Engram, Howard and Hurst are intriguing because they're former first-round picks, all under the age of 29. The downside: They're in contract years, so you're talking about a two-month rental. Sample, a 2019 second-round pick, is signed through 2022. At 1-4, the Jets figure to be sellers, not buyers, at the deadline, but they shouldn't be so quick to dismiss a potential add at tight end. If the price is right, they could pair one with Wilson to see if there's chemistry. If it clicks, they can always explore a contract extension before free agency. Call it a test drive. If not now, it has to be on general manager Joe Douglas’ to-do list in the offseason. For a decade, the tight-end play has been a joke. Their last legitimate receiving threat was Dustin Keller (2011). From 2012 until now, their tight ends have produced a league-low 4,747 yards -- nearly 1,000 yards less than the next-worst team (Arizona Cardinals, 5,714). It’s almost like the Jets are playing with 10 men every week. They took a Band-Aid approach last offseason. After showing interest in free agent Jonnu Smith, who wound up signing a four-year, $50 million contract with the New England Patriots, the Jets added the injury-prone Tyler Kroft on a cheap deal (one year, $2 million). Guess what? Kroft is injured. Returning starter Chris Herndon was so bad in training camp that he was traded to the Minnesota Vikings. It’s no wonder the Jets’ tight ends have only 95 yards, next-to-last in the league. The Jets have 10 draft picks in 2022. It’s not Douglas’ style to trade a future asset for a quick fix, but it could work if he swaps a player on an expiring contract, perhaps safety Marcus Maye or wide receiver Jamison Crowder. It's worth exploring. 2. Corey story: Corey Davis considers himself a No. 1 receiver. At $12.5 million per year, he's certainly being paid like one. To truly validate that status, he needs to catch the ball more consistently. He already has five dropped passes, more than any wide receiver in the league, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Davis isn't known as a bad-hands guy -- five ties a career high -- so you have to believe it's just a slump. He's probably pressing, trying too hard to boost the sagging offense. "Obviously, I don't want to drop passes, but it happens," said Davis, adding that he's doing extra work in practice. Davis isn't alone. The Jets have a total of 12 drops, tied for the second-most. That's not a good way to help your rookie quarterback. 3. Answer man: Problem-solving is a big part of every coach's job. Robert Saleh's problem-solving skills will be in the spotlight on Sunday against the Patriots. The biggest issue, of course, is the late-starting offense. The Jets have zero points and only 79 total yards in the first quarter of games. On defense, they have to figure out a way to offset the game plan introduced by the Falcons in the last game -- a lot of quick throws to neutralize their pass rush. Saleh described it as a complete departure by the Falcons. Other teams will go to school on that. Saleh, who studied the problems over the bye week, is confident he and the staff came up with solutions. We'll find out soon enough. Unfortunately for him, he's facing a coach -- Bill Belichick -- who will create new problems for him. 4. Belichick who? Former Jets coaches Todd Bowles and Eric Mangini beat Bill Belichick on their second try. Rex Ryan and Herm Edwards did it in their first attempt. Adam Gase never beat him, but he didn't beat too many coaches, period. Now Saleh gets his second crack at the Hoodie. Saleh struck a noticeably different tone during the run-up to Sunday's rematch, compared to the previous meeting. In Week 2, he gushed about Belichick, saying it was "an honor to share the same field as him." This time, Saleh was more businesslike. "No disrespect to Bill, who's one of the greatest ever, but he's an external motivation that doesn't matter," said Saleh, explaining that his motivation comes from within. It's a far cry from Ryan's famous bravado, but it conveys a stronger message than the Week 2 gush-fest. 5. Empty pick pocket: The Jets will intercept a pass one of these days, right? They're the sixth team since 2000 to start a season with at least five straight games without intercepting a pass. The Houston Texans did it last year, the Arizona Cardinals in 2019. The Las Vegas Raiders' 10-game streak (2017) is the longest in NFL history to start a season, and it also happens to be tied with the 1976-1977 San Francisco 49ers for the longest streak, period. Because they failed to record a pick in the final two games last season, the Jets' active streak actually is seven. Four more games without an interception and they will make the wrong kind of history. Which happens first, an interception or a first-quarter score? 6. Did you know? Defensive tackle Nathan Shepherd leads the team with five penalties, an absurd amount when you consider his position and lack of playing time -- only 127 defensive snaps. Do the math: that's one penalty every 25 snaps, a ratio that screams, "Bench me!" Players with marginal talent shouldn't be allowed to hurt the team that many times. 7. Vanishing running back: The Denzel Mims saga has overshadowed another former draft pick who can't get on the field -- running back La'Mical Perine, a 2020 fourth-round choice. He was a healthy scratch in the first five games. Drafted for a different system, he got lost in transition. Maybe he will see the field Sunday because Tevin Coleman is questionable after injuring a hamstring Friday in practice. 8. Less of Moore: When the Jets drafted wide receiver Elijah Moore in the second round, they described him as a "gadget guy" who could fill a Deebo Samuel-like role -- an explosive wide receiver who could be used in the running game. That hasn't materialized. Noting the size difference between Moore (5-foot-10, 178 pounds) and the San Francisco 49ers' receiver (6-foot, 215), offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur said to use Moore "in the backfield and have him play between the tackles isn't necessarily the greatest thing in the world." He's right, but he should be able to cook up creative ways to get Moore the ball. The offense needs the spark. 9. One of these days: The Jets haven't defeated the Patriots in 2,129 days -- not since Dec. 27, 2015. The slump is basically old enough to have served a complete term in the U.S. Senate. 10. The last word: "I looked at myself hard to figure out how we can get this offense jump-started. ... Over the bye week, I gave it to my wife and said, 'You pick the opening script, and we'll go from there.'" -- LaFleur, joking about the 24-play script he uses for every game. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 i would throw a pick at a team looking to ship a productive TE to the jets just for the sake of Zach's last 10 games. That being said, we will do much better addressing TE in the draft, and we will. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 If we could stop assigning ages to events and talking about what they're old enough to accomplish if they were a person that would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, k-met57 said: i would throw a pick at a team looking to ship a productive TE to the jets just for the sake of Zach's last 10 games. That being said, we will do much better addressing TE in the draft, and we will. If we traded for Cole Kmet, you'd be in heaven, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Wonder in the history of the trade deadline, how many teams with an under .400 winning%, made trades to add players 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 JD as a buyer to improve the team ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Bronx said: For a decade, the tight-end play has been a joke. Their last legitimate receiving threat was Dustin Keller (2011). From 2012 until now, their tight ends have produced a league-low 4,747 yards -- nearly 1,000 yards less than the next-worst team (Arizona Cardinals, 5,714). It’s almost like the Jets are playing with 10 men every week. The Jets have had crappy everything for a decade. They haven’t sniffed the playoffs in that long, a streak twice as long as any other team in the league. Their WRs have been bad, their QBs and their OL, too. But sure, Rich, let’s blame it on the lowest paid position on offense because that’s a thing, right? Dumb and lazy. That said… 1 hour ago, Bronx said: The Jets have 10 draft picks in 2022. It’s not Douglas’ style to trade a future asset for a quick fix, but it could work if he swaps a player on an expiring contract, perhaps safety Marcus Maye or wide receiver Jamison Crowder. It's worth exploring. I’d trade one expiring contract for another in an effort to give Zach another big target. I wouldn’t trade draft picks, and I wouldn’t expect to want to resign any of these busts/reclamation projects, but neither Crowder nor Maye will be on the team next year, might as well see if you can help the offense get its **** together. I’d gladly take a starting caliber guard, too. 1 hour ago, Bronx said: [Corey Davis] already has five dropped passes, more than any wide receiver in the league, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Davis isn't known as a bad-hands guy -- five ties a career high -- so you have to believe it's just a slump. He's probably pressing, trying too hard to boost the sagging offense. "Obviously, I don't want to drop passes, but it happens," said Davis, adding that he's doing extra work in practice. Davis isn't alone. The Jets have a total of 12 drops, tied for the second-most. That's not a good way to help your rookie quarterback. This is a symptom of the whole rookie coach/OC/QB all learning a new system at the same time. Everyone is thinking too much, then when it doesn’t work, they start pressing. Zach misses easy throws, and receivers miss the passes that get there. This is a far cry from Mac Jones plugging and playing in an offense that’s been doing the same things for two decades. It’s also something that should correct itself as the players get more comfortable in the system and just play rather than think. These are the growing pains, and they’ve been ugly. Sucks that they have to deal with whatever Belichick has in store for them out of the bye, but just some first quarter points this week would go a long way. Maybe an interception on defense? They have to start turning around some of these negative trends this week. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68JET11 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Bronx said: The Jets have 10 draft picks in 2022. It’s not Douglas’ style to trade a future asset for a quick fix, but it could work if he swaps a player on an expiring contract, perhaps safety Marcus Maye or wide receiver Jamison Crowder. It's worth exploring. YES, YES, and one more YES.... Trade either for a TE or RG... Or trade one for a TE, and the other for a RG. I'm sure you'll have tons of adoring JN fans if you're to do this JD ? Maybe even JETSY and SAR might come around lmao... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Bronx said: 9. One of these days: The Jets haven't defeated the Patriots in 2,129 days -- not since Dec. 27, 2015. The slump is basically old enough to have served a complete term in the U.S. Senate. Seems like yesterday Eric Decker, Brandon Marshall and Ryan Fitzpatrick led us to that win. Thank you Mike Maccagnan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 That was fun to read before game day, fcksake 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 win team being buyers at the trade deadline? lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rox Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 If we make a move for anyone - i hope his name is O.J. Howard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 10 picks is enough m. We know 5/6 won’t even be factors. Try for once buying JD instead of selling. Help the young QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Does adding an established TE that has a high upside on a 10 game rental help Zach? If the answer is yes, and I believe it is, then I think it's worth considering given the amount of picks and money we have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Hopefully it's for someone signed longer than this year. BTW- I don't want Hurst. He fumbled like 5 times in England. If we could've recovered one the game might've been a different outcome. You just know he'll lose every one of them if he's wearing green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 hour ago, rox said: If we make a move for anyone - i hope his name is O.J. Howard. Why? The guy sucks. He's big, strong and fast. Also sucks at being a football player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rox Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 41 minutes ago, Barton said: Why? The guy sucks. He's big, strong and fast. Also sucks at being a football player. He's better than any TE we have on our current roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Gastineau Lives said: If we traded for Cole Kmet, you'd be in heaven, no? there is no part of me that thinks that Cole Kmet is some type of a difference maker. He has 373 career receiving yards in 1 and a half (about seasons). That being said...sure...what are you trading for him? i can give you a long list of guys i'd take for a late pick. our best chance is still to draft a true difference making TE in the draft. i rather give up a 3 and draft a guy who can become Kelce than give up a 3 and get Kmet back. before the "what are the odds we draft Kelce" argument....if we cant draft well...none of this matters anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Honestly I think Corey Davis doesn’t really mind dropping passes. It happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 No to jag tes that have underachieved enough to get traded. How about if Douglas actually uses some picks on TES? I mean i know it is a total novelty but hey you hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Zachtion Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 The Jets need 2 TEs so if a rental looks good you can extend them and still draft your TE1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Barton said: Why? The guy sucks. He's big, strong and fast. Also sucks at being a football player. Is he gholston 2.0 or is he stuck behind some stars on a win now team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 3 hours ago, JiFapono said: 1 win team being buyers at the trade deadline? lol no kidding ...its hilarious to even think the Jets would sign a TE at the trading deadline. This team should sign no one at this point in their development before the TD. This team needs to go into the draft with TE and WR and RB in mind and fill holes with known players in FA,. Losing teams are not buyers at this point in time especially teams still trying to get comfortable in a new scheme which they obviously have not done yet. FWIW Joe Douglas would make himself look like an Idiot if he pursues a TE at this stage when it was a known need in Training camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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