Popular Post Jetsbb Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 I noticed pregame a guy with a Jets hat on I never saw before that looked a lot like John Beck. I took this blurry snippet of him from gamepass when the camera panned to the sideline. I wouldn't put it pass the Jets to hire him and not announce it like they did with Cavenaugh. 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post TokyoJetsFan Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 That really does look like him lol. He also knows Lefleur... Zach Wilson told the media this week that he plans to work with his close friend and mentor John Beck during his bye week on the basics. The question is, why not have John Beck around all the time helping Wilson as a member of the New York Jets? In April, during the NFL draft process, when asked about potentially joining an NFL coaching staff, here's what Beck told Ethan Cadeaux of NBC Sports Washington. Below is an excerpt from the article. "With the amount of experience and success he’s had as a trainer, combined with his NFL background, would he ever want to be a coach? Beck says no for now but didn’t rule it out for the future. He still misses the day-to-day NFL grind -- the chess match between offense and defense, the game planning, the intrasquad scrimmages, and, especially, the locker room." - Ethan Cadeaux, on John Beck Beck has ties to not only Zach Wilson but also the LaFleur family. Once upon a time, Green Bay Packers head coach Matt LaFleur served as Beck’s quarterback coach in Washington on a staff that featured Kyle Shanahan, LaFleur, and tight ends coach Sean McVay. When Shanahan was in San Francisco, he sent his three quarterbacks, Jimmy Garoppolo, Nick Mullens, and C.J. Beathard, to work with Beck and 3DQB — a premiere QB training company that Beck helped create since his playing days ended. Beck also scripted his pro days with Wilson, Fields, and Lance using Shanahan's playbook. He not only has experience with Zach Wilson but he knows the type of system that the rookie QB is currently playing within. It might be a difficult sell to get Beck, a family man, to make the journey to the northeast to be Wilson's full-time QB coach. Perhaps this pairing on the Jets might be something to visit in the future. But for now, hopefully, Wilson's reconnection with Beck during this bye week helps get the rookie QB back on track. 9 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: I noticed pregame a guy with a Jets hat on I never saw before that looked a lot like John Beck. I took this blurry snippet of him from gamepass when the camera panned to the sideline. I wouldn't put it pass the Jets to hire him and not announce it like they did with Cavenaugh. wow that does look like him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Really nice catch man (IF) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnysd Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Would be interesting if that is Beck (sure looks like him) and he was in part responsible for the game plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 One reason it wouldn't be a good idea to hire him is, if they did Wilson couldn't work with Beck in the off season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Excellent spot, mentioned this a while back. Losing Gregg Knapp was clearly a blow to the whole organisation but especially the development of around QB. It may also be the reason LaFleur has chosen to stay on the sidelines rather than coach from the booth and we saw today a totally different offender when MLF moved upstairs…if having an experienced QB coach / mentor on the sidelines enables MLF to just focus on being the OC and calling the plays then this would make a ton of sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 How many coaches does Zach need? Mike White started his first game ever and Saleh and LaFleur didn’t even hesitate with the decision to put LaFleur up in the box to call the game. How many coaches need to hold Zach’s hand to get him though a game? 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Nicco Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Was Wilson on the sideline? Didn’t see him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, sec101row23 said: How many coaches does Zach need? Mike White started his first game ever and Saleh and LaFleur didn’t even hesitate with the decision to put LaFleur up in the box to call the game. How many coaches need to hold Zach’s hand to get him though a game? Mike White has had 8 since entering the league (not including personal coaches) Wilson has had 3 (I counted Knapp for both guys) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Pichula said: Was Wilson on the sideline? Didn’t see him Yea he was in a puffy black jacket, saw him pre game with Flacco and Saleh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: How many coaches does Zach need? Mike White started his first game ever and Saleh and LaFleur didn’t even hesitate with the decision to put LaFleur up in the box to call the game. How many coaches need to hold Zach’s hand to get him though a game? As many as it takes. I suspect if it is Beck, it's not to get him through the games but more to help him during the week. If ZW likes him as a coach and finds him helpful - then hire the guy to work with him during the week. Like ZW or not it's the Jets job to do whatever they can to make it work. The Jets are tied to ZW and If what they're doing now isn't working then try something else. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 It was @jetsrule128 Not sure how he snuck past security. Camouflage most likely. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wit Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 Countdown to a writer stealing this for a story in 10…. 6 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 See this is why Jets fans are the best... what other team's fans do this sh*t? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 If that is Beck, it a smart move by the Jets to let him be involved on gameday (likely as an observer) so he can focus in on what the Jets want Zach to do in their scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 The Jets need all the brain power they can get on the sidelines. This is a good move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 That's either Beck or his doppleganger. Waiting for the crack NY Jets beat reporters to get on this. *crickets* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 Yea there was a clear picture of him on TV right before the game started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzyJet Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 14 hours ago, Jetsbb said: I noticed pregame a guy with a Jets hat on I never saw before that looked a lot like John Beck. I took this blurry snippet of him from gamepass when the camera panned to the sideline. I wouldn't put it pass the Jets to hire him and not announce it like they did with Cavenaugh. the fact that in both of the pics of him in this thread he's near a QB, Flacco in the first, and White in the second is pretty compelling evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Certainly looks like him. With that said, I always wonder about the awe some folks hold "QB trainers" or "QB Media Talking Heads" who themselves were utterly trash QB's. Those who can't, teach? Career NFL statistics TD–INT: 3–7 Passing yards: 1,417 QB Rating: 67.6 Rushing Touchdowns: 3 I guess Luke Falk might have a second career as a "QB Guru" in his future too then.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 6 hours ago, FidelioJet said: The Jets are tied to ZW and If what they're doing now isn't working then try something else. They are not tied to him, and they better exercise that decision if White keeps it up and the Jets keep winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 14 hours ago, TokyoJetsFan said: Once upon a time, Green Bay Packers head coach Matt LaFleur served as Beck’s quarterback coach in Washington on a staff that featured Kyle Shanahan, LaFleur, and tight ends coach Sean McVay. Wow. What a staff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origen Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 52 minutes ago, Warfish said: Certainly looks like him. With that said, I always wonder about the awe some folks hold "QB trainers" or "QB Media Talking Heads" who themselves were utterly trash QB's. Those who can't, teach? Career NFL statistics TD–INT: 3–7 Passing yards: 1,417 QB Rating: 67.6 Rushing Touchdowns: 3 I guess Luke Falk might have a second career as a "QB Guru" in his future too then.... He was a BYU guy too I believe. Big in the WAC or whatever they played in then but never did it in the NFL for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 36 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: They are not tied to him, and they better exercise that decision if White keeps it up and the Jets keep winning. They are. I mean this sincerely, if you're really of the mind-set that Mike White is the savior, and will become the Jets future I would recommend withholding your excitement. It's certainly possibly, I sure hope he is.. But the likelihood of that is very minimal. Zach Wilson is still the short-term and long-term plan of the franchise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Origen said: He was a BYU guy too I believe. Big in the WAC or whatever they played in then but never did it in the NFL for sure. Beck never really had the natural talent. It's pretty impressive he even made it to the NFL. He did it all with smarts. Those guys usually make the best coaches. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 There is also a fat head life sized cardboard cut out of joe flacco next to him in that image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Quote A John Beck look alike was on the Jets sideline with a headset on. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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greenwichjetfan Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: They are. I mean this sincerely, if you're really of the mind-set that Mike White is the savior, and will become the Jets future I would recommend withholding your excitement. It's certainly possibly, I sure hope he is.. But the likelihood of that is very minimal. Zach Wilson is still the short-term and long-term plan of the franchise. Where is anyone making any statements about White being a savior or the future of this franchise? White has more good games in 1 career start in the NFL than Zach does in 6, with the same team and coaches (minus their best WR). That’s simply a statement of fact. No opinions there. With that context for you, I’ll state it again: the Jets better exercise their ability to move on from Zach if Mike keeps it up and the Jets keep winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: Where is anyone making any statements about White being a savior or the future of this franchise? White has more good games in 1 career start in the NFL than Zach does in 6, with the same team and coaches (minus their best WR). That’s simply a statement of fact. No opinions there. With that context for you, I’ll state it again: the Jets better exercise their ability to move on from Zach if Mike keeps it up and the Jets keep winning. And then what? Draft another QB in the first again next year? Then give him 5 games - and get rid of him if he doesn't look good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: Where is anyone making any statements about White being a savior or the future of this franchise? White has more good games in 1 career start in the NFL than Zach does in 6, with the same team and coaches (minus their best WR). That’s simply a statement of fact. No opinions there. With that context for you, I’ll state it again: the Jets better exercise their ability to move on from Zach if Mike keeps it up and the Jets keep winning. One could easily argue it is not the same team. The talk has been, time and time again that the team needed up to 8 weeks to understand the new scheme; of course it also depends on how the D plays and the offensive game plan. Maybe White runs the dump off offense better so that is why they changed it, or maybe LaPuke finally realized that when teams stack the box, it is best to throw all of the time until they pull back. It also may have to do with BB and the Pats secondary and pass rush weren't on the field yesterday. Either way, it is important for Zack to win back the spot and not be handed it. The team needs to believe and they clearly like Mike, so Mike has to get the chance. Personally, I have to wonder if Mike can be that guy, but while he is playing well, he has earned the right to start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 31 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: And then what? Draft another QB in the first again next year? Then give him 5 games - and get rid of him if he doesn't look good? I honestly don't understand what you're missing. I'll try two more times with different words, but then I'm out. If Mike White continues playing significantly better than Zach played in Zach's first 6 games and the Jets continue to win as a result, Mike should continue to be the Jets QB. Said differently: Zach Wilson should not be handed back the starting job when he's healthy if Mike White continues to play significantly better than Zach played in Zach's first 6 games in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 37 minutes ago, bostonmajet said: Either way, it is important for Zack to win back the spot and not be handed it. This is my only point, and on this, we agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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