freestater Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Integrity28 said: Beck on the sideline. LaFleur in the booth. Everyone gets the coddling they need. Whatever works. Back in my day, the last time I played football I had 7 broken ribs, a torn labia majora, and irritable bowel syndrome. Kids these days are wimpy. If it allows LaFleur to go up in the booth, I'm all for it. I'm all for anything that gets LaFleur farther away from our QBs, hell our whole offenses. I'd be in favor of moving him a little farther away still... like Hoboken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, freestater said: If it allows LaFleur to go up in the booth, I'm all for it. I'm all for anything that gets LaFleur farther away from our QBs, hell our whole offenses. I'd be in favor of moving him a little farther away still... like Hoboken He doesn't get any credit for our offensive explosion two days ago? It's still his plays and his offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, slimjasi said: He doesn't get any credit for our offensive explosion two days ago? It's still his plays and his offense. I'm just bustin balls, relax. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Jetlife33 said: I wonder if the Jets could sign Beck to a series of one year contacts. His contract expires Black Monday. He does his draft training thing including coaching Zach and Mike and then we hire him back for the season right before training camp starts. NFL might not love it but would seem to be a solid strategy. Maybe Beck is the reason White played so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, johnnysd said: I wonder if the Jets could sign Beck to a series of one year contacts. His contract expires Black Monday. He does his training camp training thing including coaching Zach and Mike and then we hire him back for the season right before training camp starts. NFL might not love it but would seem to be a solid strategy. Maybe Beck is the reason White played so well. If he were to just be signed to a short-term consulting contract, as opposed to a true staff hire, I highly doubt the NFL would really give a crap. With that said, I'm not sure how much the Jets would love that as a long-term plan for future years, considering there'd be nothing stopping Beck from opting to go to another team or deciding not come back at all, while they also wouldn't have him available throughout the offseason/camp/preseason even if he did return. In that case, they'd have to not count on him being there, and just bring him in as an extra hand down the line if it happens to work out. On the flip side, if he impresses enough the next few months, it could also become a matter of the Jets (or even other teams) making him a more convincing offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 hours ago, ryu79 said: It's a really interesting move but I guess raises a host of other questions. - Is he a Jet employee? - Is he exclusively working with Zach? - Does he report into Lafleur? - Does it imply he can't work with other clients during season? Can he work with Zach in off-season? Only two ways this can be happening IMO. 1) He's on Zach's dime, and a guest of the the NYJ's. Much in the way Brady's TB-12 trainer was 2) Perhaps he is carried as, not a coach, but a consultant of the Jets. Not sure how that would work under the CBA. If he is a coach ,under the CBA, he can't work with Zach in the off season. As an employee of Zach's he can. Either way expect the Pats to file a CBA violation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, freestater said: If it allows LaFleur to go up in the booth, I'm all for it. I'm all for anything that gets LaFleur farther away from our QBs, hell our whole offenses. I'd be in favor of moving him a little farther away still... like Hoboken An odd take after Sunday's explosion of offense and effective play-calling. Even if "just busting balls". Of course, now that a career bad QB now known as a "guru" was on the sidelines, we'll surely have a contingent who give all the credit to Beck so they can keep on hating LaFluer I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 On 11/1/2021 at 9:52 AM, Wit said: Countdown to a writer stealing this for a story in 10…. Ahem...uh, check out Rich Cimini's Twitter account this morning, and Connor Hughes' too while you're at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe W. Namath Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Doesnt John Beck have a business? I dont think he is the only guy that works with qbs. I mean, maybe he works with the big dogs like Zach. But I think he has a business where other employees are working with qbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 On 11/1/2021 at 1:04 AM, Jetsbb said: I noticed pregame a guy with a Jets hat on I never saw before that looked a lot like John Beck. I took this blurry snippet of him from gamepass when the camera panned to the sideline. I wouldn't put it pass the Jets to hire him and not announce it like they did with Cavenaugh. Twitter handle @Vernh727 (Sam) Nice call there! Jetsbb with the breaking news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Cimini owes you dinner bruh Beck, wearing a headset and Jets coaching garb, was spotted on the sideline during Sunday's 34-31 victory over the Cincinnati Bengals. Though his exact role is unclear -- the Jets haven't commented -- Beck will be on the sideline for every game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Gas, No Gase Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 This is awesome news! John Beck is well respected and has worked with many top NFL QBs. He will benefit the entire Jets QB room. And, completely free up LaFleur to call the game from the box whenever ZW does return to the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Jets just added Beck to the CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 This is a fantastic move. Losing Knapp was a tragedy, and we needed to help fill the void he left as a QB coach. Interesting to see a personal QB coach leave behind his business like this for just Wilson (he coaches Fields too). Maybe this is Beck's big swing as well because if he can help coach Wilson into something great, his reputation will skyrocket. However his really putting himself on the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billyg Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Announced on espn https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32533941/sources-new-york-jets-add-qb-zach-wilson-personal-coach-john-beck-coaching-staff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 4 hours ago, sec101row23 said: All in all, this can’t hurt. I remember having a discussion with @Chrebetfan80 back in February about there being differences in how some coaches teach an offense to a QB. Just like in college, you have good professors and bad professors, some teach you, some just throw info at you. Some guys are great coordinators on game day, great with the X’s and O’s but can’t necessarily teach a young QB the system. QB’s, just like students in a class, learn differently. It’s about trying to find out how the QB learns best. I think the Jets are definitely going through this with Zach and it’s why they resorted to bringing in Beck. Hopefully Zach responds to him better. Excellent post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chrebetfan80 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 6 hours ago, sec101row23 said: All in all, this can’t hurt. I remember having a discussion with @Chrebetfan80 back in February about there being differences in how some coaches teach an offense to a QB. Just like in college, you have good professors and bad professors, some teach you, some just throw info at you. Some guys are great coordinators on game day, great with the X’s and O’s but can’t necessarily teach a young QB the system. QB’s, just like students in a class, learn differently. It’s about trying to find out how the QB learns best. I think the Jets are definitely going through this with Zach and it’s why they resorted to bringing in Beck. Hopefully Zach responds to him better. Bringing in beck is a great move. AT the very least its someone he knows, and who knows him. You cant say the jets arent trying to support zach. Flacco, Johnson as vet QBs now. Cavanaugh, Calabrese, and now Beck. He literally has all the support he could ask for (aside from a stellar offensive line and skill players which is all a work in progress) to reach his potential. Now I can understand where some may say "are there too many cooks in the kitchen?" Thats on Saleh and the rest of the offensive staff to help come together and make sure that everyone understands their role on the team. Beck can really help with Zachs mechanics, and its great for calabrese to learn what Beck has been working with Zach on during their private sessions. Others here mentioned too that Beck has a lot of experience in Shanahans system, which i think can also help to bounce ideas off of. Beck can also give the staff insight on what he sees Zach really comfortable with, considering they have worked together for a while now. I just dont see a downside with the move unless the staff cant figure out how to manage all of the people in the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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