chirorob Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Anthony Jet said: What would the comp pick be if he stays then walks? We won't get one, as we'll sign more than we lose. With all the picks they have in 2022 draft, I'd take a 3rd in 2023. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, peekskill68 said: I know, "professional athlete". But once these guys check out mentally, it's better to just take what you can and move on. IMO Maye has been broken by all the losing. Not sure he ever comes back to a level that justifies the money he's looking for... That's different if that is the case. I just think if you want to change a culture, you can't keep trading away players who can help you at the deadline for whatever you can get. Even if they are leaving at the end of the year, and you may only win 6 games or so, I think it's worth it. Don't break more players with all the losing if that is the case with Maye. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Ken Schroy said: I am in favor of moving him. He is NOT a difference maker, it showed again yesterday. And clearly the Saleh/SF system can have success with minimal investment in the secondary. Re-signing Maye is not an option. Deal him now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 hours ago, FidelioJet said: Take a 3rd if you can get it, otherwise keep him to help this team down the stretch. 3 hours ago, ScarletKnight89 said: Do we have to trade away everyone who has any value for mid round picks again? Why not keep the players, and, ya know, try to win some football games? But how much help is he really giving us? And is what he brings to the table worth a 4th round pick? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Joe D is in a good spot becasue he doesnt have to trade anyone. Unless he gets blown away with an offer, I dont see him making a deal at the deadline. If teams want our players, they are going to have to pay up. And I just dont see any team giving a 3rd round pick for maye. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Joe D is in a good spot becasue he doesnt have to trade anyone. Unless he gets blown away with an offer, I dont see him making a deal at the deadline. If teams want our players, they are going to have to pay up. And I just dont see any team giving a 3rd round pick for maye. Just trade Flacco... for a bag of peanuts... just get him out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Pac said: Send him to the Bucs for a 2nd if you must. I dont see the point of trading our 3rd best player on D but JD gonna JD. Yeah, JD really got shown up the last time he traded away a Safety who was about to get a new contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: But how much help is he really giving us? And is what he brings to the table worth a 4th round pick? Contrary to most people's opinion around here - He's still a very good player. And contrary to yesterdays game - the Jets aren't a particularly talented team. It's important to have good players, of which the Jets have few. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Contrary to most people's opinion around here - He's still a very good player. And contrary to yesterdays game - the Jets aren't a particularly talented team. It's important to have good players, of which the Jets have few. But, like, how is he contributing to wins, really? Can you quantify/qualify it? He's deflected 2 Passes, gotten 1 Sack, 0 INTs, 0 FFs, just 4 TFLs and 1 QB Hit so far this season. And if he's been good in ways that haven't shown up on the stat sheet, he hasn't really shown it in this system yet. And its a contract year for him, so he has extra motivation to look good out there. Think of it this way: If Marcus Maye were on another team, with his expiring contract, would you trade a 4th round pick by this Tuesday to acquire him? If he's really such a good and impactful player it would be an easy "yes", but my guess is you really wouldn't advocate doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: But, like, how is he contributing to wins, really? Can you quantify/qualify it? Think of it this way: If Marcus Maye were on another team, with his expiring contract, would you trade a 4th round pick by this Tuesday to acquire him? If I felt like we were contenders and missing a safety to help solidify my defense surely I would give up a 4th round pick for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, FidelioJet said: If I felt like we were contenders and missing a safety to help solidify my defense surely I would give up a 4th round pick for him. But we likely aren't a contender and definitely aren't a Safety away even if we were. And meanwhile, other secondary players on this team have outshined Maye so far, even in a year where we all expected the secondary to be a huge weakness. So why not let some other team who thinks they're a Safety a way hand us a 4th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Lol another epic whiff by shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Larz said: Lol another epic whiff by shame Marcus Maye being traded for a 3rd or 4th round pick 4 years after being drafted with a high 2 is a "L" for @T0mShane? Wonder why you didn't tag him here. You've got some gall having that take with how long you've defended Jamal Adams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticalJet2 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 hours ago, ScarletKnight89 said: Do we have to trade away everyone who has any value for mid round picks again? Why not keep the players, and, ya know, try to win some football games? Because Joe didn’t draft or sign him or trade for him. Simple as that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 I say we tag him then trade his ass after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I like the idea of 2 #1's, 2 #2's and 2 #3's in this draft. Plus SAR will be upset if Maye gets traded. Win/win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Embrace the Suck said: Yeah, so was JA. Not to say they'll get a haul anywhere near that level, but still.... JA was on his way out too. In fact he was shooting his way out. JD got a 4th for that bum at TE recently. And JD used a 4th for a guy like RB Michael Carter. I've always liked Maye but he doesn't have a future here. If the Jets couldn't come to an agreement with him in the offseason they're certainly not coming to one with him after the season. Get what you can for him. The Jets seem to be finding value, particularly on D in this past Draft in those mid/late rounds. I wouldn't mind taking a swing at either another Safety, a depth CB or an OG with a 4th if that's what they get for Maye. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green hat Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 If Joyner wasn't out for the year I'd say trade him, but we are really light at the position. Davis looks like a backup imo. I don't think we have any up and coming players ready to step in/train up. Just let him play and see if he'll lower his asking price and return next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Maye is very good. Not a difference maker but really good. He did a lot of good stuff yesterday. Wish he would stay for reasonable money. His loss will be felt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 16 minutes ago, Larz said: Lol another epic whiff by shame What’s the whiff here exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, David Harris said: Maye is very good. Not a difference maker but really good. He did a lot of good stuff yesterday. Wish he would stay for reasonable money. His loss will be felt. Sorry I disagree. I don’t think he’s very good. More like a decent player, and very replaceable. It’s a no brainer if you can get a 3rd for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 I doubt if he gets traded for less than a 3. After a big win the team might be less inclined to dump guys who may be popular and put a damper on the win. If we got hammered yesterday I could see more than one trade but after winning and a feel good win maybe no deals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Highly unlikely he fetches a 3rd. About to get paid and not an impact player. I'd take a 4th and a 5th and not look back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rox Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 If we're offered a 3rd for him - grab it and run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 hours ago, doitny said: not a good idea.. How many times can a team franchise tag a player in the NFL? Players can be tagged in consecutive years, but the team must pay the player more each year he is tagged. (Kirk Cousins can tell you all about it.) For a player to be franchise tagged two straight years, the team must pay 120 percent of the player's previous salary. If it's three straight years, the team would need to pay the player 144 percent of his previous salary. From the CBA: Any club that designates a player as a franchise player for the third time shall, on the date the third such designation is made, be deemed to have tendered the player a one-year NFL player contract for the greater of ... — (A) the average of the five largest prior year salaries for players at the position with the highest such average — (B) 120 percent of the average of the five largest prior year salaries for players at the position at which the player participated in the most plays during the prior league year — or (C) 144 percent of his prior year salary. Tag would be about $12m in 2022, I don't want to go that route but honestly it's less than he's asking for anyway. Get what you can for him now and move on. Edit* also this info is out of date, they changed the rules of Franchise tagged players. It's the average of the top 5 at your position over the course of the last 5 or 10 years. That's the reason the tag was so cheap this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juxsta Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 For the keep Maye people,do we just forget about this little gem? I still say no agent is tweeting out this garbage without his client giving it a green light. Maye can go... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Did you guys miss ashtyn Davis give up tons of yards yesterday? And you want to trade away maye, the only repectable safety we have left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Sammybighead said: Did you guys miss ashtyn Davis give up tons of yards yesterday? And you want to trade away maye, the only repectable safety we have left? Maye doesn't want to be here, he made that known by telling his agent to tweet out he'll be healthy by the deadline. Ashtyn Davis is not the answer but neither is Maye. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Sammybighead said: Did you guys miss ashtyn Davis give up tons of yards yesterday? And you want to trade away maye, the only repectable safety we have left? Safeties don't matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 22 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: But how much help is he really giving us? And is what he brings to the table worth a 4th round pick? I think it depends. He hasn't had the greatest year but he's been a reliable player even though he is just a safety, and is easily replaceable. I'm just personally tired of giving up players for mid round draft picks. It might be the right move. I'd rather see a player for player deal though even though they don't happen as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 22 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: And clearly the Saleh/SF system can have success with minimal investment in the secondary. Re-signing Maye is not an option. Deal him now. Exactly. This is more than what Maye brings to the table. It’s about money as well. JD is not going to budge and pay a safety double digits. See Adams. See Adams go bye bye. See Maye. See Maye go bye bye. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 21 hours ago, bla bla bla said: Maye doesn't want to be here, he made that known by telling his agent to tweet out he'll be healthy by the deadline. Ashtyn Davis is not the answer but neither is Maye. BOOM ? There are about 5 really good prospects in next years draft. Wouldn’t be shocked to see JD grab one in round 2 or 3 if he can move Maye or doesn’t tag him next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Wooty Doo Doo Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 21 hours ago, bla bla bla said: Maye doesn't want to be here, he made that known by telling his agent to tweet out he'll be healthy by the deadline. Ashtyn Davis is not the answer but neither is Maye. Oh , so HE told his agent to make that tweet ,,, dayummm i didnt know that !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Scotty Wooty Doo Doo said: Oh , so HE told his agent to make that tweet ,,, dayummm i didnt know that !! Either that or his agent is firing from the hip. I'd have to imagine Maye gave the approval before he hit send. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Well, that ship has sailed. Thanks, JD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.